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<0> Sykopomp: what kind of kde do ya want? We got it all (except binaries)
<1> brianw how to verify that ?
<2> brianw: about what profile to use for a 2.4 kernel?
<3> yea
<0> nkirc: no, my food shall have no onions
<4> marienz: yup
<5> nkirc: you have to use IBM Java for PPC.
<0> only cheese and pita bread, because I am poor and lazy
<6> Shirakawasuna, interestingly enough, it took less time for me to compile X and KDE than it did Firefox.
<3> emerge -C kde-base/kde* && emerge kde-base/kde-meta
<0> hlieberman: interesting. Are you counting tweaking time? :)
<7> heh, Gentoo was offering the binaries for a little while, but I want a KDE that's pretty useful without the very much useless stuff like games and toys and stuff :-\
<2> brianw: no-nptl/2.4 sounds promising, but I'm not certain.
<7> and development-type stuff that I wouldn't use
<6> Shirakawasuna, Pretty plain CFLAGS for me. -O2 -pipe, I believe...
<0> Sykopomp: a-ha



<0> Sykopomp: you want split ebuilds kde
<8> gn8 @ all
<6> Sykopomp, You want the spl... beaten like a dog.
<0> mzbot: gentoo Sykopomp kde installation
<9> Sykopomp: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml
<7> yup... I'm looking at that doc right now actually hehe
<0> Sykopomp: check out the split ebuilds section - it's exactly what you want but you still have to compile it
<4> chacal: yes confirm, through research. gentoo docs, forums
<1> marienz brianw so, a good sugestion would to correct that link, right ?
<2> mzbot: gentoo Sykopomp kde split ebuilds
<9> Sykopomp: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml
<10> Pygoscelis oh.. ok
<7> is there an easier way to sort through the split ebuilds that I want without having to go one by one?
<0> hlieberman: firefox-bin for me
<7> there's like 300 of them
<2> Sykopomp: that one might be useful too
<10> Pygoscelis what an effort :-/
<6> Shirakawasuna, Same for me now. :)
<11> Hey guys, I've been looking all over the internet, and Umm I can't find the module name for the nvidia-glx
<2> chacal: yup
<11> I think it's libGL.so but I'm not too sure
<6> Shirakawasuna, What is that compiled? And who does it?
<4> cashmoney: there is none
<0> hlieberman: konqueror for me, actually. firefox is there 'just in case'
<2> Sykopomp: use the metas (kdebase-meta fex)
<0> hlieberman: just like my three video players :)
<11> brianw, for some reason my xorg isn't finding where glx is located
<6> Shirakawasuna, mplayer for everything, vlc for streams, xine for DVD's. :)
<7> marienz: eh? fex?
<2> Sykopomp: "for example"
<0> hlieberman: 386/486, probably
<3> cashmoney: you sure you dont have an ati? =p
<7> ah...
<5> nkirc: I had a mac but had to sell it IBM has the only working java its usable but don't expect too much.
<3> cuz i have that problem with my ati card before
<3> lol
<7> oh I get it
<4> cashmoney: grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
<7> thanks
<7> :P
<11> lailoken, I'm definitely sure as this is a Ti4400 ;)
<7> o/
<0> hlieberman: kaffeine for everything, amarok for streams, vlc/mplayer for things that dont' work on kaffeine (not many)
<11> cashmoney@lildevil /usr/lib $ grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf
<11> Driver "nvidia"
<4> cashmoney: lsmod|grep nvidia
<10> Pygoscelis will i be able to install firefox ?
<11> nvidia 4225364 8
<11> i2c_core 12880 1 nvidia
<10> Pygoscelis ok.. ibm here cometh i
<4> cashmoney: ls /dev/nvidia
<5> nkirc: Yes of course another fun thing to install is MacOnLinux check into that.
<11> ls: /dev/nvidia: No such file or directory
<4> cashmoney: ls /dev/nv
<0> nkirc: sounds like your only good resource is #gentoo-ppc, even if they're unhelpful :)
<4> cashmoney: ls /dev/nv*
<0> nkirc: have you checked the forums?
<12> what package is libint10.a in?
<11> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 0 May 9 12:46 /dev/nvidia0
<11> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 255 May 9 12:46 /dev/nvidiactl
<1> what does no-nptl mean ?



