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<0> SimAtWork: but easy yes
<1> fiendskull9: well you certainly can't go wrong with gentoo. I'm about to try a gnome/xgl setup myself
<2> mngrif: unfortunately kde is just as dumb, it even has 'wannabe windows' wizards :/ ...if i was forced to change, i'd probably switch to something completely different
<3> shad42: i see nothing seriously wrong with it.
<4> SimAtWork, check dialogs
<5> Hello everyone
<6> SimAtWork, arnt u talkin about a laptop.. richiefrich's lost
<7> can we not have desktop environment wars please? :)
<8> KDE!
<5> Anybody know much about hardware specifications?
<2> its not a war till i shoot mngrif
<8> XFCE!
<2> :p
<0> SimAtWork: let me search a news recently posted
<7> |Code_He|, #hardware
<1> XPDE!



<2> afk47, please
<3> richiefrich: ibm db2 is IBM's DB software. Compares with Oracle.
<5> good
<1> db2 is some old stuff
<3> and new stuff
<9> LaptopBrain, now the only wizard type thing is when you first start it, after that you can choose if you want to run a wizard or not (and they are a WHOLE lot better than anything M$ has put out)
<5> I need to transfer dvi over a wireless signal
<5> is that possible?
<3> 8.x is rather recent sonyman
<6> SimAtWork, lol, i thought it was a laptop... my bad
<5> do you know of any good conversions?
<1> SimAtWork: well it came out a while ago
<4> sonyman, ok, well. im not gonna try gentoo just yet, im getting some more exspierence. It sounds like a delish. distro. but im still kind of between noob and intermediate linux user. i just love apt and synaptic. compiling is okay, and i HATE rpm
<7> |Code_He|, that's not a gentoo question
<5> hmmm
<0> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=424543http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=424543
<5> sorry
<0> sorry
<3> sonyman: true, but new updates come outall the time for it.
<0> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=424543
<10> whats everyone runnign now, gnome or kde or other?
<4> SimAtWork, look for a dialog PM from me plz
<3> tama00: kde
<4> tama00, gnome
<1> fiendskull9: I'm in the same disposition as you are. Right in the middle, and gentoo is great
<11> mngrif, I found the solution, so obvious. 'tail -f .... | grep .... | root-tail -'
<12> what's the debian equivalent of rc-update?
<9> fiendskull9, really, talk to the people in #debian
<7> n17ikh|Lappy, #debian
<13> How do I force deletion of a non empty directory?
<9> toxic_, wow, that is obvious.
<12> that's helpful
<7> Kavok, rm -rf
<1> SimAtWork: but it can't beat gentoo for *new* apps since gentoo is source based and requires less effort to package for
<3> Kavok: rm -rf directoryname
<10> kk thanks
<0> SimAtWork: did you read it ?
<11> :D
<7> n17ikh|Lappy, ask in a place where they may actually know. This isn't it.
<3> sonyman: nothing can beat gentoo!
<3> shad42: oh, that was for me?
<3> scrollingup
<0> SimAtWork: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=424543
<1> SimAtWork: nope. nada. The other source-based distros don't have nearly the community that gentoo does
<9> yeah, if it wasn't for this channel i'd be huddled up curling around my RHL5.2 CDs
<14> hello
<3> shad42: that's old and well known.
<3> shad42: and i always reset my root pw after i'm done an install anyhow...
<3> shad42: sometimes paranoia pays off :)
<0> SimAtWork: yes but this seem a really strange manner to develop...
<3> sonyman: and they don't have emerge either
<14> gentoo-installer crashed at the last stage. do I have to start over or is there a restore point I can use?
<4> Hasnt there been a risky experement of getting APT on gentoo? i beleive i saw it on the gentoo forums
<7> fiendskull9, very unlikely
<3> why would you want apt on gentoo?
<1> SimAtWork: nope. portage is by far the best package management system.
<4> SimAtWork, i love the hell out of apt :D
<9> portage is defiantely the best i've delt with
<3> fiendskull9: apt is great, portage is far beyond.
<9> apt WILL bite you eventualy
<3> apt won't bite you



