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<0> I agree with dyst
<1> changed out the version of NDISWrapper I was using, seems to be working now
<2> how could i in the simpliest way install firewall on gentoo
<3> if somebody is going to effort to hide their actions, they can't be trusted with a user account
<4> is there a "standard" way of switching to xorg 7.1 from 6.8? I'm just wondering if it's doable from X?
<4> without emerge -C 'ing xorg-x11-6.8.2
<5> ? modular xorg howto
<6> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml
<1> and we have our first tropical storm of the year today, tropical storm Alberto
<4> awesome
<5> the_hoser: see that guide jeeves jsut spat out
<4> AllenJB: thx
<7> man, i just noticed this channel has more modes set than any i've ever been in
<8> the_hoser: not without emerge -C'ing, but you can upgrade while still in X
<8> as long as you don't try to start new programs
<4> hydrogen: yeah, well, it's being blocked by 6.8 :-/



<8> right
<4> but quickpkg might work...
<8> you have to emerge -C it
<8> thats what I siad
<4> ah... well... i dont think it's a great idea to keep running X while it's not there... i'll just quickpkg it :-D
<8> after quickpkging you still need to emerge -C
<9> Whats a good prog for testing stdin other than dd?
<3> TomM1: echo? cat?
<9> dystopianray: neither read stdin
<3> oh you mean reading
<3> grep
<8> patch
<10> It seems like the newest doomsday beta needs libaa.la but the ebuild does not require it
<3> prboom > doomsday
<4> hydrogen: yes, but quickpkg means less potential downtime
<8> only if the upgrade fails
<4> hydrogen: exactly ;)
<0> hydrogen: Where is the use.defaults file located (it'll help me speed up my corrections)
<8> NightShadow: /usr/portage/profiles
<8> combination of base/use.defaults and default-linux/use.defaults
<0> thanks
<11> hmmm curious... i just merged gcc .. and im trying to use eselect as per the instructions on the gcc upgrade guide and the msg from the emerge... and i keep getting a msg telling me invalid profile...
<11> im using i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1 ... which is from /etc/make.conf
<0> hydrogen: What would a useflag in yellow followed by a % mean?
<3> NightShadow: it means taht use flag has only just been added since you last emerged that package
<11> any help would be appreciated
<0> dystopianray: Thank you
<12> patientfox, what does 'readlink /etc/make.profile' report?
<11> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0
<0> Thak you, it's all well now
<8> whats the exact error patientfox
<11> jeff@vaio /usr/portage/dev-libs/openssl/files $ sudo eselect compiler set i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1
<11> !!! Error: Invalid profile: i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1
<11> exiting.
<8> do eselect compiler list
<11> do i select by # ?
<11> yeah that worked
<11> thanks... i guess following the instructions from the web, using gcc-config werent any good in my case
<10> Now doomsday wants libcaca, but does not say anything about wanting it.
<13> when I try to emerge xemacs-gtk I get the error: checking for dbm_open in -lgdbm... no Error: Required GNU DBM support cannot be provided
<13> anyone know a fix? I have gdbm installed
<10> The ebuild does not require it, the configure does not require it, but the compile stops if it is not present
<14> For large files, how do you get to the end of a file in nano instead of pressing pagedown a bunch of times?
<15> hi
<8> _mabus: use vim of course :)
<15> is it possible to compile the sata controller build into kernel?
<3> vinboy: yes and you'll need it to be part of the kernel to boot (or at least in an initrd thing)
<14> hydrogen: but I'm used to nano..
<3> _mabus: nano is rubbish
<16> nano is a toy
<8> i think nano +linenumber file works
<8> yea
<15> dystopianray, it could be why im getting kernel panic.. but i can't compile the sata controller into kernel
<17> _mabus: nano isn't a real editor. :-)
<18> ouch troll heh
<8> so you could open file, META_C to get total lines in file, close file, do nano +line file
<3> vinboy: make menuconfig, press 'y' at that particular option and then compile, put in /boot etc..
<15> dystopianray, it won't allow me to compile it buildin to kernel
<14> How is it rubbish/toy/not real?
<12> vinboy, it's under scsi lowlevel drivers
<3> vinboy: why not?



