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Comments:
<0> ... my USE flags mean NOTHING.
<1> the alsa irc channel seems dead, but the gentoo one thrives. A shame, because my real problem is pretty ALSA specific
<2> Krillancello: for example?
<1> n17ikh|Lappy what card do you have?
<0> brianw: I tell it -X, -gnome, -gtk, -kde, -qt... and it STILL wants to install ALL of them.
<3> VIA 900 something
<3> let me see
<2> Krillancello: that does not mean anything
<4> lol know your HW people
<3> 00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS964 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 36)
<2> Krillancello: post your emerge output here: http://rafb.net/paste
<3> I *think* that might be it. hah isa bridge
<4> brianw well what does mean something .....the laugh of a small child
<4> the smell of a sweet rose
<5> n17ikh|Lappy: paste the output of lspci to rafb.net/paste
<3> actually I was wrong, it's just intel, no Via
<1> mine is an integrated realtek ALC880 HD Audio Chipset, and it doesn't seem to work in any distro despite ALSA's claim to support it
<2> Krillancello: there are many other USE flags that would REQUIRE X and frineds
<4> the compiling of a Gentoo?
<3> yeah, this is some sort of integrated crap
<3> It worked, once, actually
<3> it's just a matter of finding HOW it worked
<1> anyone here managed to get sound working on an ATI XPRESS chipset motherboard?
<3> it worked in... suse 9 or something like that
<5> n17ikh|Lappy: lspci to rafb.net/paste, stat!
<6> Krillancello: what does emerge --info show for your USE flags
<7> When you run 'doze, you don't think of things, you just expect them to work. Gentoo is not like this.
<2> Krillancello: got that output?
<4> n17ikh|Lappy so no other distro has gotten it too work besides suse 9?
<4> i fail to believe you google is your friend and
<3> http://pastebin.com/588302
<8> PeterFA: Yes but when windows changes things on you in an unexpected fashion. You don't expect that in Gentoo either. :P
<3> I am JUST NOW TRYING to get this working
<3> mind you
<4> you dont have to go distro specific when setting stuff up
<3> suse was the only thing it automagically worked in.
<7> RiverRat, oh, I don't know about that, but I could go on al other problems
<1> n17ikh|Lappy your card isn't listed in the ALSA matrix, but the closest is the 966 which uses hda-intel
<3> I'm fiddling about with various modules now
<8> n17ikh|Lappy: If you have the suse CD then boot off of it and lsmod.
<3> this is quite possibly one of the cheapest motherboards ever
<4> n17ikh|Lappy all im sayin is google it and so what if its a ubuntu how to i used other distro how to on other system and they worked fine for the most part
<5> argh
<3> all I'm saying is that I am just now trying to get it to work.
<3> I know about google.
<9> Hi, I no longer have broadband and I want to install gentoo on anther computer
<3> I am not new at this "computer thing".
<4> n17ikh|Lappy i pray for your alsa miracle
<9> can I just cp /usr/portage to my new computer and then emerge --sync?
<1> don't want to spam, but im gonna repost my original question
<1> i need a question answered about the LiveCD (the amd64 install one, to be exact). And here it is: when I try to boot it, it appears to stall while loading the snd-hda-intel ALSA driver (which is the driver for my onboard ALC880 audio), then after a short time reboots. I've never been able to make this card work although ALSA claims to support it, but it's never caused a crash for me before. So my question to someone who knows about the Live
<1> CD is: would the LiveCD fail and reboot without a word if it simply couldn't load a driver? or does this indicate that the driver is actually crashing the machine when it's loaded?
<4> n17ikh|Lappy what does that mean
<3> ALC880... that sounds vaguely familiar, actually
<3> that's a realtek card, right?
<4> n17ikh|Lappy hell i know folks who used DOS and cant do diddly on a linux box
<1> yeah
<3> weird
<1> integrated on an ATI board
<3> not that I can help you but the model number sounds familiar
<1> well ATI designed anyway
<10> how i can i rebuild a manifest?
