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<0> so, what do the -useflag% things mean?
<1> um
<2> TFKyle well it's a subsystem of the larger eselect system, i'd imagine. and it's pretty well documented on bugzilla that it's the cause
<1> see that's a problem
<3> Dhraakellian: the % means that the flag has been added since the last time you merged the package
<1> when I try to do env-update, it gives the same error about stdlibc++ as trying to use emerge
<0> TFKyle: okay
<1> exactly the same in fact
<1> any other way to update my environment? :-\
<4> Is there any diffrence between gentoo-sources and vanilla-sources?
<5> kamoricks, gentoo has some extra patches applied to the vanilla
<3> kortec: its an external module, not a "subsystem"...
<4> Alrighty. And I should use tha tone?
<3> :)
<4> *that one?
<5> kamoricks, yea, vanilla is just the standard kernel from kernel.org
<4> Alrighty...
<3> kamoricks: unless you have problems with gentoo-sources or want an -rc kernel you should probably use gentoo-sources, otherwise vanilla
<4> Thanks. Is there any reason why emerge gentoo-sources would declare that I haven't set stuff up right, even though I had just decompressed the portage-latest.tar.bz2 in my chrooted /?
<5> accius, hrm, can you pm me the output of gcc-config
<5> err gcc-config -l
<6> kamoricks: where did you decomp the snapshot?!
<7> so, uhh, vlc is broke and i can't make heads or tails of the error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/STV5EI72.html
<6> kamoricks: tar -xvjpf tarball -C /mnt/gentoo_chroot/usr
<4> triplah: /...
<4> triplah: Was that bad?
<4> triplah: Ah. /usr
<6> kamoricks: very much so :)
<4> triplah: Which directories should I now recursivly remove?
<6> kamoricks: try this
<6> cd /
<6> mv portage /usr
<6> just move the portage folder to /usr
<6> if you are in the chroot this is
<3> grey_wolf: hmm, recently upgraded to gcc 4.1.1?
<6> if you arent in the chroot then its a bit different
<7> TFKyle: yes. a couple weeks ago
<8> how well do you think installing Gentoo into a QEMU disk image will work out?
<9> I'm trying to compile a 64bit kernel to test with bochs, but I'm failing to cross-compile. (error: code model 'kernel' not supported in the 32 bit mode), any hints?
<7> Jin: slowly.
<6> Jin: it works well
<6> but yeah
<6> slowly :)
<6> qemu for linux?
<3> grey_wolf: try running fix_libtool_files.sh on whatever old versions of gcc you had installed (that includes 4.1.1 if you had it installed while it was still p.masked)
<8> triplah: no windows
<7> TFKyle: i have. anyway, i don't think that's relevant. look at the error on line 16
<4> triplah: Works wonderfully now, thanks!
<6> Jin: i havent use qemu in windows, so i'm not sure if it has the proprietry virtualisation module. qemu-softmmu i think
<6> that makes qemu bearable
<6> kamoricks: :)
<10> is there a way to take a snapshot of an application window such that even the parts of the window that aren't currently in the screen are also captured?
<7> triplah: it doesn't. it's horribly slow.
<4> Err. Not so wonderfully.
<6> Jin: otherwise its pretty slow. Jin consider getting the free VMware server, make a virtual machine, then use the free player to play it.
<6> grey_wolf: ahh thanks
<4> Why would my network not work after I chroot?
<11> ah! no font's in gtk programs, but only text... works in menus, buttons... not the checkbox labels, though. ideas?
<6> kamoricks: you need to do this
<8> triplah: would it be carryable on a USB key?
<6> kamoricks: press alt-f2
<6> so you have a terminal out of the chroot
<6> then do this
<12> kamoricks: make sure you copied the /etc/resolve.conf into the chroot
<6> cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/
<11> MatrixM: you mean /etc/resolv.conf
<13> Ahh.. happiness is a hdtemp of 35 degrees
<12> radiodog: yeah, darn fingers
<4> triplah: Hmmm, I remember having doing that... Ah well, works great now, thanks!
<6> Jin: well the VM would be, its its not too big. You still need the vmware install whereever you take the usb key. but its free soooo...
<6> kamoricks: :)
<8> triplah: as in the Player Installer?
<3> grey_wolf: ah, you're probably right
<7> TFKyle: ran the fix script anyway. it didn't find anything.
