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<0> i686...3.4.5
<1> sash no that not it i want to open wine up
<2> DrChandra, I ran revdep-rebuild, build everything it wanted ... and GNOME was still broken to the point where it wouldn't start. It did do a random order build though
<3> smg_: YOu changed your CHOST, didn't you?
<0> DrChandra: no I did not change my CHOST
<1> sash the wine application
<4> exodiatrue: wine has no gui or something. just use "wine <exe>"
<1> it self
<4> wine is just a loader for the exe file
<1> ok
<2> DrChandra, nope, smg_ didn't we've already been there
<3> smg_: OK, gcc-config, and select the first i686 option.
<3> NeddySeagoon: You went around with him on this?
<4> well, its a bit more than that...
<0> DrChandra: done
<2> DrChandra, yes
<0> and binutils is now also i686
<1> sash let say i want to install mozilla for windows how do i drag it or install it using wine
<3> fix_libtool_files.sh?
<0> DrChandra: the exact command?
<3> smg_: nm. What command do you run that causes that?
<0> emerge -va XML-Parser
<3> NeddySeagoon: I changed my CHOST, and went through all this.
<4> exodiatrue: you download the windows installer exe, open a shell and run wine <name of installer> after that is finsished you should get an icon on your gnome/kde desktop for quickstarting it
<0> I wanted to emerge firefox but it needs XML-Parser
<0> DrChandra: through what?
<2> DrChandra, its a new stage 3 - otherwise untouched
<3> smg_: Through getting rid of all the i386 references from the system, mostly having to do with toolchain references like the gcc-config one.
<0> mh
<0> DrChandra: i'm doing atm the emerge -vae gcc
<0> and in some time its done and gcc will be done
<5> wait
<3> smg_: YOu have a runnable i686 gcc though, don't you?
<0> yep
<3> smg_: THen that emerge won't help.
<0> http://phpfi.com/111341
<0> check that
<0> DrChandra: can You give me some help
<5> smg_: which gcc did you rebuild perl with ?
<0> I did not rebuild perl since stage3
<0> I just upgraded gcc from 3.4.4 to 3.4.5-r1
<3> smg_: Emerge perl. That's one of th packages that retains CHOST info. Whoever compiled the Stage 3 probably had CHOST=i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc when they emerged perl.
<0> okay
<0> so I now emerge -e perl and hope it works?
<6> hey anyone know what package provides the solaris binary rup?
<3> smg_: No, just emerge perl. Save the -e stuff until you have a solid toolchain.
<0> or will be eemerge -va perl enough?
<0> ok
<5> smg_: just emerge -av1 perl
<0> k
<0> I will do and give you a report if its done
<3> smg_: What do you mean "if"? :)
<6> does anyone know where rup is? debian package is called rstat-client
<7> is there something like sudo but for other users too? i mean im in a root enviroment and i want to execute something as another regular user
<6> psofa: su - <user> -c
<3> smg_: Try to be a little patient, too. No need to get all chatty and spew scrollage. YOu'll find that the better helpers take time to answer, because they are checking what they are saying.
<8> how do i make a package not get auto-cleaned?'
<0> DrChandra: I mean if I emerged perl You know
<0> DrChandra: then I will tell You if it worked :)
<3> smg_: Sure.
<6> Liquid_Fire: FEATURES="noclean" i believe
<0> maybe You can help me then again
<0> i'm a bit sad atm
<9> Liquid_Fire: FEATURES="everything you normally use minus whatever the autoclean option is" emerge whatever
<5> smg_: chocolate
<3> smg_: Yeah, and you're getting scrolly again.
<0> DrChandra: okay I dont know what scrolly is but I wont be in future :/ btw. do I need to rebild libperl?
<6> LSD`: ... i am pretty sure you just need to use FEATURES="noclean"
<8> shimmmy, LSD`: thanks
<9> shimmmy: will that nuke everything else as well?
<6> LSD`: ... no i am pretty sure the env vars just get appended to the systems vars...
<3> smg_: Scrolly is when you type a couple of words, and hit return, a couple more, return, putting one thought into four or five lines. AOL-ers tend to do that a lot. It makes it hard to follow a conversation in a busy channel.
<3> smg_: No, I don't think libperl is needed.
<10> hi, i am trying to configure a xen-kernel - but it interrupts telling me a makefile is missing
<10> anyone can help ? perhaps something is different in gentoo to other xen-kernels
<11> hi everyone, how can I check the messages that get printed out after a compile of a package without recompiling it?
