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Comments:
<0> johey: well the -u option here is causing a full upgrade of automake,gcc,glibc etc.. :-(
<1> doublehp_: man portage
<2> azi: You should probably upgrade them then.
<3> doublehp_, or search gentoo-wiki.com on Howto Use Portage Correctly
<4> guys, after emerge --sync cannot emerge -uDva world because of blocking packages. there is something like 40 blocking packages. What could I do?
<5> doublehp_: package.mask and add the catagory/package-name ~x86
<5> gregd: KDE packages?
<4> xorg-x11-6.9
<3> don't you mean package.keywords RiverRat? :)
<6> gregd: If you pastebin(.com and give us the URL) the emerge output so we can see exactly what packages are blocking we might be able to help you better.
<5> s0ulslack: Yes I do. It's too late.
<5> doublehp_ See above. and sorry.
<3> sleep does sound good though
<4> oki.. give me a sec
<4> oki here it is: http://pastebin.com/769708
<4> what should I do?
<7> RiverRat: no, still get message: "(masked by: ~x86 keyword )"
<8> AterPhasma: thanks for the swap idea; suspend2 can use a swap file so i did one with 2 GB size. suspends without probs now :)
<9> RiverRat: so do i emerge xorg-server before xorg-x11 or it doesnt matter? because if try emerge x11 it wants xf86-drivers-input-keyboard-1.1.0, which wants xserver-1.1.0 :s
<5> doublehp_: Did you see my comment above? It was supposed to be package.keywords.
<7> RiverRat: :)
<5> Anima: You asked which ones you need and I told you. I'd add some stuff to package.mask like johey has been suggesting all night. He seems to have a pretty good idea of what he's doing.
<2> RiverRat: Actually, I faced the problem myself for the first time some hours ago :)
<7> RiverRat: had try that ... in package.keyword - forgot S :s
<4> AllenJB: any ideas what is wrong?
<7> RiverRat: works now thx
<5> johey: Well it took me 3 days to recover from not paying enough attention to an update involving X. :(
<5> doublehp_: np
<0> RiverRat: please, don't scarre me ;-)
<0> scarry *
<2> RiverRat: Funny is that I upgraded to 7.1 for almost a week ago, but I did not restart X until today. Heh.
<5> azi: Somehow I had a mix of X 6.7 7.0 & 7.1
<10> FireverAT: me to
<5> johey: That's when I got hit too. Rude awakening it was.
<11> gregd: looks like you have modular xorg already installed, but something else is trying to pull in xorg-x11-6.9 as a dependency
<4> shiznix: do u now how to find it out what it is?
<11> possibly virtual/xft-6.8, try adding virtual/xft to package.keywords & re-emerging
<11> otherwise, `emerge -uDpvt world` will give you a better idea of what dep. is trying to install the lower (blocked) xorg version
<0> johey: what's the option in make.conf to specify the required drivers?
<2> azi: Those two lines is what I have in my make.conf: INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse joystick" and VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia vesa"
<12> is it possible to shut down a hard drive while a computer is running?
<13> yeah
<12> without destroying it?
<14> impulse32: but it will not work after that
<0> johey: everything works fine now, thank you very much (!)
<5> johey++
<12> that's too bad
<0> RiverRat: johey+=UINT_MAX
<5> impulse32: Never a good idea but that is what journaled filesystems are for.
<5> lol
<1> johey: use should add nv as well just in case ^^
<1> s/use/you/
<12> lol
<2> Katana: I can fall back on vesa, in case.
<12> it'l explode even if i unmount it first?
<15> Is there a good way to watch for package updates mostly to keep on top of security updates? I'm from the RedHat crowd, and am used to using tools like up2date, whcih made secuirty updates pretty easy to track.
<1> nv > vesa
<16> meeeeeeeh
<2> impulse32: It wouldn't break, but you should be careful. You should have a very good reason for doing it.
