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<0> the best way I know of writing to ntfs drives is using vmware
<1> id
<2> kcbanner: if its a data drive (ie windows isn't installed on it) id recommend turning it into a vfat (fat32) partition instead of ntfs. you'll have to backup the data from it, but that'll let you read/write stable-ly from both.
<3> Draconx: second best i think. best is dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/(NTFSPARTITION)
<0> SimAtWork, lol
<4> sfx_, You didn't use emerge = did you ?
<5> NeddySeagoon: Well, I do have a "media computer" with a neat HDD (With NTFS), but then, how would I transfer the data to it? Sorry for asking a question that might be dumb, but I have never really transferred anything between computers on linux (Except for using an ftp server on the recieving computer)
<0> SimAtWork, yeah I deleted my NTFS partitions a long time ago :P
<6> SimAtWork, You're nicer than I am. :) (shred -v /dev/(NTFSPARTITION) )
<5> _AxS_: Guess that stuff I just wrote goes to you too
<7> NeddySeagoon: no.. i used "emerge -u kde"
<3> hlieberman: lol. not worth the processing power though!
<8> The best way to write to ntfs is using an intermediate fat32 partition / drive
<8> or via samba and a networked windows box.
<9> can someone help me? package faad2 is blocking my emerge update, i'm not sure how to fix it
<2> allievo: set a root p***word in the livecd environ, start sshd, then use 'pscp' (putty scp) to xfer the files



<6> SimAtWork, Eh. It sure makes a statement though.
<0> murph_, that method requires a windows box
<10> hi, i have no sound under enlightenment dr16, i have working alsa, and i think i've configured esound accordingly but not certain
<3> erukian: i had the same problem. i unmerged faad2, emerged my other stuff, then emerged faad2 again. it worked.
<3> erukian: i think ther is a bug though.
<0> windows consumes valuable disk space
<3> hlieberman: very true :)
<2> allievo: that'll work right now, as is. you could also start up an ftp server on the windows box and push the data to it from linux
<8> draconx, why write to ntfs without one? Maybe you can borrow one!
<5> _AxS_: OK, I will give that a try. If I don't get it (Stupid as I am sometimes ;P), I guess I'll be back! :)
<4> allievo, ftp is an option, scp another but that needs a scp server at one end or the other (free with linux) are we talking linux to linux or linux to Windows (or vice vesa) s
<11> I just emerged firefox 1.5 .. i know its masked but anyone using it good? this is whats happening to me the about:plugins and about:config is messed up: http://68.202.182.60/mozilla-about-config-plugin-err.png
<0> murph_, hence the vmware. While it doesn't solve the disk space issue you don't need much
<2> allievo: 'pscp -r root@ip:/mnt/gentoo/ .' will get everything. it won't be fast, but it'll do it.
<7> NeddySeagoon: what do you think about revdep-rebuild ?
<5> NeddySeagoon: I would love to learn both!
<4> sfx_, It does what it can, it not perfect but its better than you working it all out
<5> _AxS_: Hm, ok
<4> allievo, what OS is on the PC where you want to put the data ?
<3> stealth: i've had no problems with FF 1.5 but i use it very rarely. I preffer konq now.
<5> NeddySeagoon: Laptop (Some stuff) uses linux, and the other uses windows
<11> SinRed, konq dosent randomly crash on you? specificaly sites like... myspace.com
<7> NeddySeagoon: after revdep-rebuild finish,i will compile again 3.5.2 is it true ?
<4> sfx_, yes
<7> NeddySeagoon: OK
<4> allievo, where is the empty space you will use ? In Linux or Windoes ?
<5> NeddySeagoon: But I guess I will move most stuff to the windows one, so if you're explaining only one, then I'd choose to hear the linux->windows version :)
<12> how do I emerge a ebuild from file?
<12> Calculating dependencies
<12> *** /usr/portage/wine-cvs/wine-cvs/wine-cvs-0.9.ebuild is not in a valid PORTDIR heirarchy or does not exist
<5> NeddySeagoon: As I described above (Maybe too vague), I would like to move things to both linux and windows. But as I just stated, you could go for the linux->windows transfer
<0> kcbanner, use a portage overlay
<12> please explain :D
<2> NeddySeagoon: his free space is on windows right now
<3> allievo: on a single pc, right?
<4> allievo, on the liveCD, start sshd /etc/init.d/ssh.d start on the Windows box, get pscp, its a free downlaod. _AxS_ has told you the command you need
<3> i haven't used pscp yet. is it good?
<3> i've been using winscp
<7> /etc/init.d/sshd start *
<3> i've found it works great.
<0> kcbanner, i.e. set PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" in your /etc/make.conf, then you make a category directory, and an ebuild directory, put your ebuild in there. Then just emerge normally
<13> pscp works fine
<4> allievo, pscp can copy over the network from one PC to the other
<5> NeddySeagoon: Thanks
<4> allievo, you give the commands at the Windows end
<13> although the first time I used pscp I found out cmd.exe doesn't support bash completion ;-D
<3> winscp is gui
<2> does sftp need anything on the server side? just sshd right?
<5> NeddySeagoon: Yeah :)
<4> SimAtWork, thats for softies :)
<14> http://pastebin.com/646402 any ideas? :(
<2> hehe
<3> well, it needs sftp. but that's usually (if not always) installed with sshd!
<4> _AxS_, just sshd
<3> NeddySeagoon: perhaps. but windows terminal is so terrible anyhow.
<2> cool
<2> sirpreis: ..no idea... re-emerge evolution?
<14> i'll try, but that one has been re-emerged a couple of times the last couple of days :D
<2> probably not that then...
<2> ..does this thing need evolution? maybe you can turn it off with a use flag and get past the error..?
<5> _AxS_: It can't find pscp, and there seems to be no ebuild for it either. What gives?



