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<0> |AlcoholicA|: oh hehe, actually i was just bored and i'm whining :P <1> somebody here who can tell me how it is possible to ping a qemu windows from my linux mashine? <2> pijn, Or if you are on amd64 it is compiling for 64 bit and 32 bit + once for nptl + linuxthreads <3> do I really need a /boot partition???? <2> So 4 times in total :| <0> Infirit: nooo i'm the dude with the celeron 266 laptop with 64mb memory :P <4> must i compile again all the programs with use=samba, can't i just emerge the importat to have my share ? <5> when i put my wifi card in my pcmcia slot it doesnt show up in lspci, anyone have any ideas what cvould be going wrong? <5> no errors to speak of <6> djzn: Except for swap, you can have everything on one partition if you wish, so no, you don't really need /boot on a seperate partition. <0> peri: only recompile those that have the USE flag samba? <7> Infirit: Advanced Partition Selection was disabled at all <8> peri: put samba in USE then emerge -uDN world. That'll recompile all the apps wioth the flag for you <5> the pcmcia slot detects a card has been inserted <3> AllenJB: Why do they tell you to make a /boot....? <5> but i cant send any drivers to it
<4> i have a little problem with it... because USE=samba emerge -vpN world, i have a very long list, with different uses flags.... <6> djzn: It's a recommended setup. It keeps your kernel safe from accidental deletion, and it also means that you're not restricted to filesystems that your boot manager can deal with for everything else <4> an other problem... there are 3 emacs packages what is blocking another emacs packages, so i cant unmerge the blocked packages, and i cant continue that al... <9> peri: pastebin the relevant emerge -vp output <10> i have problems installing precompiled packages <11> I have a mon script called smb.monitor, which I chmod'd +x, but when I try to run ./smb.monitor it says : bad interpreter: No such file or directory, but perl smb.monitor works fine? the first line of smb.monitor reads #!/usr/bin/perl <3> AllenJB: oh I see... what about reiserfs... is that recommended with 2.6 kernels? <10> i have made this entry in make.conf: PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://chinstrap.alternating.net/files/2005.1/grp/i686/" <9> djzn: is by some people, isn't by other people :) <7> http://pastebin.com/537017 <9> sonny_jim: check for weird trailing whitespace or windows-style newlines <10> and the result of 'emerge -gk' can be viewed here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TQZVrH90.html <11> marienz: How? <12> (bad newbie qn but still) how do i mount a partition so that all users have rw access to it? <7> Infirit, predakanga, |AlcoholicA|^^^ <6> djzn: I don't know much about the specific filesystems, but I use reiserfs on my PC and it works fine for me <9> sonny_jim: running "file" on it should give hints, decent editors also tell you what the newline encoding is if you open it <2> kbg_20, put user in the options and make sure they have write permission on the mount point <11> marienz: Ah, well I just copied and pasted it off the webpage and it was fine. Looks like it was a whitespace/window sthing <7> Infirit, predakanga, |AlcoholicA|: if i delete /dev/sdc3 partition? <2> kbg_20, With option i mean options in fstab :) <4> marienz, where i can to paste it ? <9> peri: rafb.net/paste <13> could someone recommend a util to monitor bandwidth throughput on my local interface, i guess a performance monitor? <12> Infirit:i tried that..but still, after mounting, the mountpoints become read only so that only root can use any file there.. <11> w0tan: iptraf <14> w0tan: conky :) <13> sonny_jim: gui? <7> 64259 unallocated sectors <7> not partitioned? <2> kbg_20, Before mounting and after mounting it should be set writable for the users <12> Infirit: so that will have to be done every time i boot?!? <15> how do I know what kernel I just compiled??? <13> sonny_jim: ncurses... <2> kbg_20, Nah just once :) <15> I mean, I just compiled a kernel. how can I know to what file it saved? <15> except by checking dates <11> w0tan: It's ncurses <12> Infirit: so, i make it writable to everyone and then umount and mount it again, it will be writable still? <0> Is there no hidden magic option in the kernel or Gentoo which will make my prehistoric laptop go as fast as a P4? :P <8> Naerey: it'll be in /usr/src/linux/arch/<arch>/boot/ <11> w0tan: What's wrong with that. Do you what something that'll make a graph or just give you figures? <15> LSD`, not in /etc/boot ? <13> is it possible to stream decent quality video through vnc? i need control as well. <2> kbg_20, Why everyone, a group would be better.. <15> LSD` er.. <3> AllenJB: /boot must be ext2 or ext3 ? <8> Naerey: Unless you're using crap like genekernel then it should still be in /usr/src <11> w0tan: Or there's ntop, thinking about it <11> wonder: or nettop <14> djzn: not necessarely, reiserfs is also possible <16> I just compiled my kernel and I get a blank screen on boot. Could this be a framebuffer problem? <15> LSD` i meant, is it not saved to /boot ? <2> kbg_20, When mounted check the permissions and change them. Then umount and redo if neccesary <3> so it's ok ext3 for /boot <6> djzn: Generally a non-journaling filesystem like ext2 is recommended <14> djzn: yes <13> nettop: x? im using iptraf, its crude but eveything that i need <17> sonny_jim, ? <8> Naerey: unless you are using something like genkernel or the kernels "make install" you have to copy it into /boot manually <3> a non-journaling would be ext2... but that checks every boot time...
