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<0> kadigibox: That will fix that problem but you might be interested in iptables traffic shaping abilities.
<1> traffic shaping and layer7 iptables is fun :)
<2> RiverRat: thanks for articulating what i cannot :P
<3> what are layer 7 ip tables?
<2> SuperSim: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_7
<2> SuperSim: follow links for info :D
<0> Kyuu: No proble, Luckily the shaping works regardless of you blood alcohol level.
<3> thanks
<2> RiverRat: yay!
<4> n17ikh|Lappy: did you get sound working w/ my advice?
<5> is there a gentoo amd64 channel?
<2> RiverRat: sadly my server is in need of rebuilding and an iptables overhaul
<0> I need to work on my firewall rules too.
<6> How do I install another copy of the kernel sources?
<2> RiverRat: mine work.... too well
<6> I want to make a kernel that doesn't have the ck sources.



<3> Evalbudha: probably.
<3> Evalbudha: what's your question though
<2> RiverRat: it used to correctly handle dcc, but no longer seems to :/
<1> PeterFA: emerge
<0> Kyuu: Same here. I seem to have to punch about 4 holes in it after every reboot.
<2> RiverRat: i mean. its running 2.6.10
<6> brianw, would that make another directory and not screw with what I have set up already?
<2> RiverRat: yah... i have way mreo rules than i really neeed ::/
<2> i should start over and simplify it
<1> PeterFA: as long as you do not have the stupid "symlink" USE flag set
<5> SuperSim: nothing really.. just want to see if there is.. planning to install the amd64 on my laptop when i get it in a couple of days
<2> oh.... im skerd of my server updating to gcc 3.4 ;P
<0> My default is to DROP but I still feel better with about 20 DROP rules for all the problematic packets at the top before even starting the ALLOW rules.
<6> brianw, ah, I did. That explains part of my problem
<2> RiverRat: hahaha, we seriously think the same
<7> http://pastebin.com/588348 <- anyone know why this occurs when i emerge gnome
<2> RiverRat: all sorts of rules for dropping XMAS/NULL/etc scans :p
<0> same here.
<8> Can the gtk installer ONLY do a grp install?
<2> budresin: sounds like you need to do a manual install if you cant figure that out :/
<6> brianw, will emerge gentoo-sources without symlink USE automatically add the ck patch?
<6> I find the patch is nice, but it causes some problems.
<9> does the gentoo live CD include the graphical installer?
<6> IT DIDN't, woohoo!!!
<6> yeah!
<8> Kyuu, I've done them before but the handbook is unclear on this issue
<1> PeterFA: of course not
<6> brianw, sorry, I'm just a little nervous after what happened last time.
<2> budresin: it will do 1/2/3/GRP/other
<6> Seems also is broken with kernel version 2.6.16-r1
<6> pity
<8> Kyuu, why does the handbook insist that im doing a no network install?
<2> budresin: because you chose the wrong install manual
<2> budresin: back up and read the text near it... its probably specifying networkless install
<1> budresin: the handbook knows all
<6> brianw, that I know well. If it weren't for the manual, I wouldn't be able to run Gentoo, though I did have to get outside help.
<10> |ryan|: yes, it the 2006.0 live CD contains the installer
<6> brianw, I found the manual wasn't enough. I had to go do some research.
<8> Kyuu, no it is the x86 handbook part 3 using the gtk installer
<2> budresin: *sigh* then dont listen to me, even though ive seen the screenshots
<2> budresin: you know what.. break your system.. i wont be here to listen to you complaining
<8> Kyuu, im looking at the handbook right now
<2> budresin: fine
<6> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-429035-highlight-sound.html <-- second only to the manual.
<2> budresin: The Gentoo 2006.0 Handbook is an effort to centralise documentation into a coherent handbook. It contains the networkless installation instructions for the 2006.0 release and parts on working with Gentoo and Portage.
<9> cool
<2> budresin: i hope you can read the description
<2> budresin: especially the part about *networkless*
<8> Kyuu, so where do i find the non network install guide
<2> *sigh*
<9> does gentoo support madwifi?
<8> i mean the network install guide
<9> or will i have to build my own kernel/tools to use my atheros card?
<2> budresin: The Gentoo Handbook is an effort to centralise documentation into a coherent handbook. This handbook contains the installation instructions for internet-based installation approaches and parts about working with Gentoo and Portage.
<2> budresin: wow.. your reading abilities are quite up to par... (sarcasm)
<8> Kyuu, well how intuitive to not look at the 2006.0 handbook when booting the 2006.0 livecd
<10> |ryan|: there is a ebuild in portage that will build the kernel module, and another that will give you the configuration tools: net-wireless/madwifi-{driver,tools}
<8> Kyuu, you must be clairvoyant
<9> octavious: awesome
<2> budresin: too bad reading it something that most people dont do



