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<0> drac: I need open-gl I want to play quake tho..
<1> ruxpin: composite extension ;)
<0> drac: will it work on xorg 6.8 something?
<1> _nightw0lf: yeah, et, quake3 and those run just fine
<2> srm: nope
<3> ops
<3> ooops
<4> http://pastebin.com/543737
<0> drac: what options I should use for the open radeon driver? I have enabled it on the kernel, but what I should edit in the xorg config ?
<5> _nightw0lf - whats your video carD?
<0> idiot: Radeon 9200SE
<5> Ew....
<6> what package do i need for whois
<5> that isn't so good with Linux.
<7> _nightw0lf: back up your xorg.conf and run the fglrxconfig script



<5> All ATI drivers ****, I've tried most of them with my old Radeon 9800 Pro.
<8> rsk: whois
<6> oh, nice.
<9> :)
<0> ruxpin: but I want the open source driver
<10> http://nopaste.biz/?4077 <-- can someone help me with this?
<7> _nightw0lf: ah then
<0> ruxpin: not the one ATI gives
<10> this occurs when trying to start quake3
<7> _nightw0lf: use the radeon driver?
<1> _nightw0lf: http://hdr.unk.fi/~drac/xorg.conf , that's radeon 9200 setting w/ xorg 7..
<7> _nightw0lf: umm..no. that one is for 2d
<7> _nightw0lf: I think it is the x11-drm package
<1> ruxpin: it's outdated, kernel one is more up-to-date
<10> _nightw0lf: i want a driver that has composite extension and direct rendering on multiple X servers
<10> I don't care who comes up with it ;-)
<1> _nightw0lf: use the radeon driver and you'll get accelled 2D _and_ 3D, just compile kernel with direct rendering manager support w/ radeon
<7> drac: do you know if the svideo support is in xorg7?
<1> ruxpin: not yet, gatos.sf.net merged with xorg but only tv-in support so far
<4> http://pastebin.com/543737 <------ can anyone help me with this?
<10> linuxboyfriend: you're trying to compile what?
<4> MasterOfDisaster: kdenetwork
<7> drac: the gatos site was a mess, I never indulged into that :) I hope they'll include the tv-out too
<11> Just to be sure, I'm using a amd64 cpu, but not running 64bit. -mcpu=athlon-xp is correct?
<10> did you mess with your linux-headers recently? what version do you have installed?
<10> Solskogen: -march=athlon-xp
<12> alright, I'm back. emerging xorg-server-1.0.1 on amd64 dies with glxcmds.c:1796: error: 'xGLXQueryHyperpipeNetworkSGIXReq' undeclared, followed by many more similar errors
<4> MasterOfDisaster: I am using kernel 2.6.15 and installed gentoo-2005.0
<13> linuxboyfriend: is there a reason you are compiling it by hand and not using portage?
<12> any thoughts?
<10> linuxboyfriend: emerge -pv linux-headers
<4> iamben: yes i want to learn
<13> linuxboyfriend: there is no point
<4> MasterOfDisaster: hmm, lemme check
<3> tilgovi: kernel ?
<1> tilgovi: is that first error? or does it complain about missing .h files or smthing?
<13> use slackware if you wanna waste your time doing everything manually
<14> hmmm
<8> drac: ruxpin er you do know you don't need anything special for tv-out right?
<12> drac: as far up as I can see (I have no X right now, so it's a terminal), I don't see anything about missing .h...there's one warning and then those errors
<4> MasterOfDisaster: can i install linux-header without portage?
<14> it seems that gentoo's kde dependencies on hal/dbus are messed up
<12> srm: 2.6.15-r1
<4> MasterOfDisaster: cuse i have to emerge sync to look for latest headers
<4> MasterOfDisaster: i am on a dialup so i prefer to install kernel and kde manually
<10> linuxboyfriend: you might consider using LFS (Linux From Scratch), if you want to do everything manually
<10> linuxboyfriend: no point in that
<4> MasterOfDisaster: hmm
<3> tilgovi: no :), my thoughts 've been about missing kernelfunctionlity, wether built-in or module, kinda-kernel-config-thing (?)
<13> what does dialup have to do with how you build it? you still have to dl the source either way
<15> hey can anyone help with a emerge error with esound-0.2.36-r1, i've tried re-emerging openjade and docbook-sgml-utils but i still keep getting a make error
<4> MasterOfDisaster: emerge -pv linux-headers says : sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.11-r2 [2.6.8.1-r2] 0 kB
<14> someone needs to update a kde howto or something
<3> tilgovi: i went back to 2.6.14-r5 and ati .20 drivers for i got .6.15 kernel not running (bad)
<14> kde media io slave has been broken for ages in gentoo stable
<12> srm: I just found something in the forums that looks possible. Something about eselect being messed up and needing to change a link to glext.h
<10> look, it seems like this stuff needs to be patched to work, and this is a thing of which portage should take care
<16> hi, can anyonet tell me, if its possible to have 2.6 kernel instead of 2.4 in gentoo? because when i was doing everything by the handbook, i compiled 2.4 kernel, and i dont had any chance to choose