<12> Infirit: the changing of perms after mounting(on say /mnt/F) using chmod a+w doesnt work :(...meaning it still remains as drwxr--r-- <11> wonder: Aimed at the l33t speaker with 0's instead of o's. (/me hates that) <12> Infirit: and it is a fat32 patition, not NTFS <14> djzn: you can change the checking with tune2fs <17> sonny_jim, me too <18> trying to debug some hardware, is there a way, outside of the BIOS, inside linux, to see if my memory is running at 133 or 100MHz? <15> LSD` unless? what is the other way (im 'make && make install modules_install' ) <19> djzn: it does not check every time at boot unless the filesystem was not unmounted cleanly <20> Hey, do you (everybody) know how to change X11 cursor? <3> what is the reasonable explanation not to have ext3 at boot ?????? <2> kbg_20, I am bad to read that but it looks like only the owner now has writer permission <13> sonny_jim: what im trying to do is stream video from my media center to my desktop with vnc, the color is good, but the stream is a bit chopy, but its not my bandwidth because its only a 2.5mb/s stream <0> djzn: a 32MB partition with just a few files and a journal? <12> Infirit: ya thats what i am saying too...using chmod a+w doesnt change the perms to let everyone read <4> marienz, my computer doesn't want to paste it... <2> kbg_20, what if you do chmod 660 or 770 on it <19> djzn: there isn't necessarily one in my opinion - but the logical answer is that the journal overhead isn't specifically required because on a typical gentoo system /boot is unmmounted 99% of the time <21> hi all ! <9> peri: eh? <21> how i get a package ? <8> Naerey: that would probably copy it to /boot, genkernel probably would too. However, if you only did the normam make && make modules_install (no make install or anything else) then it'll still be in /usr/src waiting for you to copy to /boot. Of course, you don't *have* to copy it to /boot, grub can boot it as easily out of /usr/src as it can out of /boot <9> peri: what does what your computer wants have to do with it? <22> w0tan: vnc isn't really a good thing to use for stuff that changes like that... <3> so /boot is unmounted after booting in gentoo?? <19> djzn: it's never mounted at all (the default fstab specifies noauto) <4> marienz, i cant paste it, because my opera, and firefox cant handle it... just wait for rafb.net.... <15> LSD`, so if i make 'make && make install modules_install' its fine? <8> djzn: if you follow the gentoo partitioning and fstab guides (which are retarded for the record) to the letter then yess, it'll be unmounted <21> how i get a compiled gentoo package ? <3> how is the kernel read? <9> peri: try another pastebin site perhaps (pastebin.com) <19> djzn: by the bootloader <19> djzn: bootloader != kernel <3> no more than 100 mb on /boot, right? <13> skunky: any suggs? im trying to figure out how to tweak vnc to push faster. <12> Infirit: even using number codes, i am not able to set write perms for anyone other than root.. <19> djzn: that's up to you - I can't see any reason to make it higher (grub files and kernel images are not particularly large) <8> Naerey: That *should* copy it to /boot. I have a niggling memory of it not quite working right (I think it used to copy kernels and stuff to /. not /boot) though <21> how i get a compiled gentoo package ? <19> LSD`: it works perfectly <22> w0tan: don't use vnc. use something that's actually designed to read a stream like vlc <0> djzn: my kernel is around 3MB, Genkernel's are around 5MB.. 32MB as in the handbook sould suffice :) <4> marienz, it works.... http://pastebin.com/537036 <13> Skunky: or should i stream with a program and use vnc to control? <8> kerframil: maybe they fixed it. I just remember trying it once and it not working the way I expected (or wanted) it to <9> peri: unmerge speedbar, eieio and semantic, then emerge cedet (it includes those three). Does that fix it? <2> kbg_20, Thats weird... <21> have packages..iso compiled packages ? <23> is there any way i can access XFS and ReiserFS paritions from windows? <4> marienz, i tried emerge -c speedbar eieio semantic, but it didnt found this packages... <12> Infirit: http://pastebin.com/537043 <9> peri: -C I hope, not -c? <4> marienz, i also tried emerge -c =app-emacs/speedbar <9> peri: that's invalid. <9> peri: what does emerge -vpC speedbar give you? <23> I have heard that installing Linux on XFS has got its own problems with GRUB <8> duffmckagan: GRUB never caused me any trouble on XFS <15> grr... I'm still getting module errors after doing make modules_install and rebooting the newly compiled kernel.. help!!! <8> duffmckagan: I don't think you can install bootloaders to the superblock on XFS. Not sure what that means exactly though or if it's worth caring about <2> kbg_20, Was the partition mounted when you did this? If so can you change it when it is unmounted? <24> ooof ulan offf <23> LSD`, hmm..thats good... <12> Infirit: yes, the partition was mounted when i did it...and i can change perms when unmounted <4> marienz, your right... i used little c with emerge..... <16> oh well, time to try the next kernel <23> LSD`,just wondering if there's any way of accessing ReiserFS or say XFS from Windows? <12> can someone tell me how to unmask a package thats masked by a "missing keyword"? <9> peri: does it work with -C? <9> kbg_20: what package, what arch are you on? <4> marienz, yes, with big C its working....... <23> LSD`,i really don't feel comfortable with EXT3 :( <12> marienz: proxychains, amd64 <9> kbg_20: you can put something like cat/pkg ~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords even if you're not on x86, but often there's a good reason for a missing keyword: the package doesn't work on your arch :) <8> duffmckagan: reiserfs I think can be accessed. XFS is another story. I think there's a free driver for XFS (and other Linux filesystems) out there, and I had a URL once, but I can't remember it and the URL is long buried in my #gentoo log
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