<11> how do i setup up grub on my software raid 0
<11> for the life of me i cant figure it out
<2> budresin: who is clairvoyant?
<8> Kyuu, you must be clairvoyant to make sure and look for the most unintuitive option
<2> budresin: you also must read.. however hard that might be
<12> I want to see what is happening when I got to a http link. How it's redirecting me and such. How do I do this?
<11> anyone in here using a software raid 0
<11> ?
<10> |ryan|: make sure you add the madwifi USE flag in /etc/make.conf
<8> Kyuu, but thanks for just pointing me to the correct place without being an ***...oh wait you were
<13> anyone emerged warzone 2100?
<9> sun_tzO: I'm not sure that grub supports that... grub would have to be able to speak raid 0 without the kernel
<11> then how do i boot
<2> budresin: yup... i was... because i have very little tolerance for people who will not/cannot read
<8> Kyuu, i do read but i have little tolerance for ***es
<2> budresin: kinda funny that youre the first to ask this question if its sucha hard thing
<9> sun_tzO: making a /boot partiton that is not raid 0 and putting an initrd on there will do it.
<3> yay for 1.5tb of storage
<3> i wonder how long till that's full now :(
<8> Kyuu, i can only thank heaven that you were here
<2> budresin: i dont care what you have a tollerance for.. you have the answer and you can continue now :P
<9> sun_tzO: not a particularly easy trick
<8> Kyuu, yes and you will still be an ***
<11> |ryan| yeah
<11> what about a boot disk?
<2> budresin: youre not the first to call me that :p
<14> when i try to emerge ati-drivers it gives me the warning The package frequires the in-kernel PCMCIA drivers to be enabled for kernel 2.6.x. anyone know how to fix that?
<8> Kyuu, you should be very proud
<9> sun_tzO: that will work
<11> kinda lame though :(
<9> sun_tzO: what you should read up on is initrd
<3> ^_-yairgo`: cd /usr/src/linux; make menuconfig; / pcmcia should help
<11> |ryan|: will do
<9> sun_tzO: but you will have to store your kernel and initrd on somthing that is not RAID
<9> also, you know you are signifigantly increasing your chances of data loss by using RAID0, right?
<9> one disk dies, all your data is gone
<15> generally speaking, raid 0 is for chumps
<11> i dont really care if one dies ...very unlikely
<11> anyways
<14> TheSimkin how long should it take
<15> ^_-yairgo`: 10 mins tops
<9> sun_tzO: you will eat your words.
<11> never had a drive fail
<15> sun_tzO: the hard disk is the most likely part in your computer to fail.
<11> this i know
<14> TheSimkin just makig sure it wasnt supposed to like bring up a menu
<9> sun_tzO: murphy's law, dude.
<15> ^_-yairgo`: it is
<9> what brand drives are you using?
<14> oh ok
<10> sun_tzO: are you using mdadm to set up your RAID?
<11> WD 3.gbs SATA
<14> TheSimkin now where do i go lol
<11> yes i used mdadm to set up my raid
<9> sun_tzO: the only legit time for using RAID 0 is for scratch disks
<9> any other use is asking for trouble.
<6> how do I get the old settings to work with new kernel sources?
<6> I don't want to redo all my settings
<15> ^_-yairgo`: i won't hold your hand
<11> then what to use?
<11> raid 10
<11> ?
<6> make old?
<16> PeterFA: check out the kernel upgrade guide
<14> TheSimkin i typed / and searched pcmcia and alot of stuff came up i dont know what to do with them or anything?
<9> sun_tzO: what is it that you are trying to use?
<9> er
<10> sun_tzO: you could probably set up a small partition not in RAID to store your initrd+kernel for booting on one of the disks
<9> trying to do?
<6> goldfish, I'm actually not upgrading. I got new sources becuause I want to install a non-ck kernel in my grubby.
<11> im trying to finish my gentoo install on this new PC
<9> right, but why are you doing RAID0?
<11> but i see that i need to redo everything
<11> for performance


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