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<0> tuxick: trashing it how? you mean lots of reading, or disk usage?
<1> tuxick, technically it is NOT a distro
<2> iamben: as in rattlerattlerattle for half an hour :)
<3> Shrew is right.
<4> LFS is a manual ;)
<2> Shrew: sure :)
<1> Rayn, exactly
<5> tuxick, what filesystem are you running on /usr?
<6> hek216 ~ # emerge -av linux-header --> there are no ebuilds to satisfy "linux-header".
<2> Draconx: xfs
<1> It's a basis for distros
<1> Anyways, I need to go smoke a cancer stick, brb
<0> tuxick: ohh, yeah, get the unstable portage version, its faster
<2> good plan
<3> xorg-server takes too long to compile. :(
<7> LFS could be considered a sort of distribution



<5> tuxick, ah I have no experience with xfs. I run reiser4 on /usr and my emerge syncs take < 30 seconds
<7> Gentoo is more than a distribution, anyway
<8> Meyli_2, thats your problem then
<2> anyone following LFS docs should end up with similar linux
<0> tuxick: its crawling during the portage cache update, right?
<2> iamben: mostly, yes
<6> it can't be masked
<8> Meyli_2, emerge --sync and try again
<3> How do you figure it's "more than a distribution"?
<6> I did a sync one hour ago... wtf?
<5> tuxick, erm, reiser4 and ~ portage
<0> getting portage-2.1_preX fixes the slow cache update
<1> tuxick, A distro of linux generally requires some sort of package management
<2> i refuse to touch reiser
<5> tuxick, bad experiences?
<2> Draconx: myself only once
<7> ServerSage, a distribution usually comes on some static media and gives you an expected result, similar to the result the other users of that distro get.
<2> but on #linux@ircnet net there's been too many "help, i lost my filesystem"
<2> always reiser
<2> the recovery tools are useless
<3> So you'd say then that Slackware isn't a distro?
<2> slackware has some package management
<7> ServerSage, gentoo gives you a "connection" to media and a flexible result, which is marginally similar and possibly quite different from the other users.
<3> kojiro: As does Slack.
<5> tuxick, I've run the --rebuild-tree option on fsck.reiserfs once, fixed it right up
<2> lucky you :)
<7> ServerSage, so slack is also "more than a distribution"
<0> Draconx: i did it once and all 2 gigs of my data ended up in lost&found =)
<2> anyway, choice of fs shouldn't account for so much diff
<0> i still use it though
<3> I think we have a lot of different defiinitions of what a distribution is.
<9> hey -- how can i find out what vga= opts (i.e. framebuffer parameters) the bootcd is using? my own install won't boot, something is wrong with the fb, the display looks like a fractal.. the bootcd loads fine tho. any ease way to check?
<2> let's time an emerge sync
<10> wtf is that model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Prosowwor
<5> tuxick, the emerge --sync bottleneck is almost entirely fs
<11> i've never had a single problem with reiserfs
<12> uhm, shoulnd wine pop up in the kde taskbar after I've emerged it?
<6> NeddySeagoon: I've got linux-headers-2.6.11-r3
<0> tuxick: its the old portage that makes your sync slow, im serious btw
<3> SimAtWork: Doesn't mean you won't.
<11> old portage sure does make syncing slow!
<2> iamben: oh yes, portage IS slow, by design
<11> ServerSage: it's been a few years now.
<5> tuxick, the unstable portage IS significantly faster at --sync
<11> ServerSage: across a wide variety of systems and diff configs.
<8> Meyli_2, thats ok
<2> ok, i'll give it a shot then
<13> Leth: probably somewhere, ya
<0> tuxick: no, i mean this is a known problem w/ the cache update in 2.0.x, 2.1 has new caching code that is fast
<11> ServerSage: maybe something will happen, but from my point of view. it's quite rock solid.
<2> iamben: aha
<11> ServerSage: conversely, i've had ext3 eat itself
<14> guys
<3> SimAtWork: I agree, doesn't mean it's perfect. I have had problems, but I still use it.
<2> iamben: does that also speed up searches?
<6> hmm... seems alright, I wonder what the error is
<14> i have a problem
<2> -s and -S ?
<0> tuxick: use eix for that
<9> there's no better test of fs stability than anecdotal evidence on a chatroom
<2> iamben: i know there's eix, it just want portage to be fast by itself



