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<0> AllenJB: Well, one of the things that are bad about portage is the time it takes to calculate deps
<1> evilgod: what pango thing?
<2> evilgod: did you have the problem where it would hang at loading the kernel?
<3> TFKyle: x11-libs/pango
<3> It fails.
<0> AllenJB: keeping the worldfile trim is a workaround
<3> ej_13: Nope.
<2> evilgod: lucky.
<1> evilgod: whats the error?
<3> ej_13: pfft, I use 2.6.16-r9 on two completely different boxes
<4> chaosite: There's an easy way to solve that problem: Stop watching it!
<3> TFKyle: hold on, getting to that point soon
<5> hey all -- quick question, what format is the timestamp # in the emerge.log? ie, how would i convert that to a human-readable date?
<6> _AxS_: you mean besides genlop?
<3> Writing a pango.modules file to use with tests/examples.
<3> /var/tmp/portage/pango-1.12.2/work/pango-1.12.2/pango/.libs/lt-pango-querymodules: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
<5> kojiro: yeah besides genlop
<3> make[3]: *** [pango.modules] Error 127
<3> If you want the call stack, just ask
<1> _AxS_: its a timestamp in localtime, easy way to get a datetime object for it in python is import datetime; datetime.datetime.fromtimestamp(int(string))
<5> is the number just seconds from 1980-01-01?
<4> chaosite: And wouldn't that be off-set by the time you spend emerging packages you don't need anyway?
<1> (I think its localtime, not utc anyway)
<1> _AxS_: 1970
<7> 1970
<5> cool tnx
<3> ZE UNIX EPOCH!
<3> Now back to my problem with pango :\
<6> _AxS_: I was trying to figure it out from genlop's source code, but if TFKyle knows already, I'll give up
<1> evilgod: are you using ccache
<1> *?
<2> how do i disable acpi in the kernel. what is it listed under?
<6> ej_13: power management something something?
<8> No, Unix time is always UTC. It is interpreted using the timezone setting.
<3> TFKyle: thinking as I don't know what it is, nope :-P
<1> kojiro: I wrote an ugly emerge.log parser a little while ago, thats probably the only reason I know
<1> evilgod: you updated to expat 2.0 a while ago right?
<3> TFKyle: I don't really know
<1> evilgod: emerge -pv expat, check the version
<3> 2.0
<9> i am using gentoo on amd64 . Programs versions is proftpd-1.2.10-r7 gcc-3.4.6-r1 gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r7 . in my logs i see alot of "cap_set_proc failed: Operation not permitted_ ; attempt to configure capabilities failed, reverting to normal operation_" any idea,fix ?
<10> evilgod, revdep-rebuild
<3> (.0)
<3> roger55: no parameters?
<10> evilgod, --pretend if you want to look first
<1> evilgod: revdep-rebuild -X --library=libexpat.so.0
<10> or what TFKyle said
<11> When do you expect Gentoo 2006.1?
<12> lapator: #gentoo-amd64 or #gentoo-server might be worth asking, too
<1> or just do as roger says, personally revdep-rebuild with no args didn't find the expat breakage here, though that was probably because of a patch I applied to make revdep-rebuild not **** on machines with more than 2000 packages
<9> Fieldy~ ok..
<10> drslony, later this year
<12> who knows. doesn't really matter, install with 2006.0 and update. there is no point in waiting for 2006.1
<11> roger55: with modular X I ***ume?
<11> YEah, just curious
<12> you can get that now
<0> AllenJB: I don't care about the time it takes to emerge packages
<10> drslony, if it is stable when the snapshot is done, yes.
<0> AllenJB: I'm not on the computer at the time
<12> if modular is stable yeah, otherwise, no
<11> I am installing it at this very moment :]
<11> How long does making a snapshot take?
<0> AllenJB: I like to run emerge with --ask and see what I'm emerging, first, though, so that time does matter to me as I need to make a choice after its done calculating deps
<1> drslony: a snapshot of what?
<12> drslony: don't feel you have to wait for 2006.1 though, it's not like other distros, the install is just a starting point. you then update to current as part of the install.
<11> Of a gentoo livecd release
<1> oh, could take a while
<13> could someone suggest to me a really good snes/nes cooperative game? me and my friend are looking for something fun to play... a bit offtopic though but :P
<11> yeah but Im interested in how long it will take from the moment the decision is made to make a snapshot for a livecd to the moment it will be ready for release
<3> Heh, I got a 2004.1 CD right here :P The thing plastic is gettin yellow-ish :D
<14> Does anyone know how to emerge wine without NPTL?
<1> since releng has to make sure there are no breakages and such, also theres the occasional circular dep problem which causes building stage tarballs to be painful
<15> Mizipzor: iirc, Secret of Mana was nice in coop
<10> drslony, that doesn't take time, you just pick a day and use the snapshot of the portage tree of that day.