<5> bgrimm: Join the gentoo announce mailing list. It is low volume and mostly security related stuff
<2> azi: No problemo. :D
<15> Thanks RiverRat, I'll do that.
<2> Katana: I don't need anything else than the nvidia driver anyway. And I'm not totally lost if X wouldn't start. :)
<12> johey: you're talking about just unplugging it right?
<2> impulse32: Yes.
<1> johey: it's not somethin necessary just a matter convenience ^_^
<2> Katana: :)
<12> so there's no software way to shutdown a hd?
<17> hdparm
<2> impulse32: No, there is no clean way of doing it, unless you have hardware that support hotplugging disks.
<12> hdparm eh?
<12> oh ok
<12> yea i don't have that
<2> impulse32: You can probably use hdparm, as void^ mentioned, to shut it down, but you should know what you do if you are going to unplug it.
<17> hold on, just what are we talking about here? unpluggin an ide disk when the controller is running is likely a bad idea :/
<12> hdparam is pretty cool
<18> really bad idea....
<12> i just put the hd on standby
<12> no no
<12> i'm not unplugging it
<12> i just want it to cool down a bit
<18> you gonna end up "frying" your hd
<12> meh
<17> okay.. that's what hdparm is for :)
<12> this one is expendable anyway
<12> what's the difference between sleep and standby?
<19> impulse2_: Maybe invest in some better case cooling.
<18> and try to clean the air vent regularly :)
<17> standby is just spin down; drive will apin up and resume if you access it. sleep is more like a shutdown. doesn't always resume without quirks afaik.
<12> yea i definitely need more fans
<12> i keep the case open
<12> i'm not using sleep again
<18> you gonna get too much dust that way...
<12> dust where?
<19> impulse32: Then get a small room fan an point it at the open case. YOu need airflow.
<12> aww
<18> in the processor... mainboard... etc etc
<12> but that's so loud
<12> what's bad about dust on the mainboard?
<19> impulse2_: Fry your machine then. Save up for a replacement.
<12> i clean all the heatsinks
<20> hi guys. i'm going to be running LAMP with gentoo on an SMP box. should I enable threads for each package?
<12> no i'm just gonna get more fans for the case
<12> and then close the case up
<18> two more fans would be fine...
<12> yea i hope
<18> i got two on my PS and two more at the back...
<12> i was thinking of attaching a heatsink to the hd's
<12> did the PS come with 2?
<18> it depends on the type of PS you buy
<12> did yours come with 2?
<18> its even 3 sometimes
<18> yes
<12> oh ok
<18> its a GTR i think
<12> oh
<12> how much did it cost?
<18> one at the back and one at the bottom to **** the air out
<18> not much...
<18> bought it for around HK$400
<18> around US$50 i guess
<18> its a 450W PS
<18> it could be cheaper now
<21> somebody knows how to update the TLS certificate server side ?
<22> Does anyone know where the config file for KDE's sounds is? I have a few KDE programs installed, but not the WM, and the error-noises are driving me mental
<23> Anyone has a "Benq DW 1640"?
<22> Christian__: I have a Benq projector, if that's what it is
<23> no, a cd/dvd toaster...
<23> :-)
<22> Ah... Well maybe not, so.
<24> hmm, is it possible to lauch programs from perl script?
<24> like in shelscipts wtih the " ` `"
<24> shell*
<25> nimda562: of course
<25> i think it has system() to do that
<24> oh dear nXOR tell me :)
<24> cheers
<22> Anyone know about that KDE sounds file?
<25> NumPy: perldoc -f system
<25> nimda562: ^^^^^
<25> nimda562: theres also exec
<26> which program is responsible of the AA of fonts in general, is it fontconfig?
<27> what program can I use to merge two files like in cvs
<27> or winmerge
<28> anyone know what the max mW sblive puts out on the headphone jack?
<29> lnxnt: I think patch will do that
<29> has anyone had any troubles emerging xine-lib?
<30> felixo: that's a question for #hardware
<22> Linuxbeak: Is it a patching failure?
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