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<0> Kyuu: My point was.. I really don't make use om my RAM else :D
<1> cd release i mean, 2005.1 is current
<2> J-nus: i see
<3> I just had an error when i was updating python, http://pastebin.com/536101 .. anyone know what that might be?
<1> Kyuu: cd release i mean, 2005.1 is current
<2> jippie: what are you looking for in a newer livecd?
<4> bye guys. gn8
<1> Kyuu: 2005.2 or 2006.0 livecd/handbook. if it is soon to be released i'll wait installing a test system
<2> jippie: again.. what does it matter?
<2> jippie: the livecd doesnt matter at all, you can use knoppix or even an existing system to install
<5> jippie: you can always install from 2005.1. Then upgrade to the same level as 2005.2 when it comes out
<1> i understood a while ago that the next gentoo livecd will carry a new graphical installer Kyuu / alveraan
<2> jippie: nope
<6> jippie: I'd say that's unlikely
<7> alveraan: there won't be any 2005.2, probably a 2006.0
<5> jippie: command line installation is easy with a little patience and the gentoo handbook



<5> LinuxBlues: oh ok thanks
<2> jippie: the graphical installer is probably not going to be in the livecd for a very very long time
<6> jippie: you're probably thinking of the Experimental LiveCD, which does have a limited graphical installer/preview
<1> alveraan: i know i've done it several times
<8> i am having troubles with multiple resolution options in xorg with my nvidia.. any ideas what i'm most likely doing wrong?? i have multiple resolutions listed.
<2> kc8pxy: i leave it blank and let it decide for itself
<9> hi2u all
<6> hi
<9> wondering if anyone can shed some light on to how stable UML is
<1> oh right i'd hoped to save myself a lot of time for installing test machines
<2> jippie: not to mention, we dont support it and if it breaks something then youre going to be out of luck
<2> jippie: write yourself a script or oneliner.. its not hard
<1> ok thnx all
<8> Kyuu: .... i'll try, but it has been a PITA in this department.. crtl+ and ctrl- switches manually from within xorg??
<10> hi people!
<11> greetings.... My 5 year running gentoo box has been compromised. I have taken it offline and want to reinstall it. How do I export the list of currently installed packages so I can get it back to a similar state?? tia
<0> Kyuu: Hard/easy... surley that depends on the skill/experience of the user... personally I got about 2-3 month experience of Gentoo and about 4-6 month experience on Linux...
<2> kc8pxy: it should, but i dont ever change my res that way.. i use xrandr
<12> anyone familiar with the keyboard power on function on some motherboards?
<1> :)
<2> alveraan: impossible :p
<12> i'm wondering if you can use the keyboard power on function with wireless keyboards...
<10> raging_hog: good news everyone, i have recovered file from reiserfs and grep technique function ;)
<5> Kyuu: maybe they'll revolutionize THE graphical installer. Then maybe I should just shut up :-)
<2> alveraan: honestly, it would be impossible for a graphical installer to do the stuff that i usually do in an install
<1> oh one tiny little other question: 2005.1 defaults to a stage3 install right? is it documented how to compile *everything* for my own hardware/processor, just like it is done in a stage1 install, or is it easier to use the stage1 install from the FAQ from the start?
<13> Kyuu: like cook eggs?
<2> mbishop: sure!
<14> jippie, stage3 -> emerge -e world
<15> jippie: emerge -e or something, iirc. after you're done installing stage 3
<10> gentoo community have the power ^_^
<16> maccam94: why wouldn't you be able to
<0> maccam94: If you mean to press akey to start the computer after its been turn off (not just sleep) then I think its up to bios.. couse I never bothered with anything in my linux to be able to start my computer by simply pressing a key
<2> mbishop: or something along the lines of systematically crippling my system
<6> alveraan: perhaps a graphical installer w/ the best hardware detection/auto kernel config evar would do it for the average user
<14> J-nus, IIRC it's ACPI related
<17> chanika, emerge -e world doesn't recompile all packages, only those in world :(
<0> maccam94: (and yes its cordless.. the logitech mouse combo thing)
<2> Shirakawasuna: auto configed kernels are the pits :/
<14> dli, and whats in world?
<1> hmm i'd probably go for the good old stage1 install again then dli
<6> Kyuu: my point was that it'd have to be the best one ever
<18> hey guys, I'm trying to extract an icon set.tar.gz....what tar switches should I use??
<12> J-nus: you would have to have the bios option, the os has nothing to do with it
<17> jippie, get a stage3 really old :)
<6> Kyuu: an auto-config equal to 20 # gentoos!
<10> p4r0l3: tar -xzvf
<5> Shirakawasuna: The average user already has ubuntu
<12> J-nus: i'm just wondering if the wireless reciever would be powered up
<17> jippie, then, emerge --sync;emerge -uD world
<6> alveraan: stupid ubuntu
<6> anyways, who cares
<18> grick: thanks
<6> I'm not advocating a graphical installer
<17> jippie, if it's old enough, emerge -uD world will recompile every package :)
<1> :)
<7> p4r0l3: tar -xzvf set.tar.gz
<5> Shirakawasuna: me neither
<6> but I will bother you with all sorts of gentoo newb questions :)



