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Comments:
<0> axxel: doesn't matter.
<1> axxel: You're about to get silenced.
<2> sure
<3> thanks Redhatter, RiverRat I'll do that, just double checking :)
<4> axxel, I don't care how much alcohol you've drank...
<5> CareBear\ Cybertinus: but isn't that still going to leave 1.0.99 in the system?
<1> metric: On mine it didn't seem to degrade nicely. It took me a few days to get rid of x-1.0.99 and rebuild everything so it all worked.
<6> metric : Dunno.
<2> Redhatter: i'm over at a friends place trying to install because i dont have any network at home, but now it doesn't work.. his dad tried to turn off my computer when it had gone 80% and now it doesn't work.. :(
<7> blackace, i have an NEC burner...but there is no driver for it they've got pioneer...philips, kodac, yamaha, ricoh, sony, teac...
<8> RiverRat, i switched it early in a couple mins
<7> blackace, i tried the generic dvd-r(w) driver and it failed.
<8> earlier
<6> axxel : What had gone 80% ?
<6> axxel : Anyway try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk bs=1024k count=200 but BEWARE that this will kill all data on /dev/disk
<8> RiverRat, the device drivers for x need unmerged then emerging xorg-server-version worked to downgrade
<0> regr***o_damonus: dunno, maybe search for someone else with the same burner
<2> the gentoo livecd installation.. and then his (my friends) dad cancelled it and now it doesn't work
<1> tdr: Well I think it was more than the one package. It seems that I had half modular X and half monolithic with a few packages from 7.1 and it was a mess. I cleaned up all the files in /etc/portage/* and it was better.
<6> axxel : Is there a percentage?
<4> axxel, Idea... how about manually partitioning? Then try the installer again.
<2> well, it's a blue bar
<4> The handbook has the full goss on how to do that.
<6> axxel : Sorry, don't know about that. Haven't ran installation from livecd in a while.
<2> Redhatter: okay.. but i removed all the partitions using fdisk before the installation and it worked earlier
<6> axxel : Yeah, what Redhatter said (despite the nick ;) - manual can not be beat.
<2> thanx anyway :D
<6> axxel : Do the dd command to clear out the disk.
<4> CareBear\, lol Ummm... check the hostmask :-P
<2> CareBear\: okay :D
<6> Redhatter : No help man. I thought blasphemy was banned here. ;)
<4> lol
<4> It's not blasphemy... :-P
<4> It's just there to get the zealots upset :-P
<6> Redhatter : Haha, yeayea, got me.
<1> Redhatter: lol, how come you don't have a chanserv entry in here?
<4> RiverRat, Do I really need one?
<4> There seem to be enough ops in here :-)
<1> nope :)
<1> There does seem to be more than a few. :)
<1> Would you like a chanserv entry in here?
<8> hr, lots of arhs
<4> Not particularly... I'm only in here sporadically.
<8> archs
<2> CareBear\: it's still stuck at the same place..
<4> axxel, A manual install might be faster.
<2> wich means?
<4> axxel, Follow the handbook... grab a stage tarball... do it the old fashoned way.
<2> Redhatter: wich means creating partitions, extract the tarball, updating portage, installing programs and manually edit the configurationfiles?
<9> well that was a bust.
<2> okay..
<4> npt/npt_/npt__, Blimey... pull yourself together man! :-P
<9> i'm just going to say screw it for now
<8> hrm, is x3 nicks really needed
<9> ati-gatos can kiss it.
<4> axxel, Precisely. :-) This is how I normally install. It doesn't take long to get something bootable together.
<10> tdr: perhaps he's have connection difficulties and reconnecting without actually disconnecting so hi client just adds more _'s
<5> npt? native posix threads?
<2> okay.. shall i just copy the kernel straight of the cd?
<1> Gentoo is different though. Once you get it figured its beautifully simple but is takes some getting used to.
<4> Indeed.
<1> metric: nptl
<0> metric: also national pipe thread
<11> ok, the xorg-server-1.0.2 compilation is ready
<11> Now I want to continue the update again
<4> axxel, You may as well build your own kernel... it's not that hard.
<6> Cybertinus : qpkg xorg-server and check that 1.1.0 isn't still around.
<11> but then it wants to install xorg-server-1.1.0 again
<7> blackace, it seems to be burning now. i had to tell it to--......it just failed...nvm.
<2> Redhatter: well, i meant just to get something to boot from?
<6> Cybertinus : Ok. Then echo '>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99' >> /etc/portage/package.mask
<1> Cybertinus: I suggest <x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0 & <=virtual/x11-6.8 in package.mask
<4> axxel, I spose you could use the LiveCD kernel for that purpose, but I'd just build a new one.
<4> That's just me though.
<11> CareBear\ and RiverRat: thnx, gonna do that
<2> Redhatter: okay.. i'll try.. if i can do this i'm totally pro :)
<4> axxel, You'll figure it out. :-)
<0> regr***o_damonus: sure your media is good?
<11> CareBear\: If I do you
<5> no pansy talk?
<6> blackace : Do you know how webapp-config-things interact with DEFAULT_VHOST?
