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<0> |AlcoholicA|: oh hehe, actually i was just bored and i'm whining :P
<1> somebody here who can tell me how it is possible to ping a qemu windows from my linux mashine?
<2> pijn, Or if you are on amd64 it is compiling for 64 bit and 32 bit + once for nptl + linuxthreads
<3> do I really need a /boot partition????
<2> So 4 times in total :|
<0> Infirit: nooo i'm the dude with the celeron 266 laptop with 64mb memory :P
<4> must i compile again all the programs with use=samba, can't i just emerge the importat to have my share ?
<5> when i put my wifi card in my pcmcia slot it doesnt show up in lspci, anyone have any ideas what cvould be going wrong?
<5> no errors to speak of
<6> djzn: Except for swap, you can have everything on one partition if you wish, so no, you don't really need /boot on a seperate partition.
<0> peri: only recompile those that have the USE flag samba?
<7> Infirit: Advanced Partition Selection was disabled at all
<8> peri: put samba in USE then emerge -uDN world. That'll recompile all the apps wioth the flag for you
<5> the pcmcia slot detects a card has been inserted
<3> AllenJB: Why do they tell you to make a /boot....?
<5> but i cant send any drivers to it



<4> i have a little problem with it... because USE=samba emerge -vpN world, i have a very long list, with different uses flags....
<6> djzn: It's a recommended setup. It keeps your kernel safe from accidental deletion, and it also means that you're not restricted to filesystems that your boot manager can deal with for everything else
<4> an other problem... there are 3 emacs packages what is blocking another emacs packages, so i cant unmerge the blocked packages, and i cant continue that al...
<9> peri: pastebin the relevant emerge -vp output
<10> i have problems installing precompiled packages
<11> I have a mon script called smb.monitor, which I chmod'd +x, but when I try to run ./smb.monitor it says : bad interpreter: No such file or directory, but perl smb.monitor works fine? the first line of smb.monitor reads #!/usr/bin/perl
<3> AllenJB: oh I see... what about reiserfs... is that recommended with 2.6 kernels?
<10> i have made this entry in make.conf: PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://chinstrap.alternating.net/files/2005.1/grp/i686/";
<9> djzn: is by some people, isn't by other people :)
<7> http://pastebin.com/537017
<9> sonny_jim: check for weird trailing whitespace or windows-style newlines
<10> and the result of 'emerge -gk' can be viewed here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TQZVrH90.html
<11> marienz: How?
<12> (bad newbie qn but still) how do i mount a partition so that all users have rw access to it?
<7> Infirit, predakanga, |AlcoholicA|^^^
<6> djzn: I don't know much about the specific filesystems, but I use reiserfs on my PC and it works fine for me
<9> sonny_jim: running "file" on it should give hints, decent editors also tell you what the newline encoding is if you open it
<2> kbg_20, put user in the options and make sure they have write permission on the mount point
<11> marienz: Ah, well I just copied and pasted it off the webpage and it was fine. Looks like it was a whitespace/window sthing
<7> Infirit, predakanga, |AlcoholicA|: if i delete /dev/sdc3 partition?
<2> kbg_20, With option i mean options in fstab :)
<4> marienz, where i can to paste it ?
<9> peri: rafb.net/paste
<13> could someone recommend a util to monitor bandwidth throughput on my local interface, i guess a performance monitor?
<12> Infirit:i tried that..but still, after mounting, the mountpoints become read only so that only root can use any file there..
<11> w0tan: iptraf
<14> w0tan: conky :)
<13> sonny_jim: gui?
<7> 64259 unallocated sectors
<7> not partitioned?
<2> kbg_20, Before mounting and after mounting it should be set writable for the users
<12> Infirit: so that will have to be done every time i boot?!?
<15> how do I know what kernel I just compiled???
<13> sonny_jim: ncurses...
<2> kbg_20, Nah just once :)
<15> I mean, I just compiled a kernel. how can I know to what file it saved?
<15> except by checking dates
<11> w0tan: It's ncurses
<12> Infirit: so, i make it writable to everyone and then umount and mount it again, it will be writable still?
<0> Is there no hidden magic option in the kernel or Gentoo which will make my prehistoric laptop go as fast as a P4? :P
<8> Naerey: it'll be in /usr/src/linux/arch/<arch>/boot/
<11> w0tan: What's wrong with that. Do you what something that'll make a graph or just give you figures?
<15> LSD`, not in /etc/boot ?
<13> is it possible to stream decent quality video through vnc? i need control as well.
<2> kbg_20, Why everyone, a group would be better..
<15> LSD` er..
<3> AllenJB: /boot must be ext2 or ext3 ?
<8> Naerey: Unless you're using crap like genekernel then it should still be in /usr/src
<11> w0tan: Or there's ntop, thinking about it
<11> wonder: or nettop
<14> djzn: not necessarely, reiserfs is also possible
<16> I just compiled my kernel and I get a blank screen on boot. Could this be a framebuffer problem?
<15> LSD` i meant, is it not saved to /boot ?
<2> kbg_20, When mounted check the permissions and change them. Then umount and redo if neccesary
<3> so it's ok ext3 for /boot
<6> djzn: Generally a non-journaling filesystem like ext2 is recommended
<14> djzn: yes
<13> nettop: x? im using iptraf, its crude but eveything that i need
<17> sonny_jim, ?
<8> Naerey: unless you are using something like genkernel or the kernels "make install" you have to copy it into /boot manually
<3> a non-journaling would be ext2... but that checks every boot time...