<8> it seems that way after using vim due to the lack of features
<17> _mabus: It lacks most of the features "better" editors have -- like scrolling to the bottom of a file, for example :-)
<12> vinboy, did you find it yet in menuconfig?
<17> Buffers, paste, recording, search/replace, macros, regular expressions...
<15> yes under pci ide chipset support
<19> Umm my computer tims horribley off. How do i change it to what its soposed to be
<16> _mabus: consider a lawn mower. Adults use them. They make little plastic ones for kids to push around. The plastic ones look like a real lawn more. They might even blow bubbles. But it's not quite as useful as the real thing.
<16> nano is the plastic lawn mower of editors
<3> phoul: use ntp
<19> ntp?
<20> network time protocol
<3> phoul: it'll sync your computer time against a pool of time servers on the internet
<19> dystopianray, how do i use it
<21> I love nano - but I like the analogy. It kind of applies to windows.
<17> Lol
<17> Garibaldi: NICE metaphor :-D
<3> phoul: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NTP this may help
<21> Windows is the plastic bubble blowing (among other things) lawnmower of OS
<16> Awesome-o2000: When all you knew was windows, you probably loved that too. If you knew another editor, you'd see that nano isn't so great.
<17> But it's the one with splinters in the handle.
<22> Awesome-o2000: topic please
<21> Garibaldi, probably
<21> !topic
<20> hello, i was following www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml. when i did "modprobe nvidia", i got this: "FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (...): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter. and dmesg shows: "nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel." there are a few more lines of output, i can paste to pastebin if necessary
<23> how can i downgrade from xorg 7.1 to 6.8.2-r7? i'm running testing (ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86") and somehow my X freezes a lot (like every few minutes..) the last two days.
<17> unity: Sounds like nVIDIA hasn't been compiled for the current kernel.
<12> unity, do that. dmesg --> rafb.net/paste
<23> do i have to mask every single package?
<17> sirpreis: Yes. :-)
<3> unity: are you booted into the same kernel that /usr/src/linux points to?
<23> Twey_: damnit!
<23> :)
<19> dystopianray, umm okay... In gnome if i set it to local its right. Is there any way to like set global "local" time?
<21> Twey_, or he doesnt have a proper /usr/src/linux symlink
<23> has anyone in here done that? maybe i can get his/her package.mask :D
<3> phoul: /etc/conf.d/clock
<12> sirpreis, what drivers are you using?
<23> roger55: radeon
<12> sirpreis, the open source ones?
<20> roger55: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RKSd2l39.html
<23> roger55: VIDEO_CARDS="radeon", so i think i'm using the opensource once. the ati-drivers don't even work with xorg 7.1, do they?
<19> dystopianray, do i have to reboot for it to take effect?
<12> sirpreis, no.
<19> Because is i type "date" i still get utc
<20> dystopianray: "linux -> linux-2.6.16-gentoo-r9" and uname -r gives "2.6.16-gentoo-r9"
<3> phoul: well at least restart that particular service i'd imagine
<12> sirpreis, have you tried 7.0 before 7.1?
<23> roger55: but i was using 7.1 quite some time (a few weeks). right now i have NO idea why it freezes..
<16> unity: have you re-emerged nvidia-kernel since you upgraded the kernel?
<23> roger55: no
<23> roger55: i upgraded right to 7.1, that worked without problems for some time now.
<20> Garibaldi: the first time i emerged nvidia-kernel was after i last compiled the kernel
<12> sirpreis, then it might be something else that freezes ?
<16> unity: hum, ok
<20> Garibaldi: i should re-emerge again, just to be safe?
<12> unity, what version of nvidia-kernel are you using?
<16> unity: listen to roger55
<23> roger55: might be something else.. what would you do about it? it may even be hardware.. but without X everything is just fine (i think)
<12> sirpreis, anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log / dmesg ?
<20> roger55: nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r5
<23> roger55: i looked through them, could not find anything
<12> unity, not sure, maybe you need a higher version for your card.
<20> roger55: nVidia Corporation NV20 [GeForce3]. where can i verify that it is the correct version of nvidia-kernel?
<23> roger55: any more ideas, what could be done about that? really anoying, cause i have to use windows now ;-)
<12> unity,oh a geforce3
<21> unity, you should be fine - i'd even reccomend the ~x86 version
<21> recommend
<24> anyone here using init-ng?
<12> sirpreis, did you change the kernel since it worked?
<23> roger55: i did, but i tried a different kernel as well, that did not change anything
<12> Awesome-o2000, did they deprecate geforce3 or just geforce2?
<10> I think linuxers and gentooers are ****ers for having to learn everything, and fight for the ability to accomplish things. Whereas Macintosh users are there to have work done.
<23> roger55: i'm using suspend2-sources, i might try the "plain" gentoo-sources..
<10> This I gathered from your nano vs. vim comments earlier


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