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<0> hehheh
<1> viper: I don't think it needs to be
<2> only root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel floppy dialout tape video
<1> since it's well, root
<3> I have two linux boxes; is it possible to get one to log into the other (X and all), and use it?
<4> does anybody know how to inform my system of a file's location?
<3> I looked at LTSP, but that looks like it's for big thinclient networks, rather than simple, like, remote desktop
<5> kakalto: yeah google an ssh X forwarding howto, or if that's not what you had in mind, vnc
<6> accius: that question doesn't make sense
<1> accius: hit your box and say "THE FILE IS <insert location here> DAMNIT!"
<2> Jin: there appears not to be an 'audio' group
<4> eean: env-update complains about libstdc++ missing, but it's not missing
<6> yike
<1> viper: that's weird, it might be sound
<0> and, triplah, I already made the switch away from fam to gamin. There doesn't appear to be much other relavent information in that link
<7> accius: its probably looking for an older soname than what you have...
<4> problem is, I switched to the 4.1.1 gcc, but now I need to switch back because I needed to emerge stdlibc++ first
<8> Dhraakellian: if you can have the fam flag set without having famd running then i guess all is good
<4> TFKyle: nope, I have the exact same file - I just need to do an env-update, with env-update knowing the right place to look
<2> Jin: usermod -G audio viper just produces no effect, but no error, either
<3> Triffid_Hunter: thanks.
<4> instead of looking for it in gcc 4.1.1's directories, because it isn't there
<8> viper: unix is quiet.
<2> Jin: sound is not a group, however
<2> triplah: no effect.
<4> it's in an older gcc directory
<8> ah :)
<2> triplah: ie groups viper didnt change
<4> just need a quick hack so I can env-update successfully
<9> [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2)
<10> ScytheBlade1: /topic ffs
<7> accius: so its looking for libstdc++.so.X (where X is the version), and you have libstdc++.so.X in a path in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
<2> ok, scratch that
<8> viper: dont use usermod. use gp***wd
<11> so... reiserfs or reiser4 ?
<9> blackace, sorry, I've been in here for DAYS on end... I don't commonly see topic changes, and I didn't just come in
<2> apparently i can only be in _either_ audio or video
<12> outpour: ext3
<13> mmm... what chost for crosscompiling would a l4 kernel need? =P
<10> ScytheBlade1: well check before asking things then :)
<4> well probably not in LD_LIBRARY_PATH (dunno what that is) but it's in my gcc 3.3.6 directory
<9> blackace, so I'm a little slow latley. ;)
<7> outpour: reiserfs, as reiser4 isn't in vanilla yet
<0> and what does -acl do?
<11> Garibaldi: why ext3?
<12> Dhraakellian: disable access control lists
<4> what's LD_LIBRARY_PATH? and how can I check its value?
<14> why not?
<8> viper: gp***wd -a
<15> is there any phplist people around? is there a way to setup a list within phplist and then if i want to mail all the people on a certain list i could just send an email to phplist@mydomain.com and it will forward them the email or is that just a mailman thingy?
<0> Garibaldi: how (un)important is that?
<8> viper: make sure you fix your groups before you log out too :P
<2> triplah: nod, it added
<8> dont want to lock yourself out
<8> :)
<10> tam: this has what to do with gentoo, exactly?
<2> triplah: what do you mean by that?
<7> accius: try this, LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/path/to/file/that/the/lib/is/in" env-update
<2> oh, i unwheeled myself!
<12> Dhraakellian: it's important if you use it
<12> otherwise, not so much so
<0> "-acl*" is showing up for a few of the packages to be upgraded
<16> http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/470 <-- My friend's VLC is giving him this error when he tries to play video, what's wrong with his system?
<15> blackace: its being ran on it.
<7> s/file/dir/
<2> usermod does something weird
<3> with X ssh forwarding, how exactly does that work? I run something on the local machine (without X), and it sends it to the other machine?