<16> *anyone
<3> tilgovi: i allways have to admit, im not this deep into it (should tag as signature)
<10> if you want to to it on your own, please see the LFS handbook/the LFS forums.
<14> kde requires hal-0.4.x and dbus-0.2x but gentoo installs hal-0.5x and dbus-0.6x
<16> MasterOfDisaster: that was on me ?
<10> nostur_: nope --> linuxboyfriend
<4> MasterOfDisaster: what i think is that as i am using kernel 2.6.15 so i should emerge linux-header 2.6.15, am i right?
<16> damn
<17> linuxboyfriend: if you don't upgrade to the newest headers you can expect compilation failures with various packages. and if you circumnavigate portage when building other things you won't take advantage of compatibility/bug fixes/patches.
<10> linuxboyfriend: no
<7> mbishop: tv-out works fine on my framebuffer but on X npt
<16> B
<18> I get "install: cannot stat `/usr/portage/x11-wm/fluxbox/files/0.9.10/styles-menu-fluxbox': No such file or directory" ... fluxbox is 9.14 now
<13> nostur_: what arch are you on? it should default to 2.6 on a new install
<14> to fix it I did " emerge =hald-0.4.8 "
<17> linuxboyfriend: no, you should just allow portage to install whatever the latest stable package is that's being proposed, as per normal in any given situation
<17> if you want to toy around manually I'm with MasterOfDisaster - you should be using lfs or slackware
<16> iamben: 2.4.31 kernel and x86 arch
<13> nostur_: are you using a recent stage tarball? the default profile is definitely 2.6
<19> hello :-)
<7> nostur_: gentoo is all 2.6 now
<3> hmmm....but sometimes its needed to break portage; when i need programs not in portage, erm, that are not ebuild-ed. im not able to build a package by my self, so i get the code and try to make it run (how to bold 'try')
<4> kerframil, MasterOfDisaster: i think i should first emerge sync and then emerge linux-headers, Is that OK now :)
<7> nostur_: you did something wrong :)
<16> iamben, ruxpin, i was doing net install, and it installed 2.4 kernel
<17> linuxboyfriend: that's a good start
<20> nostur_: what if you do emerge -vp gentoo-sources ?
<10> linuxboyfriend: so as kerframil says, do 'emerge --sync && emerge kdenetwork' and enjoy, or look into LFS/slackware/whatever
<19> is firefox 1.5 available as an emerge ?
<7> wilsby: you aren't using kde 3.4 are you?
<6> taw: yes
<10> taw: yes
<13> linuxboyfriend: you should just emerge what you want to install, let portage take care of dependencies
<16> dedalo_ : now or in installation process ?
<20> now
<21> taw have a look yourself emerge mozilla-firefox -pv
<16> dedalo_ ill try, what it should do?
<19> cheloo: it says www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r4
<4> MasterOfDisaster: but all other kde packages like kdelibs, kdemultimedia, kdevelop are installed finely only kdenetwork is probleming
<20> nostur_: it should show you which version you are going to get, is safe with -p
<13> taw: 1.5 is still marked "unstable", you'll have to unmask it
<17> linuxboyfriend: that doesn't contradict the point of anything that's been said previously
<16> dedalo_: it told me it will dwnld 2.4.31 kernel :/
<19> iamben: i have to do what exactly ;-) ?
<22> taw: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" emerge --pretend mozilla-firefox
<3> but, ok, i have to make sure (manually) to teach portage whats going on, and when portage says 'go away', i'd better be sure to keep track of the things im doing, besides a sense-making partitioning schema, folders and stuff
<20> nostur_: try emerge -vp gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1
<10> http://nopaste.biz/?4077 - Problem with xorg 7 and ati-drivers, upon Quake3 startup - can someone help me?
<17> linuxboyfriend: at the very least, you should bring "system" up to date before expecting things to work. the whole point of having a package manager and official package maintainers is that they keep things working, ***ert QA procedures and generally fix bugs.
<21> does stag3-x86 wokrs also well for pentium4 ?
<19> cov: wow, it does something :-)
<17> linuxboyfriend: you can't reasonably expect to be supported if you operate outside of portage :)
<23> chemische verbindung fngt mit "ba" an 4 buchstaben
<19> cov: could you tell me a bit more about ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" ?
<13> taw: echo "www-client/mozilla-firefox" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
<24> Hi i use evms but initrd with genkernel not evms_activate
<20> nostur_: it doesn't work with version
<24> any help ?
<4> kerframil: hmm, ok thanks a lot
<16> dedalo_: any other ideas ?
<13> taw: run that command and itll tell portage that you want to use the "unstable" mozilla-firefox... or change it to mozilla-firefox-bin if you wanna use that and not waste an hour compiling
<3> nocz: barium ? no german talk? what about confidential informations?
<22> taw: It means enabling test "~" ebuild temporarily for just that emerge
<17> nocz: english please or #gentoo.de
<19> thx :-)
<22> np
<23> ok ok dont get angry
<3> nocz: but hey, what about char-counts?
<25> how to set Hardware clock to UTC
<19> one more question, how to get a list of packages that need to be recompiled because USE flags changed ?
<26> hello everybody
<17> nocz: not angry - just pointing out that it's an english-only channel ;)
<23> it has to be 4 chars


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