<6> Jin: ahh yeah. to be honest i havent used VMware in a while. You'd have to check out the downloads section on their site
<3> grey_wolf: check a grep "/-lstdc++" /usr/lib/*.la , and if there are any results remerge whatever package provides that .la file
<2> TFKyle /afsdft's a subsystem of the larger eselect system, i'd imagine. and it's pretty well documented on bugzilla that it's the cause
<4> What is the fastest way to make a useful kernel?
<7> TFKyle: ewww... 18 of 'em
<0> I see "-fam*" in the USE information for some packages when I do emerge -uavt world. Do I want it this way or not?
<14> i'm installing gentoo now, got a prob, after runing "USE="-doc symlink" emerge gentoo-sources, i can't emerge anything, if i do , got "problem with sandbox binary, disabling...", what is going on?
<3> grey_wolf: also, might want to do a revdep-rebuild a couple times, and on the last p*** if theres any .la files that don't belong to any packages manually rm those
<15> http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/470 <-- My friend's VLC is giving him this error when he tries to play video, what's wrong with his system?
<6> Dhraakellian: did you set -fam ? it depends if you want famd support or not. famd has sort of been superceded by inotify in the kernel
<16> but inotify has a compatible API
<6> Dhraakellian: check out the gnome guide in the gentoo docs. there is a bit of info there
<7> TFKyle: indeed. i hadn't thought to try this.
<3> (yay for cruft :D)
<16> so things that used fam can use inotify
<7> :P
<6> Garibaldi: not setting the USE flag wont stop them from using inotify though will it?
<7> TFKyle: /usr/lib/libaviplay.la doesn't seem to belong to anything. any idea who might own it?
<16> triplah: I'd have +fam
<6> hmm ok
<3> grey_wolf: nope, doesn't look like I have it here
<16> I have fam in my USE flags, and I don't have famd installed
<6> oh
<6> interesting
<0> triplah: I did replace fam with gamin, acting on the advice of a GWN a while back
<17> anyone have any idea why my sound would work if i logged in as root, but not if i logged in as myself?
<17> the error i get is http://i5.tinypic.com/140vjfk.png
<18> heh why is portage 2.1 still in ~amd64
<6> Dhraakellian: thats why te fam flag is changed then
<1> can I tell my entire system where a file is?
<19> eean: because the arch maintainer has not marked it stable yet
<0> triplah, Garibaldi: so I would want +fam, then?
<16> Dhraakellian: yeah, that's what I have
<6> i'm not sure about gamin
<19> eean: #gentoo-amd64 might know more
<1> so that um, it'll be found no matter what directory it's in
<8> viper: did you add the user to the audio group?
<3> eean: because its only been out for a day? it has to be in portage for a month with no bugs before stabling (I think)
<16> Dhraakellian: add fam do your USE flags in /etc/make.conf
<17> lol i need to do that?!?!
<0> eean: 'cause it hates you, of course
<19> TFKyle: it's stable on most arches right now
<18> TFKyle: nah, its been out a while, its just that today it got stable in x86
<17> should user be added to video group too?
<7> TFKyle: wow, a bunch of these don't belong to anything.
<8> viper: does the user need video? :P
<0> Garibaldi: where else would I put it? in package.use for every single package? !;)
<18> I'll wait a couple of days I guess :)
<3> eean: its only been out for at most 2 days, I'm still using an _rc here and I synced a couple days ago
<17> Jin: you're not kidding, are you
<8> no
<6> Dhraakellian: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml
<17> Jin: i knew it looked a bit strange when i typed groups as root
<18> TFKyle: well its already stable in x86
<20> can someone explain what exactly FastCGI is? if i download it will it automatically run python/perl/php scripts or do i need like mod_php on top of fastcgi?
<0> -ruby in vim
<18> TFKyle: obviously portage isn't a normal package, upstream and downstream are the same thing :)
<0> I'm ***uming that that's for syntax highlighting
<17> oh, gentoo...
<0> but I'm not sure
<3> eean: and if everyone was jumping off a bridge would you too? ;)
<8> lol viper
<21> !google fastcgi
<22> http://www.fastcgi.com/
<3> grey_wolf: yeah, I think portage has a habbit of leaving orphan la files around
<0> eean: so would x86 be upstream and amd64 downstream?
<17> actually Jin, root is not part of the audio group
<18> Dhraakellian: err no. gentoo is both.
<7> TFKyle: someone should fix that. ;P
<20> jeeves, yea i've seen it. i just don't get it
<0> hehheh
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