<1> viper: lol
<3> Whereas VNC is just like remote desktop?
<0> Garibaldi: so, if I don't know of any particular need for it, then I don't need it?
<4> ok TFKyle but is there any way to check the current LD_LIBRARY_PATH value?
<8> viper: using usermod and accidentally locking yourself out of you system happens quite often. the changes dont take effect until you next log in of course. some people get quite a shock :P
<12> Dhraakellian: acl's let you define additional filesystem permissions that traditional permissions allow
<11> sorry
<7> accius: echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it shouldn't be anything normally
<11> Garibaldi: why do you think i should use ext3 over reiserfs?
<2> triplah: rofl..... ok, any other group I should be part of? wheel audio video users
<7> (since on gentoo that is stored in /etc/ld.so.cache mainly, I think
<4> oh ok
<8> viper: usb cdrom floppy ?
<0> Garibaldi: so would you say that it's a good thing to have around or just extra compile time?
<2> good call =P
<9> blackace, just the same, thanks
<4> well it's doing somethin'
<7> s/cache/conf/
<1> viper: games? :P
<16> Anyone got anything?
<8> hehe
<4> AHA
<12> outpour: well, if you want your data (and you ever have power outages), I'd not use reiserfs
<4> it's regenerating the cache!
<16> For the VLC thing I've been pasting every now and then?
<12> outpour: some people *love* reiserfs
<17> kakalto: ssh x forwarding is essentially running an x program from a remote machine and it's display shows up on the machine with the x server, but the program is tunneled through SSH instead of in the open
<2> so it'll recognize my flash drive now?
<12> outpour: my experience has been less great
<2> (on next login)
<8> kakalto: the Xserver runs on the remote machine. but the Xclient (the program) runs on the machine you are xforwarding from
<16> Garibaldi, my reiserfs has survived sparks coming out of my computer
<4> sweet, it *worked*
<1> viper: yeah, it should
<12> outpour: see
<7> Garibaldi: I havn't had any problems with reiserfs yet
<2> Jin: but if i wasnt part of group 'usb' it wouldnt?
<4> EMERGE IS FIXED
<4> FANTASTIQUE! thanks!!
<18> uh
<7> (been using it on my / for a bit more than 1 and a half years)
<2> er...'fixed' ?
<18> i hope i could say the same thing converning my video card
<12> Dhraakellian: you might not even have support built into the kernel
<4> yeah viper, I couldn't emerge for a while there
<0> Garibaldi: ah
<1> viper: yeah, it'd deny you access AFAIK
<4> or env-update, or lots of other stuff
<2> oh, that mustve ****ed
<0> Heh... kernel configuration isn't quite black magic to me, but it's close
<4> (my system didn't know where libstdc++ was)
<16> Should I just make another Bug report for something that works fine everywhere else in the entire world but one system since nobody says anything about it?
<4> yeah it ****ed :P
<7> (though I've only had one power outage that has hurt this computer really, its normally on a UPS)
<4> now to install gcc 4.1.1 PROPERLY
<12> TFKyle: w/o power outages, I've never had any problem with reiserfs
<4> lol jin
<1> brb
<16> http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/470 <-- My friend's VLC is giving him this error when he tries to play video, what's wrong with his system?
<8> viper make sure you have usb support in your kernel and the usb m*** storage driver
<19> accius: note that qemu wont build with gcc-4.1.1
<4> what's qemu?
<8> accius: emulation software
<2> i believe i have usb support in kernel... the driver, not sure
<19> an x86 emulator
<4> oh that's cool, I've never needed emulation stuff
<2> a quick logout/in should be a good test, no?
<2> my groups: wheel audio cdrom video usb games users
<8> viper: check this
<1> viper: si
<2> is that all that's needed?
<8> CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=m
<8> or
<8> m or y
<2> sry, is that in make.conf somewhere?
<1> fi it was m wouldn't he also need to check his modules.autoload.d?
<8> cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep -i storage
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