<12> Infirit: the changing of perms after mounting(on say /mnt/F) using chmod a+w doesnt work :(...meaning it still remains as drwxr--r--
<11> wonder: Aimed at the l33t speaker with 0's instead of o's. (/me hates that)
<12> Infirit: and it is a fat32 patition, not NTFS
<14> djzn: you can change the checking with tune2fs
<17> sonny_jim, me too
<18> trying to debug some hardware, is there a way, outside of the BIOS, inside linux, to see if my memory is running at 133 or 100MHz?
<15> LSD` unless? what is the other way (im 'make && make install modules_install' )
<19> djzn: it does not check every time at boot unless the filesystem was not unmounted cleanly
<20> Hey, do you (everybody) know how to change X11 cursor?
<3> what is the reasonable explanation not to have ext3 at boot ??????
<2> kbg_20, I am bad to read that but it looks like only the owner now has writer permission
<13> sonny_jim: what im trying to do is stream video from my media center to my desktop with vnc, the color is good, but the stream is a bit chopy, but its not my bandwidth because its only a 2.5mb/s stream
<0> djzn: a 32MB partition with just a few files and a journal?
<12> Infirit: ya thats what i am saying too...using chmod a+w doesnt change the perms to let everyone read
<4> marienz, my computer doesn't want to paste it...
<2> kbg_20, what if you do chmod 660 or 770 on it
<19> djzn: there isn't necessarily one in my opinion - but the logical answer is that the journal overhead isn't specifically required because on a typical gentoo system /boot is unmmounted 99% of the time
<21> hi all !
<9> peri: eh?
<21> how i get a package ?
<8> Naerey: that would probably copy it to /boot, genkernel probably would too. However, if you only did the normam make && make modules_install (no make install or anything else) then it'll still be in /usr/src waiting for you to copy to /boot. Of course, you don't *have* to copy it to /boot, grub can boot it as easily out of /usr/src as it can out of /boot
<9> peri: what does what your computer wants have to do with it?
<22> w0tan: vnc isn't really a good thing to use for stuff that changes like that...
<3> so /boot is unmounted after booting in gentoo??
<19> djzn: it's never mounted at all (the default fstab specifies noauto)
<4> marienz, i cant paste it, because my opera, and firefox cant handle it... just wait for rafb.net....
<15> LSD`, so if i make 'make && make install modules_install' its fine?
<8> djzn: if you follow the gentoo partitioning and fstab guides (which are retarded for the record) to the letter then yess, it'll be unmounted
<21> how i get a compiled gentoo package ?
<3> how is the kernel read?
<9> peri: try another pastebin site perhaps (pastebin.com)
<19> djzn: by the bootloader
<19> djzn: bootloader != kernel
<3> no more than 100 mb on /boot, right?
<13> skunky: any suggs? im trying to figure out how to tweak vnc to push faster.
<12> Infirit: even using number codes, i am not able to set write perms for anyone other than root..
<19> djzn: that's up to you - I can't see any reason to make it higher (grub files and kernel images are not particularly large)
<8> Naerey: That *should* copy it to /boot. I have a niggling memory of it not quite working right (I think it used to copy kernels and stuff to /. not /boot) though
<21> how i get a compiled gentoo package ?
<19> LSD`: it works perfectly
<22> w0tan: don't use vnc. use something that's actually designed to read a stream like vlc
<0> djzn: my kernel is around 3MB, Genkernel's are around 5MB.. 32MB as in the handbook sould suffice :)
<4> marienz, it works.... http://pastebin.com/537036
<13> Skunky: or should i stream with a program and use vnc to control?
<8> kerframil: maybe they fixed it. I just remember trying it once and it not working the way I expected (or wanted) it to
<9> peri: unmerge speedbar, eieio and semantic, then emerge cedet (it includes those three). Does that fix it?
<2> kbg_20, Thats weird...
<21> have packages..iso compiled packages ?
<23> is there any way i can access XFS and ReiserFS paritions from windows?
<4> marienz, i tried emerge -c speedbar eieio semantic, but it didnt found this packages...
<12> Infirit: http://pastebin.com/537043
<9> peri: -C I hope, not -c?
<4> marienz, i also tried emerge -c =app-emacs/speedbar
<9> peri: that's invalid.
<9> peri: what does emerge -vpC speedbar give you?
<23> I have heard that installing Linux on XFS has got its own problems with GRUB
<8> duffmckagan: GRUB never caused me any trouble on XFS
<15> grr... I'm still getting module errors after doing make modules_install and rebooting the newly compiled kernel.. help!!!
<8> duffmckagan: I don't think you can install bootloaders to the superblock on XFS. Not sure what that means exactly though or if it's worth caring about
<2> kbg_20, Was the partition mounted when you did this? If so can you change it when it is unmounted?
<24> ooof ulan offf
<23> LSD`, hmm..thats good...
<12> Infirit: yes, the partition was mounted when i did it...and i can change perms when unmounted
<4> marienz, your right... i used little c with emerge.....
<16> oh well, time to try the next kernel
<23> LSD`,just wondering if there's any way of accessing ReiserFS or say XFS from Windows?
<12> can someone tell me how to unmask a package thats masked by a "missing keyword"?
<9> peri: does it work with -C?
<9> kbg_20: what package, what arch are you on?
<4> marienz, yes, with big C its working.......
<23> LSD`,i really don't feel comfortable with EXT3 :(
<12> marienz: proxychains, amd64
<9> kbg_20: you can put something like cat/pkg ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords even if you're not on x86, but often there's a good reason for a missing keyword: the package doesn't work on your arch :)
<8> duffmckagan: reiserfs I think can be accessed. XFS is another story. I think there's a free driver for XFS (and other Linux filesystems) out there, and I had a URL once, but I can't remember it and the URL is long buried in my #gentoo log


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