<2> Redhatter: i will.. ;)
<11> 'r trick Portage can't find any package to install xorg-server-1.1.0, because everything he can find is blocked
<4> axxel, if complete Linux newbies can manage Gentoo/MIPS on SGI boxes, I'm sure you'll master your box. :-)
<6> metric : I don't believe pansies would tend to try Gentoo.
<2> Redhatter: hmm.. i think so too :P
<5> CareBear\ : exactly
<6> Cybertinus : Ouch.
<12> i am going to be micing with skype and gaming through wine, are there any recomendations for sound servers, i will probably be using JACK and the oss2jack for skype and using OSS through wine
<0> CareBear\: what do you mean?
<0> CareBear\: DEFAULT_VHOST is an apache thing
<7> blackace, yes.
<7> blackace, i just found something on google about a problem in dvd+rw-tools that explains why k3b bugged out before...i need to reinstall cdrtools, though. k3b requires them i guess..
<6> Cybertinus : I know very little about all of xorg 7 in portage so I'm afraid I'm getting off at this stip. Sorry. :\
<11> CareBear\: hmm, that's to bad :(
<6> blackace : Well, I'm installing this as the single application to be run on a server..
<7> blackace, the only problem i have is i have no clue what they are trying to say when they tell you to fix it. can you please tell me what they're talking about? what in the blue hell is a bourne-shell: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/?M=D
<0> regr***o_damonus: bourne-like would include bash
<6> blackace : And only really care about Apache since that's what I was planning on using.
<11> RiverRat: when I put your lines in package.mask, Portage is still installing xorg-server-1.1.0
<11> the question is: how can I tell Portage that I don't want a specific version of a package, but that I want to use an older version
<7> blackace, ok, so do i run that command shown in bash prior to running k3b? or..?
<6> blackace : (Well, virtual server actually, I'm running xen which is quite cool. :)
<5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourne_shell
<0> CareBear\: apache does it's DEFAULT_VHOST as /var/www/localhost/, if you omit the vhosts useflag, the webapp-ecl*** does installs and upgrades in /var/www/localhost/ automatically by default
<0> CareBear\: so it'll be seamless from that perspective
<1> Cybertinus: Those prevent monolithic X I guess ">=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99" should prevent the new server. It should be hard masked and the removal of the X stuff from package.unmask whould handle that for you.
<4> Cybertinus, Try `emerge \<xorg-server-1.1.0` -- should install a version older than v1.1.0
<11> Redhatter: I already have an older version of xorg-serverrrrr
<4> Then what's the problem?
<11> but when I update my system, it want to update to xorg-server-1.1.0
<11> and I don't want that
<4> /etc/portage/package.mask is your friend
<5> Cybertinus: what's wrong with 1.1.0, btw?
<11> Redhatter: yeah, I know. But what must I put in there?
<4> `echo '=x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.0' >> /etc/portage/package.mask` ought to do the trick
<11> metric: the nVidia drivers arn't compatible with xorg-server-1.1.0
<1> metric: The ABI changed and the binary drivers don't work.
<5> ahh
<4> Yes, damn nVidia and their proprietry rubbish. :-|
<1> Well I curse them a lot but I use them. They are so much faster Redhatter.
<4> RiverRat, Yeah, that's the sad bit.
<4> For decent OpenGL, they're the only real option...
<13> Same here
<11> If I put >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 in /etc/portage/package.mask, Portage still wants to update to xorg-server-1.1.0, but because all versions are blocked, Portage fails. How can I tell portage that it shouldn't try to update to xorg-server-1.1.0. That shouldn't be this hard?
<5> with all this xgl/egl/aigl/etc... linux is screwed without open drivers
<1> Redhatter: Not just that but I use E with many virtual desktops and when I changed between them w/ nv it would take 5-10 seconds. It is sub 1 second w/ nvidia.
<6> blackace : Right, I know what DEFAULT_VHOST does, but not about webapp-config. Reading up on man page now. Hmm, perhaps try lighttpd?
<0> metric: linux isn't screwed...people who want those nifty little eyecandy hacks are :)
<5> blackface: tried xgl yet?
<0> CareBear\: what does the httpd have to do with it? the whole point to webapp-config is being able to abstract it a little :)
<14> s/nifty/useless/ ;)
<4> RiverRat, Yeah... I just put up with 'nv' on my laptop (my only nVidia machine... has a GeForce 420 Go)... for KDE 3.5 it works well enough.
<5> s/blackface/blackace/
<4> The most 3D hungry apps I use are KPovray and Matlab.
<0> metric: nope, watched the videos of it...and I just don't care for it :)
<0> metric: it would get in my way more than anything
<11> Nobody knows how I can stop Portage from updating a specific package?
<5> blackace: try it.. it's _is_ useful
<14> Cybertinus: /etc/portage/package.mask
<0> metric: wobbling windows and a cube for my virtual desktops would _not_ be helpful.
<5> sure there are those who are fine with the command line, etc
<11> omp: I know, your'e the fifth person who tells me that. WHAT must I put in there? That's the real problem
<0> metric: and people I train who aren't fine with the command line have trouble just dealing with the concept of virtual desktops, tabbed browsers, etc.
<14> Cybertinus: one sec
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