<13> FieldySnuts LOVES graphical installers
<14> dli, that makes no sense
<17> jippie, the questions is why it matters at all :) just do stage3
<1> yeah i catch your drift :) dli
<2> Shirakawasuna: auto configed kernel would mean a slow system with extra crap to eat your ram
<17> antarus, just for fun
<19> jippie: i'd advise emerge -uDa world , it'll display list of stuff to be upgraded then and prompt you if you want to go ahead
<1> all my systems have a stage1 install dli, i guess i want them to be the same as much as possible
<0> maccam94: If i pull the power switch on the back of the psu then turn it on then nothing happens, but after first "front panel power on" then it works with keyboard
<17> jippie, indeed, you can use "eix -cI" to find all installed packages, and emerge them all
<6> Kyuu: *sigh* my point is, a program that would configure your kernel so well automatically, that there's no need to do it manually
<14> jippie, there is no difference..
<6> Kyuu: and it's entirely hypothetical
<20> 1
<2> Shirakawasuna: yes... if only a system ever existed
<14> jippie, a stage1 isn't magically faster, magically more leet or anything
<6> argh! hypothetical
<5> Shirakawasuna: I think such a programm is not possible
<14> Kikkoman, having issues?
<12> J-nus: so you're talking about booting cold after having used the front panel button once?
<7> Shirakawasuna: there was a project about it about 1999 or 2000, now forgotten and deprecated
<21> Shirakawasuna, mindreading software.... someday
<22> LinuxBlues: i believe it's not, but i might be mistaken
<15> maybe some little bash script to do the boring parts for me.. but no gui.
<5> maybe with a cyc database as backend it could be done :-)
<1> dli: no eix on my path :(
<1> ah it is an ebuild
<7> Ticho: I haven't read nothing about it in years... who knows...
<0> maccam94: Exactly no sleep mode or suppended mode.. just slap on the bib space bar is what I do :D
<17> jippie, emerge eix
<1> yes found it dli thnx
<20> i'm trying to set up my dial-up conection, stll in instalation, help please!
<12> J-nus: sweet. see, i'm going to be setting up a system for my grandfather, i want it so he won't have to touch the tower, just has to use the keyboard.
<22> LinuxBlues: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/
<10> i have to go, bye people
<6> bit`: just hook up a bunch of #gentoo gurus to the mind-reading software to configure your kernel for you
<0> maccam94: Neat :)
<23> hi guys
<23> I'm new to gentoo
<24> RAR
<23> how do I run windows update?
<5> Kikkoman: try asking specific questions
<24> gil: you dont
<25> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121330
<7> Ticho: I was talking about the program to auto-compile kernels according to the hardware of the system
<14> gil, heh
<26> maentele: Bug 121330; "Free beer for everyone!"; [Gentoo Linux :: Ebuilds]; {RESOLVED:CANTFIX}; Jakub Moc <jakub@gentoo.org>->Gentoo Linux bug wranglers <bug-wranglers@gentoo.org>
<5> gil: lol
<23> but how do I update the patches then?
<2> someone kick the troll
<14> Kyuu, patience
<27> Shirakawasuna: I'm afraid there are certain guru if we hooked 'em up your kernel would just spit out RTFM a million times at boot.
<24> gil: portage handles that for you
<22> LinuxBlues: ah, my bad
<20> how to set-up my dial-up conection
<24> RAR, so they put a new python ebuild in the tree
<24> and require said ebuild to use a patch
<6> haha
<15> LOL
<24> and is said patch IN the tree? of course not
<14> Ginsu_Squirrel, it's fixed in CVS
<2> antarus: its obvious... if he had managed to install gentoo do you *actually* think someone would ask that?
<24> antarus: i'm looking at the freakin cvs web
<28> gil: you are a vey evil man... stop trolling
<29> hi
<14> Ginsu_Squirrel, it's fixed in CVS
<6> kojiro: and if you hooked them up for a hardware issue, you'd spend the rest of your life doing memtest
<24> antarus: RAR
<29> there's something quite weird going on
<29> the net.eth0 won't work anymore
<14> CIA-4 kloeri * gentoo-x86/dev-lang/python/files/python-2.4.2-mmap+fd.patch:
<14> CIA-4 Remove silly cvs tags breaking patch..
<2> and there he goes


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