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<0> TFKyle: it doesnt crash, it freeeeezes
<0> TFKyle: can't close
<1> nostrum: if you had another computer you could ssh in and kill X :)
<1> nostrum: what version of xorg?
<0> TFKyle: thats a good point with ssh ill give it a try next time :)
<2> or just switch to another virtual terminal, X crashing generally won't prevent that
<0> TFKyle: 6.8
<0> TFKyle: someone reccomended to upgrade xorg
<0> TFKyle: but I have x86, !~x86...
<1> nostrum: 6.8 and evdev? 6.8 didn't even HAVE evdev
<1> nostrum: use 7.0, atleast
<0> TFKyle: oh?
<3> can anyone help me get dri running. i got the ati driver running, and went through the walkthroughs
<0> TFKyle: well it supposedly works, but I had to use Driver "mouse" and Option Protocol "evdev"
<0> instead of just Driver "evdev"
<1> nostrum: evdev was only added to xorg in the 6.9/7.0 release cycle, before that all there was was an unofficial module
<0> TFKyle: okok so then I should definately switch to 6.9 at least
<0> but its ~86
<0> and last time i tried to get help upgrading people couldnt explain or find the right url
<1> nostrum: just incase you don't know 6.9 and 7.0 are essentially the same thing, just 7.0 is modular where 6.9 is still monolithic
<0> so what is the easiest way to fix this...
<0> TFKyle: How should i go about upgrading if now I am plain x86
<0> I don't think i wanna ACCEPT KEYWORDS...
<0> but do you know how to do the upgrade correctly?
<0> whats the easiest, fastest way
<0> wihtout ACCEPT~x86
<1> nostrum: read http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml and http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg (some parts of that might be a bit outdated), I think that should
<1> *I think that should be enough info
<0> TFKyle: so what is the deal with modular though why is there a switch in your opinion?
<1> nostrum: what?
<4> what would you guys suggest for a extremely light no frills WM
<1> nick125_lappy: ratpoison! :)
<1> nick125_lappy: ion3 is nice (though not exactly no-frills)
<2> nick125_lappy pekwm or enlightenment, fluxbox too
<1> thehailo: e is lightweight?
<5> nick125_lappy: xfce
<2> TFKyle 90MB of ram usage at boot
<1> bloggsie: that doesn't sound that light either :)
<4> I need something I can use on a extremely small livecd..
<1> nick125_lappy: openbox is nice (though I guess not the smallest thing either)
<4> because, the livecd is gonna load into RAM so the user can remove the cd
<5> TFKyle: certainly much lighter than KDE or GNOME, but heaveier than ratpoison I agree
<1> bloggsie: actually, metacity isn't very heavy at all, imo
<4> it doesn't really matter about looks either, since its gonna run a fullscreen app
<1> (metacity is gnome's wm)
<5> nick125_lappy: if its a full screen app. do you actually need a desk at all?
<4> this probably won't even be gentoo by the time i'm done with it though..lol
<1> nick125_lappy: bloggsie makes a good point (though wrongly stated), if your app is fullscreen do you even need a window manager?
<6> rhetorical question, I ***ume
<1> you can run an X server without a WM, after all
<7> Gotta go
<7> night guys
<4> that would probably work..
<4> though, the pygtk dependancy with this app probably won't help sizewise..heh :P
<0> TFKyle: man modular X is a pain in the nervous system
<8> guess I will do it the painfull way
<1> nostrum: its never been a pain for me
<5> Your app. will run faster if it hasn't got to plough through layers of WM routines.
<0> TFKyle: thats too much trouble to get my mouse from crashing
<0> TFKyle: I should just use an older mouse
<4> bloggsie: probably..
<0> TFKyle: portage needs to make an ebuild that automatically sets up modular X
<1> (well, except when I was first starting with it before 7.0 was released and gentoo was still figureing out what to do)
<0> TFKyle: but evdev is in 6.9 right?
<0> TFKyle: 6.9 is modular or not?
<1> nostrum: I think so, though I've never used 6.9
<1> nostrum: 6.9 is monolithic
<9> does any one know what tar does when you reach EOT ?
<10> How can I integrate my gmail [pop/smtp] account into maildir? [To stop 5 apps from checking the account, getting it temporarily disabled, to be more UNIXy and to keep things tightly integrated]
<0> TFKyle: so maybe I should just add 6.9 to package.keywords
<5> nick125_lappy: you just put your app in the /etc/X11/Sessions/ directory and it will start.