<2> pscp is for the windows box
<3> lol
<5> _AxS_: doh, sorry
<5> Thought that was winscp, and that pscp was for linux :P
<2> in the linux box just start sshd: /etc/init.d/sshd start
<3> allievo: winscp and pscp serve the same function.
<2> ..and set your root p***word
<15> I don't want to scroll back, are you looking for a good SSH client for windows?
<5> _AxS_: Yeah, but I have a livecd at my main computer, linux at this laptop (Which I want to transfer some things to), and windows on another computer (Where the majority will go). That's why I tried using pscp under linux
<5> Flatline-kun: No, I want to transfer files between two linux boxes
<5> Flatline-kun: And um, linux->windows too
<0> why not just use samba//nfs?
<2> allievo: ahh -- in linux its just 'scp' but the same command-line options..
<2> Draconx: his source is a livecd i don't think there's enough space to emerge samba on that
<16> allievo: There is also rsync
<0> _AxS_, ah
<2> ah yes, rsync is possible too
<5> _AxS_: Ah, ok! Thank you very much! :) Another question though, can I access the local drives when I'm in an SSH'd environment?
<15> allievo: For linux->windows, you can use SSH Secure Shell. It allows SSH Terminals and File Transfers. And it's free.
<17> uhm here is a jre question, which jre should i use for emerge,1.4 or 1.5?
<2> allievo: not directly no
<5> _AxS_: ok
<15> allievo: and if you're using the livecd you can still run /etc/init.d/sshd
<5> Flatline-kun: ok, well the others told me about pscp (Which seems to have the same functions as scp (Which I'm about to get used to soon)), so I'd actually rather try that out first. But thank you for your submission! :)
<16> allievo: And shfs
<5> DrChandra: oh, yet another tool :)
<2> (p)scp is really easy to use.. scp -r source dest; -r is recursive, and if source or dest is a foreign computer, use 'user@ip:' in front of the path
<11> http://pastebin.com/646418
<11> argh.. uhh yea i get that when startiing qtorrent :-D
<12> Is there an easy way to convert NTFS to FAT without windows even knowing
<12> :D
<16> kcbanner: Why would you want to?
<2> elsvent: i believe you gotta keep 1.4 around for some things because 1.5 isn't completely backwards-compatible...
<2> elsvent: si if you just want one, go with 1.4 i guess
<12> I have a NTFS data partition for my windows...now I want to just run linux but boot into windows occasionly
<18> anyone using gaim ?
<12> I would like my music in one place
<12> ^ZEON: i am
<2> kcbanner: windows won't care if its ntfs or fat, but i don't know of a way to convert ntfs to fat with files-in-place.
<16> kcbanner: So, mount the NTFS partition in Linux.
<11> i use a ext3 driver for windows.. although i havent used windows in a few months for that...screw fat32
<19> you can convert fat to ntfs but not the other way around
<12> DrChandra: I have been unsuccesful.
<2> DrChandra: he wants to be able to write to the partition freely, too
<18> kcbanner: well is ur gaim crashing send when u are about to send a message ?
<12> zeon: it crashs when I close buddy list
<12> but it works fine :D
<16> kcbanner: Use a 2.6.15 kernel or better, and select the new NTFS support with read-write capability.
<2> ooh -- that's new, haven't heard about that...
<17> _AxS_, ok thanks
<18> kcbanner: ufff.. i man totally frustrated.. it crashes as soon as u type in a message and press enter... i tried to debug the beast.. but it comes from such a place... itz hard to debug
<16> If you don't have a reason to recompile your kernel, you're not trying hard enough.
<20> should my emerge's be getting logged in dead.letter? or do i have something messed up?
<7> woowww kde and X are workingg !!!
<7> :D
<7> but some apps aren't working :)
<18> anyone facing problems with GAIM ?
<7> i'm doing revdep-rebuild now :)
<17> _AxS_, so i emerge -e world with 1.5 and faild,and i use emerge --resume with 1.4, and still get error
<17> _AxS_, so i should emerge -e world with 1.4 again?
<2> elsvent: what are you trying to emerge?
<2> ie, what's failing?
<4> DrChandra, How complete it NTFS R/W support in 2.6.16 ?
<17> _AxS_, like some library about jspservlet
<18> DrChandra: hey, does 2.6.16 support NTFS R/W ?
<2> elsvent: what application wants it?
<16> NeddySeagoon: I don't really know. I saw it new in 2.6.15, and never actually tried it. I ***ume the developer intend that it works.
<12> It can read and only write to files that already exist I thought
<16> ^zeon^: I haven't looked. I can't imagine why they would remove it.
<17> _AxS_, commonxxxxx,somewhat i forgot it
<2> I thought ntfs-rw support was still only stable for write-in-place stuff -- changing filesystem size, making new files, deleting old, etc. would stull fux0r the partition...?
<21> someone know what the iptable or ipchain rules i would need to set up a real simple gateway?
<18> DrChandra: well i have been seeing that R/W support in 2.6.15 and also enabled it.. but still it can't write to my NTFS partition !!? wots goin on ?


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