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<0> octho, jrcunha, English, please :-)
<1> kojiro, ok
<2> typing*
<3> the last thing I said was at 21:47... It's 21:54
<4> i don't speak english!!!!
<5> kojiro kick'em all!
<6> lag maybe?
<7> that was grammatically incorrect anyways - puta fiada
<8> DrChandra, the PHP does report correct time, but the correct time in the wrong timezone
<9> but you type it?..
<10> I just had a bit of a harddrive corruption issue. From what I can tell, portage keeps track of all the files that are installed, and their checksums etc. Is there a tool somewhere in gentoo to check all files to make sure that they are still there and undamaged?
<11> come on guys, let's be decent. at least help him find a gentoo channel for his language.
<5> Fieldy kick'em all!
<0> Fieldy, I was trying to figure out if it's spanish or italian
<2> Whats his language?
<12> CrashandDie: YOu spewed four mor lines after: _AxS_: any idea why it wouldn't run ?
<0> Fieldy, before I guess and look like an idiot ;-)
<5> kojiro portuguese
<3> DrChandra: hmm, lag i guess then ^^
<4> ok ok..
<13> CrashandDie: so it works now? any ideas what was missing?
<0> yep, portuguese
<4> i will speak english..
<14> anyone knows if i can put the last release of grsec in a new 2.6.16.1 kernel? or it can't be possible?=
<0> jrcunha, octho, there's #gentoobr
<3> _AxS_: no, not really, I did run "crond" as root... Dunno if that did something...
<13> CrashandDie: well that would start dcron, so i guess it didn't start when you booted?
<15> kojiro: and why not gentoo-pt? :-P
<3> _AxS_: yeah... Though dcron is in rc-update
<4> kojiro, i apreciate your help.. but i prefre this channel..
<0> ruben_gonc, because of the .br at the end of their addresses :-)
<4> kojiro, i learn so much more here..
<4> :)
<2> does Gentoo have a #gentoo-uk channel?
<16> Hello everyone. I'm trying to get myself a bootsplash according to http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash ; however, emerge complains when building splashutils >> http://pastebin.com/646703 . Any suggestions what to do?
<17> anyone good with framebuffers? I don't want them really. But LiveCD boots fine with my screen while I can't get my install to work. It would boot but nothing on the screen (I could ssh) but it tried using intelfb, where LiveCD uses vesafb. Made changes to /kernel now it won't boot at all ?
<15> kojiro: lol
<0> styleuk, it does. But more importantly there's ##gentoo-pub :-P
<2> Well would you look at that, it does :P
<5> jrcunha then, learn how **** my balls
<12> styleuk: Why, can't you speak American? :)
<2> DrChandra, nope :(
<18> That would cool to find a place where gentoo users can talk uk-ineese
<15> talk esperanto
<19> xcore: er...
<4> xcore . tu eh um carnica mesmo
<13> brif8: ok.. so to repeat, fb worked with the livecd but doesn't on your system? are you using vesafb or vesafb-tng?
<0> jrcunha, don't fall into his trap!
<5> jrcunha what?
<20> xcore, watch your language in here.
<1> xcore, chupa meu pau fiadaputa
<20> octho, you too, this is an english language channel.
<21> hello
<17> _AxS_: yes. lived showed just vesafb nothing about vesafb-tng. I'm not sure which I'm using
<22> Profichilla: make sure you did compile your current kernel with framebffer splash support otherwise splashutils doesnt want to emerge
<5> roger55 ok
<21> roger55, this be englisdh channel. is me allowed to talk english like Ali G?
<1> roger55, i know, sorry
<13> vesafb-tng is a better version of vesafb, but they're both 'vesafb'
<5> xcore xcuse-me
<5> roger55 excuse-me
<17> _AxS_: ok do I emerge it also or is it in the menuconfig somewhere ?
<20> back to topic then.
<13> its in menuconfig
<17> _AxS_: could you point me to where I didn't see it
<18> maybe styleuk wants to say things like "keep your pecker up" (not obsine in UK) without getting kicked.
<13> select VESA fb support, it should give you a choice of which one.. this ***umes you're using gentoo-sources ?
<2> tux_rulez, now im confused
<17> hardened-sources I'll check again is that under Devices-> Graphics Devices
<13> brif8: not sure if vesafb-tng is available in hardened-sources, that could be your problem...
<18> in UK pecker means chin in US it has a diferent meaning
<17> ok so it would be best then to emerge gentoo-sources and use the .config as a start
<2> tux_rulez, i thaught it ment nose...
<13> tux_rulez: or, 'back later, i'm poipping out for a fag'.. meaning cigarette
<23> hi. i just baught a new external dvd burner. everything works fine under winDOS, but i can't find the device under linux. I'm useing gentoo; at bootup I get the following message: Vendor: BENQ Model: DVD DD EW164B Rev: BEGB
<23> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 00
<23> I think the device should be /dev/sda1, but that one does not exists
<11> tux_rulez / styleuk / _AxS_ can we please stick to topics remotely related to gentoo?
<13> brif8: well, except that you'd lose your 'hardened' features...
<13> brif8: i haven't used gentoo-hardened so i dunno how that effects things
<13> s/effect/affect/
<24> brif8: I use zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/linux/.config && makeoldconfig to start configuring a new kernel using one that works.
