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<0> oh well im going back to gnome now
<1> I have a Windows - Gentoo dual boot, and I'm having a time issue. When I set the time in Windows and reboot into Linux, I'm 5 hours behind. (I'm in EST aka US New York which is GMT -5 hours).
<0> ill be back sometime to try to figure out this KDE stuff
<2> I heard smeg is good though
<0> yeah ive used it a bit
<2> thats why ubuntu has it by default
<0> ubuntu is pretty sweet
<3> pff
<4> sdz: edit /etc/conf.d/clock and change it from UTC to local
<2> not sure if 2.14 next month will have a better menu editor
<0> i have a bag of 10 breezy CDs sitting under my desk here, i need to give them to curious people i know
<5> 2.13 does not so I would not get my hopes up
<1> GerbilSoft: then how do I make it take effect?
<6> sdz: CLOCK="local" in /etc/conf.d/clock
<7> Half-Left, gnome is so buggy nowadays :(
<4> sdz: Reboot :D



<6> damnit. 2nd post :-P
<2> dli: your joking right?
<4> or, just set your clock to +5hr for now
<0> so i hear fluxbox is nice...
<0> :-P
<4> it'll adjust the time difference on the next reboot
<7> Half-Left, right, when I found gnome had a memory leak on my box, I switched to xfce
<2> dli: I had real trouble finding bugs or even crashes in 2.13
<0> i like XFCE, i use it on my laptop
<7> Half-Left, also, the wnck-applets hangs with 100% cpu
<1> GerbilSoft: Actually /etc/init.d/clock restart did it.
<0> when do you guys think gnome 2.12 will hit x86 stable?
<2> dli: they all have bugs
<4> that works too
<7> Half-Left, why gnome has to turn into a behemoth :(
<1> Thanks for your help
<4> i thought /etc/init.d/clock was dependent by some other services, so restarting it would cause a restart of others
<4> (i've had that happen when restarting the hostname service)
<0> KDE is still a behemoth compared to gnome, crap wise
<0> at least thats what i get from using it for a day after using gnome for months
<6> GerbilSoft: pause,start
<0> soooo much stuff
<2> gtk-2.8.11 is much faster
<4> tweakt: thanks, i'll use that in the future
<7> ginoo, I use k3b, kstars from kde, and totem from gnome, but not the desktop environment
<0> i should really do XFCE on my main box
<0> i did it on my laptop cause it ****s and gnome/kde lag
<0> but i do like it as a DE in general, so i might install and config that on here as well
<7> ginoo, when I switched from kde to gnome, gnome was quite stable, but now, I'm back to icewm again
<0> hell, maybe ill use all three, depending on what mode im in haha
<2> 2.14 will be quiet alot faster and lighter
<0> dli: icewm? how is that?
<7> Half-Left, if that's the idea, I will try gnome again
<7> ginoo, gnome starts up in 10 seconds, while icewm starts in 1 second
<2> dli: they have been doing a lot of work on performance and optimzation
<9> twm +1
<10> bah.
<10> this is not a clean compile.
<7> Half-Left, at least, they should remove all memory leak
<10> hulk mad
<0> i dunno, it seems like IceWM is kind of bare for my tastes
<0> how does it compare to xfce, featurewise?
<10> i'd imagine xfce would stomp all over icewm
<10> imho
<0> yeah
<2> dli: gtk+ 2.8.10 and above already addressed the speed issues, but should get even faster
<10> but i havent seen ice in .. yrs
<11> Any idea if there is a feature to check how much i'm uploading and downloading in gentoo?
<9> xfce > iceman
<10> i just moved to xfce4 at home recently
<10> it's nice..
<0> i think ill do that next time im bored
<11> Any idea if there is a feature to check how much i'm uploading and downloading in gentoo? plz
<10> anyone on xorg 7?
<0> kde is nice, but its overwhelming after using gnome
<9> the fact, xfce = gnome/kde no.2
<10> anyone? anyone?
<12> xfce4 is too simplistic to me and the menu's don't work right period,
<5> Xfce filemanager, brrr horrible :|
<10> Orban: my menus work fine



<0> oh god
<0> i know
<5> ahhdem, Yes
<2> Orban: yer true and the filemanager really ****s
<0> i HATE that thing
<10> Infirit: did you have any glx issues installing?
<9> the fm of xfce ****s
<12> ahhdem, i can't get programs to show up where they should in the menu
<7> katubs, interesting, icewm has a netstatus monitor by default
<9> very very ****s
<9> :(
<11> hi guys is it ok to ask you a question regarding gentoo please?
<7> relic, I use xffm
<0> hmm
<5> ahhdem, No probs with mesa or drm, why?
<13> i keep getting error messages saying "unable to handle kernel paging requests"
<14> katubs: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
<11> Any idea if there is a feature to check how much i'm uploading and downloading in gentoo? plz
<2> nautilus only takes 16mb in gnome-2.13
<10> Infirit: just trying to work thru some errors i'm getting..
<0> i like nautilus
<13> later on in the messages it seems like it's trying to access the filesystem
<0> you know what i've gotten extremely addicted to lately? tab completion.
<0> in bash
<13> could this be a reiserfs bug?
<9> the fm of flubox > xfce's
<15> arghh... i cant figure out why im getting 1.0.0.0 when using emerge...
<7> katubs, yes, switch to icewm :)
<0> and everything that has tab completion
<5> ahhdem, Pastbin em :)
<11> icewm?
<0> i find myself hitting tab when i try to go to web pages
<10> relic: fb + fm?
<10> como?
<0> i even hit tab in chat just now.
<0> it's getting bad
<7> ginoo, icewm doesn't have tab completion
<10> Infirit: 1 sec let me get on a better term w/mouse etc
<9> fm is file manager
<0> dli: screw you, then.
<0> dli: :-P
<10> yeah..
<10> ;fluxbox has one?
<9> mm
<10> i've been using fb for years and never know that..
<10> i've always used rox
<7> ginoo, that's the only thing I'm unhappy with icewm
<9> rox > xffm
<2> ginoo: KDE's search is totally broken, useless
<0> dli: that's the DE killer for me
<11> dli you told me to swith to icewm, so wahts this icewm and it cna check current upload and dowload?
<0> Half-Left: i havent tried it yet, i usually use find
<0> Half-Left: ill do that now
<9> i know a new good fm now
<7> katubs, yes, want to make a screen shot for you?
<9> hehe
<11> ye
<9> this fm ~= rox
<2> ginoo: Gnome's search takes a few seconds and 2.14 will have nautilus search
<0> Half-Left: where is kde search anyway, jesus
<7> relic, how about i18n with rox?
<9> its name is ....
<0> i cant find anything in KDE
<2> in the kmenu
<0> ah
<0> find files/folders
<0> thing is theres so much more to read when im looking for something in KDe
<0> in gnome its like hey, there it is.
<16> than use gnome
<17> anybody know a good how-to to auto moutn a usb pen drive?
<0> Beltashazar: i'm comparing and discussing kde and gnome with the other people in the channel
<16> ah
<16> k
<18> Hi! I am getting two erroe messages at boot time that /etc/init.d/checkfs and /bootmisc did not start ? How do I troublesoot?


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