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Comments:
<0> vienessewaltzer: Your root is not mounted
<1> Just chroot /usr/bin/emacs and be done with it.
<2> vienessewaltzer, I suggest you to follow the cli installer, indeed, the gentoo handbook
<3> DrChandra: that's jacked up lmao
<4> damn it, somthing else Im emerging, (can't even remember what it is now) is grabbing kde despite me putting -kde in the make.conf use= section
<1> [work]ChrisWhite: YOu should try the kernel arg "init=/usr/bin/emacs". It works.
<3> DrChandra: haha, are you serious
<1> [work]ChrisWhite: Of course.
<5> real mans shell
<4> something must be wrong with my ssytem. I better go back and reread the handbook section on portage
<2> vienessewaltzer, something failed with grub, and you have no clue why it failed, sounds very strange to me
<6> is it posible to get vesafb to use 1200x800 as resolution?
<7> how much experience w/ some form of programming would it take to be able to contribute to "the gentoo community"?
<5> Shirakawasuna: 0
<8> Spruit_elf: if its vesafb-tng, sure
<7> noice
<0> Spruit_elf: yes - you need a modeline
<4> Shirakawasuna: none,
<7> what I mean is, I want to learn a language for the heck of it
<9> dli well i'm pretty sure it has something to do with me trying to update and then stopping it halfway in between
<4> Shirakawasuna: make a donation ;)
<6> _AxS_: can't use vesafb-tng, im on 64 bit
<3> Shirakawasuna: python is what portage uses
<5> Shirakawasuna: and you want a recommendation?
<3> Shirakawasuna: but I consider portage a sub language :p
<7> so how experienced would I need to be with X language to be useful?
<6> _AxS_: i need the vga line
<8> Spruit_elf: oh.. you gotta find a hex code to set vga= to then
<10> Ok
<7> antarus: basically, yes
<1> [work]ChrisWhite: All init does it what /etc/inittab tells it to do. Otherwise, it's just like any other process. It calls fork() like anything else that wants to fork another process.
<7> antarus: I might start with a standard like java or C++, but then after that I'd like to go with the best one for the goal described above
<4> Shirakawasuna: how about enough to understand the code of/in the program you want to mutilate and improve if its a software contribution you're referring to
<6> _AxS_: yes, 1024,768 works fine, however i want to use 1200x800 but cant find the hex code
<5> Shirakawasuna: We have packages for almost every language in the tree...
<9> dli when I run setup hd0 it says "Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists...no" and checking if "/grub/stage1" exists...no" and error 15 file not found
<5> Shirakawasuna: langauges aren't important
<8> Spruit_elf: i think in /usr/src/linux/Documentation there's info on vesafb and how to calculate the hex code
<0> Spruit_elf: In framebuffer ... thats harder 1200x800 is not a VESA standard resolution
<7> antarus: no?
<5> Shirakawasuna: I'd be more concerned with what you know ABOUT programming
<10> all i found is for toshiba tecra
<10> nothing about toshiba satellite
<7> antarus: you mean about the similarities between languages....or more like...the organization?
<5> Shirakawasuna: Given a problem, solve it language independently, using psuedo code
<7> antarus: ah.
<5> then translate psuedocode to $language_of_choice
<7> antarus: I'm planning on teaching myself, so that could take a while :)
<11> familiarity with libraries is the hard part, not languages
<12> Okay, I have a slight problem... openmotif wants /usr/portage/x11-libs/openmotif/files/openmotif-2.2.3-CAN-2004-0914-newer.patch.bz2... and it's not there. I just 'emerge --sync'd.
<9> dli when I run setup hd0 it says "Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists...no" and checking if "/grub/stage1" exists...no" and error 15 file not found
<9> dli what does that mean?
<8> vienessewaltzer: did you mount your /boot after you chrooted?
<13> is 14.889 frames in glxgears good?
<1> [work]ChrisWhite: YOu could tell the kernel init=/usr/bin/make, and put a Makefile in / with make targets that accomplish everything in /etc/inittab. It would work.
<14> smarcow: not really
<9> axs i'm pretty sure
<6> NeddySeagoon: yes, is there a way to get the vesa mode number, or something that forces vesafb into 1200x800
<8> vienessewaltzer: 'ls /boot/grub/*'
<9> axs i guess i'll try everything over again
<14> smarcow: what video card are you using?
<13> and why would 3ddesktop say "enable hardware acceleration" when glxgears works fine?
<7> antarus: thanks. So what you're saying is I should just practice with language X and Z until I'm familiar enough with them and how they're implemented to see how it should all fit together?