<1> yeah it uses hda-intel, like yours
<3> might be... that asus board
<6> DetectiveInspekt: you could just emerge --sync it up, and then copy just the /usr/portage/distfiles, since those are the sizable files
<3> but I haven't got linux on that one
<11> ok, thanks for the help, tommorow I may even be able to have some fun with gentoo... heheh.. goodnight all..
<3> actually it's funny, the last time I had windows on this box, I couldn't get the audio working
<3> which was REALLY odd
<1> geez alsa on freenode is a ghost town... anyone know anywhere else i can find an ALSA guru to ask this?
<7> If you work with 'doze, you might aswell work with Gentoo.
<3> when all else fails, go mailing lists
<3> I finally went pure gentoo on that box not too long ago
<3> got rid of the raid card with horrible drivers
<3> and by horrible I mean absolute unstable crap
<7> I went all Gentoo not too long ago either.
<7> 'nix is everything now.
<3> if you ever get the chance to buy a Promise SX6000 raid card... don't
<2> get a lsi instead :)
<3> unless you like windows xp enough to make it your fileserver
<10> PeterFA: 'nix has always been everything
<0> brianw, octavious: Still nothing. The damn machine is being a bastage.
<3> I'm very satisfied with the cheapo highpoints I have in there now running software RAID
<7> kraftwerk, well, you know what I mean
<12> ok, last issues
<2> Krillancello: did you post the output like i asked?
<12> my ntp-client is telling me it cant find the host
<12> i changed it, still doesnt work
<9> octavious, true, but I'v updated my portage tree not long ago, and I think the packages could be out of date
<0> brianw: The machine's net.eth0 just decided to screw itself. I'm going to start a fresh Gentoo install. At least then I'll know the damn crap will actually _work_.
<9> hopefully not many, I hopefully don't need a window manager
<9> thanks anyway
<2> Krillancello: that is weak :)
<3> what was it to get my newly inserted into the kernel modules working?
<3> make modules && make what?
<8> n17ikh|Lappy: If they are inserted then they should be working
<3> well
<3> to get them inserted
<3> then
<8> n17ikh|Lappy: make modules_install && insmod <mod_name>
<7> wow. I got some broken builds. Thank god for rev-devb
<0> brianw: This machine is weak. It's a Dell. You can only expect a Dell to cost way too much money; you can't expect it to _work_.
<3> ah, there we are
<7> or rev-dep even
<3> it's modules_install
<13> isn't it just "make && make modules_install"
<3> I was using modules-install
<2> Krillancello: ok
<3> righto.
<7> Adaeniel, what if you wanted to build the kernel and the modules_install as one make command?
<7> Adaeniel, how would that look?
<8> make all modules modules_install install
<0> RiverRat: all? o_O
<14> RiverRat: modules is implied in 2.6 afaik
<7> You just overloaded my tiny insignificant brain.
<8> Krillancello: Sure, why not.
<0> RiverRat: Haha.
<8> LSD`: I know, I wanted to state it explicitly.
<13> PeterFA: I do not know.
<7> hmm, FF croaked again.
<13> PeterFA: I am but a linux newb ^^
<7> Adaeniel, ah.
<7> Adaeniel, likeme.
<13> go go newbiness
<3> <- not happy
<3> but now at least alsaconf loads
<3> instead of LOL ERRORS.
<7> RiverRat, is that the blue pill?
<6> n17ikh|Lappy: whats it do?
<8> Or the red one. I get them confused all the time.
<3> can't find me sound card
<3> and can't insmod the module
<7> RiverRat, I took the red pill myself.
<3> ...I'm an idiot
<3> of COURSE I can't locate it
<3> I hadn't run updatedb or anything
<14> PeterFA: the blue pill only makes you happy if you've got someone to share it with :P
<6> n17ikh|Lappy: are you sure it was the write driver for your card?
<3> yeah yeah, I just have to find it
<3> insmod snd-hda-intel doesn't work though
<3> do I have to specify location better than that?
<6> n17doo modprobe snd-hda-intel
<8> n17ikh|Lappy: It helps sometime.
<8> s
<3> modprobe runs silent
<3> no errors or feedback
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