<0> you think thats ok? is that all I need?
<1> nostrum: 6.9 is also masked, so you'll have to package.unmask it too
<0> arg
<0> arrrrrrrg
<0> a pirates life for me :)
<10> heh
<0> too many masks
<1> cook, tea?
<11> I don't suppose anyone could tell me if there's a way to tap into Kuroo's log from the command line?
<9> um isnt the normal portage log there?
<11> /var/log/emerge.log ?
<11> squigly, ?
<10> How can I integrate my gmail [pop/smtp] account into maildir? [To stop 5 apps from checking the account, getting it temporarily disabled, to be more UNIXy and to keep things tightly integrated]
<9> TomM1, ask google?
<12> hi, i forgot to emerge dhcp when installing, now I have to set up the static IP to install dhcp to get online, config_eth0=( "192.168.0.7 netmask 255.255.255.0" )
<12> routes_eth0=( "default gw 192.168.0.1" )
<12> i'm still not online
<13> route add default gw ....
<14> also nameserver
<12> stanke, see the routers_eth0 that i added
<12> imatrix, nameserver 192.168.0.1, right?
<12> if the router ip is that
<13> try to be more specific, what does it mean i'm still not online
<15> How do I specify a MAC address for a network interface to use instead of the manufacture ***igned one?
<9> ifconfig hw
<12> stanke, the computer that i'm installing gentoo is not online
<9> Zepp, ifconfig hw
<14> i usually just crete a a file to let it run during startu
<13> what that mean is not online. can you ping something via ip adress? or ?
<12> stanke, no stan,
<12> stanke, i can' even ping the router
<15> squigly, I know how to do it manually but how do i have it do it everytime it brings up the interface?
<15> I ***ume I have to make a change to /etc/conf.d/net
<9> um, you just have to run that command,
<13> Eureka: is the interface up?
<9> make an init script
<12> here is the conf.d/net: nameserver 192.168.1.1, config_eth0=("192.168.1.103 netmask 255.255.255.0"), routes_eth0=...
<12> stanke, it's up
<14> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.7 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
<12> stanke , i was just installing gentoo and downloaded a few things online
<9> Zepp, its such an uncommon thing i doubt there is a gentoo helper script
<9> Zepp, you should get a better isp, who doesnt care about such things
<13> Eureka: you wrote config_eth0=( "192.168.0.7 netmask 255.255.255.0" )
<12> stanke, that was the example
<12> it's the same
<15> squigly, its my university's residence network :/
<13> Eureka: try to make it so like imatrix wrote
<12> it should not be that tough to set a static ip on gentoo
<12> i though a few lines in conf.d/net will do it, what is going on?
<16> Eureka: all that's in my /etc/conf.d/net is config_eth0=( "192.168.0.253/24" ) // routes_eth0=( "default via 192.168.0.13" )
<12> the guide from gentoo doc only has two lines, one is the config, the other one is routes,
<9> Zepp, if you look at the fourth line of /etc/conf.d/net you should be able to figure out how to do what you want
<9> 6th line actualy!
<12> Triffid_Hunter, my is my /etc/conf.d/net is config_eth0=( "192.168.1.103/24" ) // routes_eth0=( "default via 192.168.1.1" )
<13> and what about modules=( "iproute2" ) or ( "ifconfig" )?
<12> didn't work
<12> what's going on?
<12> i just forgot the dhcp emerge, that's it,
<12> i need to get it online, and then change it back to dhcp auto
<17> Eureka, do you remeber the previous IP received from DHCP?
<18> hi guys
<12> yes
<12> 192.168.1.103
<18> i have a problem to mount a directory by nfs
<12> should i set a different ip because of ip confict possibly
<19> does anyone know if there is an ebuild for this app: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=39052 ?
<12> i set a diff IP , no luck
<17> should set exactly as received from dhcp
<12> tried that already
<17> if it didn't work, try boot from installation CD
<10> I am so confused. When you login, and it says you have 2 mails. Where are they? Maildir? spool?
<20> i have emerge xmms and gnome and alsa and other things but now when i play songs in xmms it's say no out put device
<10> is it the same?
<20> i am using gentoo in vmware
<17> after that, mount hdd as in installation guide, and chroot
<12> m3l3m01t, is it that hard to set a static IP,
<17> nope
<12> i'm not a linux guru, but i know this should not be that tough
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