<7> antarus: etc
<13> Gridmark, ati rage mobility and glxgears running fullscreen
<9> axs when I run ls /boot/grub/* it shows a bunch of files
<8> vienessewaltzer: hmm. is one of them 'stage1' ?
<14> smarcow: do you have the ati drivers and fglrx installed?
<9> axs yes but on the left it shows /boot/grub/reiserfs_stage1_5 and i don't have a reiserfs partition anymore...
<13> Gridmark, heh no :)
<13> Gridmark, not sure it would support that card :)
<8> that's fine its not for a reiserfs partition, its a support fie for grub
<8> s/fie/file/
<8> vienessewaltzer: ok, so 'mount |grep boot'
<8> does that show anything?
<9> axs no
<8> ok..
<14> ohh
<14> rage
<14> ermm, shouldnt be too bad
<8> vienessewaltzer: ls /boot , do you have kernel sources there?
<14> that sounds about right for that card
<5> Shirakawasuna: I guess the best advice is to have decent problem solving skills, and to know the basic constructs that you can use to solve problems, and the benefits and drawbacks
<9> axs no
<8> err, not sources, kernel images?
<14> not like your going to be hardcore gaming on that thing
<8> vienessewaltzer: ok.
<7> antarus: thanks
<8> vienessewaltzer: so 'ls /boot' just shows a grub subdir?
<5> Shirakawasuna: All programmers essentially have the same toolkit to draw from, you need to learn to apply that toolkit creatively to solve problems ;p
<5> which sounds really corny
<7> antarus: I'll be sure to come back and bother you with the most mundane questions about programming :) (j/k)
<9> hello?
<13> Gridmark, last version of doom i played was doom 2 :)
<8> vienessewaltzer: hello?
<9> ok ummm /boot should be my hda4 right?
<13> s/last version of doom/last game
<8> vienessewaltzer: it should, but its not mounted
<8> vienessewaltzer: BUT grub is installed in there anyways
<5> The best example I can give is that the linux kernel is basically a bunch of hash tables and linked lists, as far as data is concerned, nothing is ever that complicated, merely badly described or badly implemented ;)
<9> axs even if i had just made the partition and made it as a root partition
<9> ?
<14> smarcow: hehe, I think your good
<13> is a core-dup setup like a smp system? i need to know that because in 12 months ill be able to afford one.
<14> smarcow: my brain saw ati r* and filled in radeon
<13> core-duo*
<14> a dual core?
<14> good question, I think so
<13> Gridmark, yeah, the pentium-m dualcore
<14> but i don't know for sure
<9> axs if i were to clear the mbr would that effect any of my partitions?
<9> axs like a windows partition?
<13> Gridmark, i will idle here until i buy a thinkpad x60s then
<15> DCC SEND kfdsjkfklafjksdkfssjkfsjkl
<14> ooh
<7> antarus: ok. So once I've figured out how to write simple programs, etc, how would I advance my skills, exactly?
<14> i want one of those
<16> Jesus.
<12> openmotif wants /usr/portage/x11-libs/openmotif/files/openmotif-2.2.3-CAN-2004-0914-newer.patch.bz2... the file isn't there (nor is there a non-bzipped version). Anyone want to help me with this?
<13> Gridmark, me too me too !!!
<5> a bit slow :/
<5> where is that bot when we need it
<14> smarcow: but i'm much more interested in the dual core athlon64 systems
<13> so these guys were all running norton?
<9> axs are you there?
<13> Gridmark, for a laptop?? better not
<17> Krillancello: have you tried the good 'ol emerge --sync ?
<8> vienessewaltzer: one sec (phone)
<14> nah, not a laptop
<5> smarcow: nope, different exploit
<9> axs alright
<12> rabidfurby: A couple times in the last hour or so, the latter being maybe 20 minutes ago. No dice.
<7> antarus: I guess what I mean is, how will I know that it's ok for me to modify a package/program and submit the fix/addition?
<5> dsd_: suggest connecting to freenode on 8001
<13> dsd_, what did they exploit to crash you?
<5> Shirakawasuna: you try ;)
<5> smarcow: router
<13> oh...
<6> how can i find out the supported video modes for my monitor?
<18> dcc requests crashing routers? poor world
<13> didnt know routers are that vulnerable
<7> antarus: ah. I'll be the annoying submitter who adds more problems to a program than he fixes :)
<13> Spruit_elf, its in the manual
<5> Shirakawasuna: join the club
<5> smarcow: eh, everything has problems
<5> nowhere is safe!
<7> antarus: cool, I think I have a fairly good idea now. Thanks!
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