<2> eix is really fast
<14> nope
<15> Please help... I'm getting lines like this "CONNECT mx2.mail.tw.yahoo.com:25 HTTP/1.0" in my Apache logs. Is my apache install an open proxy? How can I check it?
<5> etaoin, I base all my opinions on anecdotes from a chatroom :P
<16> tuxick: Also, the old stable portage is faster when you use the cdb backend.
<0> tuxick: yeah i understand, teh answer is no though, emerge -s isnt any faster
<2> DrChandra: cdb?
<9> anyhow, anyone? how can i find out what framebuffer settings the bootcd is using? they work fine, but my install doesn't.
<2> some b0rkeley?
<16> tuxick: common database
<2> hmm, don't know that one
<10> tuxick, constant database by djb
<10> DrChandra, common?!
<2> ah, good old bernstein :)
<16> paq: Or not?
<10> DrChandra, http://cr.yp.to .. look for cdb
<3> reisio: Should I emerge xorg-x11 again now that the server is done compiling to pull in evdev support?
<17> is there any linux tool which will calculate an sha1 checksum and show the progress on screen?
<18> does the win4lin package patch the kernel so all I need to do is to build a new one or do I need to find the patch too?
<10> sleek, sha1sum
<19> Hey guys. See here: 'root block device is unspecified or not detected' when booting gentoo on a USB CD-ROM? Any idears? I tried: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Latitude_X1#Booting_the_Gentoo_LiveCD but to no avail. :-(
<13> ServerSage: if you need to, yes - that was the problem, wasn't it?
<20> hmm.. is there a way to wildcard in portage? like.. wildcard "media-plugins/gst-plugins-* ~x86"
<21> hi
<17> paq: that will show progress?
<10> sleek, bfr
<21> i have a problem my mouse don't work
<3> reisio: Yup, works great now. So what "exactly" was the problem?
<17> bfr?
<10> sleek, http://www.glines.org/software/buffer.html
<3> Finally, mouse wheel will return. Woot!
<13> ServerSage: no idea, I just found a bug that matched your problem and that's what someone said fixed it :)
<14> how do i get perl-fu in gimp?
<3> Really? Man, I looked through bug after bug on bugs.gentoo.org. You must be a search guru.
<17> paq: thanks
<10> sleek, n/p
<3> Thanks a bazillion million.
<22> http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/docs/bugzilla-howto.html
<22> And for all your other doc needs! http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/docs.php
<22> </shameless_plug>
<2> i do need new hardware, of course
<2> but still
<2> io timeout after 180 seconds - exiting
<2> rsync error: timeout in data send/receive (code 30) at io.c(109)
<2> whee
<2> while disk going mad
<14> guys how to get perl-fu?
<14> please
<21> my mouse in kde don;t move :s
<14> how to see what flags can i use with compiltion?
<8> dracony, -v
<23> hello again channel
<24> need help guys, can anyone help me install Gentoo? I'm a newbie with linux :-\
<13> mzbot: gentoo Ander|son handbook
<25> Ander|son: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/
<23> i'm still fighting myself, i juts went to do my first boot up of my gentoo instlation and i'm getting "filesystem couldn't be fixed, give root p***word for maintnace"
<20> hmm.. what was that utility to list installed packages called again?
<23> i'm using riesier
<23> reiserfs
<13> egolost: equery, ls
<13> egolost: emerge -n gentoolkit
<24> I'm on there now, and have been the past few hours I don't understand it :-(
<23> this happens when i use the my kernel, if i use the genkerenel
<23> it boots
<26> Ander|son, then ask a specific question.
<23> any ideas why?
<20> reisio: thanks.. used it a lot.. forgott the name :D
<11> anchorman: maybeyou don't have reiserfs in your kernel?
<23> i do
<23> i checked
<24> ok
<26> Ander|son, quick answers here are free, babysitting is 100$/hour ;)
<8> anchorman, your /etc/fstab is wrong


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