<3> don't be silly
<3> apt is a fine tool
<1> apt is excellent, its just a different sort of tool
<4> yeah
<9> SimAtWork, right. it's when you mix dpkg itself, apt, aptitude, and dselect that things get hairy
<4> im trying new software every day
<7> ok, look, this is a gentoo support channel. Anything else is a topic for ##gentoo-pub or #otw
<3> apt is as far beyond all other package systems as emerge is beyond it :)
<3> mngrif: naw.
<4> and i like just doing apt-get <package> without hunting down the website, downloading, then compiling. (or maybe a .deb package)
<3> mngrif: not unless you do something beligerant.
<3> fiendskull9: emerge is no diff in that aspect
<7> SimAtWork, let me know when you're done
<9> c'mon people, let's take it to ##gentoo-pub
<15> Why doesn't firefox work
<15> It opens and instantly says "This document contians no data"
<15> no sites work
<15> I have remerged it 99 times :-\
<9> Sakkath, does any other browser work?
<15> mngrif: yes
<15> mngrif: Konquerer
<0> SimAtWork: a more recent news : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606 ;)
<16> Is there a directry that shows all my programs "emerged" ?
<7> shad42, off-topic
<15> mngrif: I believe it stopped working when I tried to install a theme, that failed, said it needs 1.5 or higher and i dont know how im using like 1.7 or whatever
<17> Xintruder: man portage, /world
<15> Xintruder: read the world file, /var/lib/portage/world
<18> brianw: I solved my problem
<18> it seems that somehow arc4 didn't show up in kernel config any longer
<18> I compiled it as module, modprobed it and now its working again
<9> Sakkath, wipe your settings
<15> mngrif: how
<16> guys, does that show me all the programs i emerged, and can launch ?
<9> Sakkath, rm -r ~/.mozilla
<17> Xintruder: ls /usr/bin/
<9> WAIT though
<9> that will wipe your bookmarks
<15> mngrif: well how can i view the bookmarks
<19> i am trying to get cups running with gimpprint, but after i emerge gimpprint & foomatic there are no additional drivers in cups admin, what am i missing?
<20> does anyone have an idea how to build system at virtual enviroment on remote mahine trought ssh ?
<9> Sakkath, somewhere under ~/.mozilla is a bookmarks.xml
<9> copy that over
<15> mngrif: ok thanks
<6> mzbot, wiki e17
<21> richiefrich: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_emerge_e17
<22> In which file i can define my locale?
<6> that'll be all mzbot
<20> does anyone have an idea how to build system at virtual enviroment on remote mahine trought ssh ?
<16> does ls /x *2 list all files that ends with with 2 ? it didnt for me ><
<15> mngrif: thanks a lot, that worked :D
<9> Sakkath, aint no thang.
<9> linux is becoming more like MacOS in that respect, if something doesn't work, typicaly I'll hose the settings first.
<14> why does gentoo-installer keep freezing?
<23> Shedoks: We heard you the first time.
<16> xintruder@xintruder ~ $ find -name *2 /usr/bin
<16> find: paths must precede expression
<16> Usage: find [path...] [expression]
<16> :(
<15> mngrif: I have another question
<19> Kartagis, is the "manual" installation freezing also?
<15> How can I make firefox always use aoss?
<19> i am trying to get cups running with gimpprint, but after i emerge gimpprint & foomatic there are no additional drivers in cups admin, what am i missing?
<14> kanye, I don't know
<14> should I try that one?
<23> Shedoks: To do that all you'd do is install as normal. If you have a shell prompt you can walk through the install as if you were sitting at the machine's terminal.
<24> hi, all. how do i restore an old keyboard layout which uses altgr?
<19> Kartagis, you probably could, a console install sometimes provides additional information ;)
<14> weird, it seems to be working now
<15> How can I make firefox-bin always use aoss?
<19> Kartagis, good ;)
<14> what stage tarball is this talking about?
<14> it crashed again :(
<25> does anyone know how to get sawfish to behave with gnome panels in gentoo?


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