<0> sfullenwider: emerge gentoolkit, equery belongs libint10.a
<3> sfullenwider: emerge -s libint10.a i think?
<3> or what Shirakawasuna said
<4> chacal: it means do not use nptl (a 2.6 only glibc thread model)
<10> Shirakawasuna i'll probably just talk to the slackware channel and see if they know
<1> brianw got it. Thanks.
<5> nkirc: Yes that is a good channel Jose will take care of you.
<10> Pygoscelis i don't know where to start ..
<4> cashmoney: perms are wrong... should be root video I would think
<10> Pygoscelis JoseJX wasnt there :(
<12> tnx Shirakawasuna
<6> brian, if it's 666, does it really matter?
<0> sfullenwider: np
<11> brianw, but the nvidia module is loaded, just not glx, and I have enabled it in xorg.conf
<4> hlieberman: nope
<13> Err... I just found a M***IVE security hole in GDM
<0> woo, happy after-apocalypse-day
<4> cashmoney: there is no glx module
<14> hey do you guys have e-17's feed the trolls sign?
<13> (unless I've broken something haha)
<5> Has anyone in here tryed out xgl Im wondering if it's worth using it
<6> funkyHat, Come to #gentoo-security
<0> Pygoscelis: #gentoo-xgl
<11> brianw, then why do they need to install nvidia-glx?
<4> cashmoney: the kernel module uses glx
<14> maybe not
<11> hmm.. well if the module is being used, then why wouldn't it work?
<4> hold on, I am ssh'n to my mom's pc. she has an nvidia
<11> k
<4> cashmoney: the only module she has is nvidia
<11> brianw, I think xorg is point to the wrong place for the nvidia modules
<4> cashmoney: grep dri /etc/X11/xorg.conf
<11> not loaded
<11> commented*
<11> # Load "dri"
<7> weee 121 files and 280mb of compiling
<7> :D
<0> cashmoney: so you do/do not have glx enabled?
<11> Shirakawasuna, I do.. it's just when I type glxgears or glxinfo it restarts x
<0> cashmoney: fun
<0> cashmoney: have you tried different versions of the drivers?
<11> Shirakawasuna, yes, but My thing is xorg still looks for it in a different spot
<0> looks for what?
<11> the modules
<0> hmmm
<1> brianw would you please tell me what a readlink /etc/make.profile should return ?
<11> # ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" is where they are supposed to look for nvidia modules
<11> instead, it was somewhere else
<15> is anyone having a problem trying to sync with raptor.gentoo.org lately?
<4> chacal: depends on who
<0> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak, X -configure and then see if you can set up a xorg w/ stable video
<0> cashmoney: ^
<4> chacal: for you, I *think* it should be: /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/no-nptl/2.4/
<1> brianw the same way I have shown you some lines above...when you asked me. It has show a link to a folder...I don't get it.
<1> brianw so, a link to a folder ?
<11> Shirakawasuna, and I don't think I can link the other modules without effecting it negatively
<1> brianw I just fixed that link and now it returns me what you have just show.
<1> *shown
<16> Is there udma's in sata disks? I mean for excample copying files seems to be slow.
<17> ha1331, no there is not, UDMA is for ide
<11> kcbanner, but there is for EIDE right?
<18> hello, as a linux user interesting in trying out gentoo, i am wondering what it has to offer me. from what i understand from the website, i can build my entire system for my particular cpu architecture and with my desired level of optimizations (ie pentium4 with -O3). does this mean i can compile the kernel for p4, xorg will be built and optimized for p4, my nvidia card drivers can be built and optimized for p4?
<10> if i emerge gdm, can i unmerge xdm without losing x ?
<17> cashmoney dunno
<6> unity, Yes.
<17> nkirc, leave XDM
<16> kcbanner: ok, then it must be something else. It just came to my mind, cause I've had similar thing with ide disk that dont use dma
<17> ha1331, yeah PIO = slow on ide
<6> unity, Except, I believe nvidia drivers are available only as a binary... IIRC.
<10> kcbanner ok thanks
<10> kcbanner i can remove it from rc-update though, right?
<18> hlieberman: and approximately how much performance gain will this give me? (my computer is pretty old and unable to keep up with newer softwares like kde)
<19> the driver is binary-only... but the shim will be p4-optimized! :D
<6> unity, It depends on the flags.


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