<11> oho
<3> arrummzen_: you have to block glibc-2.4 and above
<3> YES! Thank you a lot, roger55 and TFKyle! It compiled!
<12> :D
<14> evilgod: so I can't just emerge a non NPTL version along side my NPTL version?
<13> afm\colossus, hmm i played that just a few hours ago... although it was just for half an hour or something but I dont recall any coop... is it introduced later in the game or something?
<10> drslony, of course there can be fixes to that snapshot while the release is built.
<1> evilgod: np, its what we superhero's do :P
<16> I have x11 and fluxbox installed. Can I have two users logged in on a graphic env?
<3> arrummzen_: I didn't dig too deep into it, but 2.4 wants nptl even if you tell it not to use it
<3> TFKyle: ;)
<1> ErZo: yep, just start another x session (startx -- :1 or something)
<15> Mizipzor: there are 3 chars or so in the game, if i recall correctly me and my cousins used to play them cooperatively
<11> Most interesting
<16> TFKyle: It says it can't :o
<13> afm\colossus, ah... i see
<14> evilgod: hmmm.. but... isn't glibc sloted?
<16> TFKyle: It says "one is already active" ..
<17> Uhm, this dude, kinda did emerge -C portage. eventually last night I managed to do the same. How do I recover from such stupidity?
<1> ErZo: or if you are using a DM most (atleast gdm) allow you to start another session using them (with gdm its gdmflexiserver)
<3> arrummzen_: yes, but your new slot will fail to emerge if you don't use a CHOST of i486 or better, which stage3 - AFAIK - doesn't.
<11> 'This dude' ;]
<1> ErZo: maybe you've got an X Server running on :1 already?
<3> however I'm getting late :-\ So I'll see you around and hope XFCE4 is done by the time I come back to my terminal here
<14> evilgod: my CHOST is i686
<18> just done a test... the camera works fine, while the ipod doesn't on the same usb port (on a pci card)... but the ipod works on the usb1.0 port built on the mb
<3> arrummzen_: then it should work, USE flags are nptl and nptlonly, I'm off
<17> drslony: heh, friend of mine did it on his laptop. and he told me about it. and as a result of alcohol, I did it too. :p
<18> any idea?
<19> When upgrading my system, sys-apps/pam-login i blocking sys-apps/shadow. Which one should I keep?
<14> evilgod: I want a no NPTL version...
<8> bjornh-: Maybe boot livecd, chroot, and unpack the stage3 tarball
<14> I have a NPTL version...
<16> TFKyle: Yeah, i got one running alrady :o
<18> the only difference between the camera and the ipod is the number of partitions
<10> johey, /topic
<1> johey: shadow, but be sure to update shadow after unmerging pam-login
<17> DrChandra: don't need the livecd to do that..?
<19> Oh, topic.
<1> ErZo: try another display then, startx -- :2 etc.
<16> oh
<16> thanks, I'll try that. Sorry for my newbishness :P
<8> bjornh-: Yeah, kind of hard to boot from it otherwise.
<10> bjornh-, http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/manually-fixing-portage.xml
<17> DrChandra: just backup all the config files and ****, and replace them after it's done extracting?
<8> bjornh-: Sure.
<20> bjornh-: watch the language please
<21> hi, which packages its for handle multiple ssh pub keys? cant remeber.
<10> bjornh-, don't do what DrChandra said!
<10> bjornh-, follow the guide I just gave you.
<1> pigats: I thought ipod's weren't just normal m*** stoage devices? (since you mentioned partitions thats what I'm ***uming you're saying it is)
<17> doc|work: sorry. is this chan really that sensitive?
<17> roger55: will do.
<20> bjornh-: yep
<6> TFKyle, pigats, the iPod I have appears as a normal USB storage device.
<22> bjornh-, you never know when some kid or grandmother maybe in here
<17> man I'm sitting here laughting at my own stupidity
<17> Distro^Junkie: true.
<1> ah, ok
<23> or "Aunt Millie"(tm)
<1> disregard me then, I've never owned an ipod :)
<6> TFKyle: it opens up a whole new world of things you'll never have time to do ;-D
<24> what's a good graphical transcoder? pref kde based
<1> but geez they are expensive for somone who's unemployed :)
<22> TFKyle, remind me not to try out modular install again
<21> hhi, which packages its for handle multiple ssh pub keys? cant remeber.
<23> kojiro: like canning the Apple firmware and installing Rockbox :)
<1> Distro^Junkie: ran into problems?
<22> TFKyle, yea caled power going out before I could test
<22> called*
<6> when did Firefox/Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 go stable?
<1> Distro^Junkie: you're going to have to try it eventually, eventually monolithic is going to become unsupported and killed from portage
<25> mmh i can open my cd drive with command 'eject' but is there a command to close it?
<22> shhh don't tell me that
<6> Distro^Junkie: version 4, iirc
<1> (though that probably won't be 'till 2007, atleast)
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