<12> ghost, grep einfo /path/to/ebuild
<11> thanks kojiro
<13> ghost: enabling logging is useful too
<12> ghost, also, grep ewarn ...\
<11> is there not a more succient way though, without specifically looking into an ebuild, using equery or something similar?
<14> what temporary folders does Portage use (i.e. which ones can I clean)?
<4> ghost: use gentoo.linuxhowtos.org's browse portage feature, it displays the ebuild warnings
<4> tibbe: /var/tmp/portage can be cleaned without any problems.
<14> Sash, Is that the .tar.gz files?
<14> for ebuilds
<11> I was thinking an "ebuild postinst" would be right, but then noticed that some ebuilds do more than just display info during the postinst
<12> tibbe, no, you're talking about /usr/portage/distfiles
<12> ghost, yep :-(
<4> tibbe and you can use eclean for /usr/portage/distfiles
<14> Sash, ah, thanks
<11> wow, didn't know about eclean :)
<4> ghost: its quite new :)
<9> it's about time gentoo made something like that though, it's only like 5 years overdue
<4> yeah. that true.
<11> yeah, I'm a gentoo enthusiast from about 3 years ago, got out of it cause of other work
<12> almost everything in portage fits the "about time" bill to some degree or another
<12> "it's about time linux had a good package manager"
<15> HAHAhHahaha
<15> i just unmerged GCC :D
<4> MartinFC: bad idea
<15> and now can't emerge it again
<12> well... yeah
<9> kojiro: but users of any distro think there package manager is the best
<3> MartinFC: livecd, chroot, and emerge it again.
<15> i think its time for the live cd
<15> :D
<2> MartinFC, You need a binary
<2> DrChandra, without gcc ?
<9> kojiro: ever seen how Slackware users think no dependency tracking and having to maintain a local archive of the *whole* slack repository to update is better than automatic systems like portage or even apt-get?
<12> doesn't avenj have a stash of emergency gcc bins?
<3> NeddySeagoon: Doesn't the livecd have gcc? How do installs take place?
<15> redo the stage3 :d
<16> emaint --check world gives me "'/grip' is not installed"
<16> what does it mean ?
<12> LSD`, I ignore the ravings of slackware users :-P
<2> DrChandra, its in the tarball
<4> DrChandra: you unpack a whole minimal system
<17> kojiro: dev.gentoo.org/~avenj/bins
<17> may be a bit stale actually
<12> LSD`, debian users have a good argument, but bad attitude
<17> not sure
<3> Yes, guys, I know.
<12> MartinFC, see what avenj just posted to me above ^^
<15> oh
<15> just redoing the stage 3 though
<2> MartinFC, You need a binary for your arch ... what arch is it ?
<15> amd64
<9> kojiro: apt-get at least had an option to clear out stale packages ;)
<3> That's a hole int he system IMHO. The livecd should have a basic toolchain to support emerges.
<12> LSD`, mostly kidding, I just enjoy the bizarre rivalry between #gentoo and #debian
<2> MartinFC, ask if someone can quickpkg an amd64 gcc and put it on the web. I'm x86
<9> DrChandra: no, users should have the sense not to do stupid things like emerge -C gcc :P
<15> i knoiw
<3> kojiro: I don't see a rivalry on #gentoo's part.
<15> i was trying to get GCC-3.3 trying to get maya to work you see
<4> doesn't emerge compain (more than usual) if you try to unmerge a package out of the system meta package?
<2> kojiro, Whats Debian ?
<12> DrChandra, well, I don't want to get into it since it's not really on-topic :-)
<15> Sash, yes
<15> it gives you 10 seconds
<15> :p
<12> NeddySeagoon, Debby-Ann? she's a girl I used to date in college
<3> LSD`: Yes, they should have better sense, but the livecd should be a toolbox, as well. Repairing your toolchain should not mean unpacking the whole Stage 3 again. Maybe just unpack a toolchain tarball.
<2> kojiro, :)
<9> DrChandra: maybe a more officel - and more frequently updated - version of what avenj maintains is in order?
<12> DrChandra, it shouldn't be too hard to build a repair-toolchain script if there's a mirror of toolchain bins like dev.gentoo.org/~avenj/bins somewhere. The script can use make.conf to pick the right binary, right?
<3> LSD`: I'm unfamiliar.
<18> How to change the K button into Gentoo button at Pannel?
<3> kojiro: OK.
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