<13> Dion: hopefully, it's scd0 or similar (scsi has different device nodes for cdroms vs hdds)
<2> Fieldy, sure :) Perhaps you can shed some light on why Gentoo takes 4hours to install and Ubuntu only one? with the same specs and gentoo with less packages to isntall? I just don't get it :(
<13> styleuk: are you installing ubuntu from source?
<0> that would be interesting ;-)
<25> styleuk: gentoo is from source. ubuntu is binary.
<11> styleuk: gentoo compiles from source, ubuntu is binary. two different ballgames.
<13> ubuntu is a binary distro isn't it?
<12> styleuk: Gentoo compiles from source code, so the code is customized for your machine. Ubuntu is unpacking one-size-fits-all binary packages.
<2> Does gentoo come in the binary flavour? and if not why not?
<11> and while discussion about various distros is a good thing, let's be mindful of not turning it into a flame fest :)
<26> hi room
<22> _AxS_: it is... its based on debian
<11> styleuk: no, gentoo is a from source distro. while a small number of things can be gotten in binary, gentoo is a source based distro.
<24> Dion: dmesg | grep hd && dmesg | grep sd
<2> Fieldy, why?
<13> the entire point of gentoo is that its a source distro.. the whole thing evolves around 'portage' which is essentially a set of instructions on how to build packages.
<0> styleuk, because it's not practical to have a net-dependent per-machine-customized binary distribution
<12> styleuk: YOu'd have to find someone with the exact same hardware, use flags, and libraries to share binaries with.
<17> _AxS_ give me a minute to get the Raid loaded and I'll check if hardened has the veasfb-tng or not if not then I'll go to gentoo-sources
<11> styleuk: that's like asking why the sky is blue. gentoo compiles from source because that's the way gentoo is.
<13> brif8: cool
<0> styleuk, by the way, I can install a working Gentoo system in under an hour.
<2> Why? Alright, umm perhaps I should stop there if i want to get to sleep later tonight
<2> kojiro, how?
<26> i'm about to install gentoo on my laptop, should i use reiserfs or ext3?
<13> styleuk: the advantage of this is that when you install something, you bould whatever version you want against whatever libs and dependencies and other packages that you have. instead of having to, say, upgrade your entire system when you want to get a bunch of new things.
<0> styleuk, familiarity
<23> nanobanshee:only messages abount the three other hd* devices, nothing about the external one
<13> anchorman: do you like reiserfs? if not use ext3
<11> anchorman: either one will work out fine for you.
<0> anchorman, um, reiserfs is actually fairly well suited for a laptop, IMO
<2> Okay now I'm confused, how long before I understand it all? :P
<13> styleuk: maybe another week
<12> _AxS_: Or worse: Avoid upgrading and suffer the bugs and security holes.
<0> styleuk, probably if you go to sleep you'll understand it better in the morning
<27> I guess I'd read up on the advantages and disadvantages of reiserfs, then of ext3, then I'd flip a coin.
<13> YES. i was stuck in debian for soo bloody long because of that with my laptop..
<2> It's funny, when I installed Ubuntu, I learn't nothing, but when I install Gentoo, I learn loads of things :(
<2> and it just gets worse
<26> i've heard a lot of things bout the ups and downs of each
<24> Dion: that bootup message is from the BIOS or from the linux kernel? chances are, you need to configure your kernel to use it. if it is usb, then you will at least need usb-storage support.
<26> what is the diffrence really
<12> _AxS_: I had to add some new services to a RedHat box that was way old. I gave up and replaced it with a Gentoo box. Now it will never be out of date.
<13> anchorman: its like the difference of ext3 and ntfs -- they're completely different filesystems
<24> styleuk: worse?
<26> praticly and functional what are the diffrences
<13> nanobanshee: ignorance is bliss, right.. :)
<2> nanobanshee, yes, worse, perhaps I don't want to understand it too much :P
<24> styleuk: what you don't understand will break and crash on you when you least want it to.
<28> Hey, I wanted to buy a Gentoo shirt but the cafepress.com one doesn't work -- is there a place any of you know that sells them for under $20?
<13> anchorman: you gotta read a benchmark comparison to get that.. lots of ppl say reiserfs is way faster, but ext3 is plenty speedy and IMO more stable
<12> styleuk: Nothing wrong with learning. After a bunch of it, you can do more.
<0> anchorman, reiser works better with many small files, ext3 works better with a few large ones
<29> If you want to mount a directory over nfs and that directory has a space in it, how do you specify the space in the fstab?
<2> for a start i think the biggest quetsion is why in / you have loads of dir's like usr, var, etc and then inside them the same things, but different like a lib inside /usr :X
<30> kojiro : what if you have a ton of large files?
<13> Inv1s1ble: '\ ' ?
<28> Punkcut: I suggest using ext3 with b-tree support.
<26> is there a working reiserfs driver for windows?
<2> probably confused it all, but i know wat I mean sort of lol and i hope you do too
<31> to use a different kernel, i can just relink linux to the kernels athat are in /usr/src. is that correct?
<30> Introvert : for like 1.5TB of images and 4.5GB files?
<32> Punkcut, xfs
<24> styleuk: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
<30> ack too much stuff coming at me
<12> Introvert: YOu could get some printable iron-on transfer material, and print a Gentoo logo on it, and iron it on to a plain T-Shirt.
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