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<0> youll use gentoo and youll like it, mister.
<1> i do use gentoo
<2> Awesome-o2000: then again, that brings me back to the whole point that, I use all kde apps... no gnome ones. running the interface seems a bit of a waste
<3> 2.12.3 but its very stable and clean
<1> i use gtk and qt apps, so i mix'n'match
<0> kakakoka, maybe you can remove konqueror? I dont know kde at all
<1> though i have -gnome in my useflags
<2> Awesome-o2000: konq is great... I just did something and screwed it up
<1> kakalto: erm... there's a file ***ociation thingy in the control center, somewhere
<2> >_>
<0> you konq'd it
<1> Awesome-o2000: LOL
<2> AterPhasma: I can't find specifically what's causing my problem, so yeah.
<0> alright all enough bad jokes out of me, im off to bed, have a pleasant evening
<2> Awesome-o2000: lol.
<2> Awesome-o2000: 'night :)
<1> i can't wait for kde 4 ^^
<1> g'night Awesome-o2000
<2> AterPhasma: I'm with ya xD
<0> kakakoka, have hope - dont leave the distro because of that - thats GOT to be really easy to fix
<2> apparently there's been up to 30% increase in speed with qt4/kde4?
<1> i dunnos
<0> Hmm - i can't imagine things getting faster than my gnome build, its faster than windows
<2> Awesome-o2000: well, it'll satisfy my curiousity aswell. Then I'll switch back to gentoo when kde4 comes out :)
<1> Awesome-o2000: but windows is slowcrappy
<0> AterPhasma, depends on how you set it up
<1> Awesome-o2000: or how long you've had it set up...
<2> Awesome-o2000: comparing something to windows is like comparing to a snail. speed is gotta be better...
<1> Awesome-o2000: the best configured windows system will slow down a few months after install
<0> yeah I tend to wipe windows ev 6 months or so
<0> its a total PITA
<1> it really is...
<0> but Im talking comparable apps
<2> it's weird, no matter what you do, how well you take care of it, it slows down over periods of time
<0> firefox, gaim, xchat
<2> Awesome-o2000: ahk
<1> and you know what really gets me about steam? it like... creates the Source engine... from nothing
<0> apps that are the same, esp the sames, are invariably better in gentoo
<0> esp the games I mean
<2> AterPhasma: not from nothing. from steam :P
<1> heh
<1> kakalto: but it doesn't download the engine at all! the files just appear!
<0> ut2004 is REALLY nice and I run it with 16x aa and 16x af
<2> AterPhasma: from thin air? it's called condensation :P
<0> nice and smooth and pretty - you can see all the chunks of people when you mash them into bits
<1> kakalto: never said from thin air, i said from nothing; they just appear
<2> hehe
<1> Awesome-o2000: nifty, what card/rez/fps?
<2> AterPhasma: ok, okay I get the idea. I'll stop with the bad jokes
<1> good
<1> look, another knoppix user :D
<2> hehe
<0> 6800gs 512mbAGP/1024x768or1280x1024/75-76 lcd monitor
<1> hmmm
<4> The thing that gets me about Steam is that we have to sit and wait three times as long for their little copy-protection system.
<5> is that good or bad
<6> set bell-style none rules!
<0> i love this card, I wont need to upgrade for a long time
<1> hehe
<1> i like my 6600
<1> funny thing is, even running a game in WINE, i get better performance than on windows
<1> e.g. Second Life
<0> i used to have a 6600 256 but it got mashed in the move
<1> awww... that ****s
<0> that used to happen to me with the original counterstrike
<0> better than windows performance - at least on winex3
<1> yeah, but Second Life is like... hugely system intensive
<7> Hi!
<6> i must say steam is just crap, it doesnt run well on my laptop under cedega.. but WoW runs like a charm and even loads faster then in windows ( fps is about the same )
<1> it only this month got object occlusion
<6> how odd is that
<0> its ok - what ****s is that I replaced it with an ati x800gto which was hell on wheels in windows and ****ed for linux
<1> yeah, see, ati cards != windows
<1> s/windows/linux/
<0> yeah
<2> yeah, ati is known for badness under linux ;_;
<0> it was fantastic in windows though
<2> I bet
<1> i had an ati card... i got pissed with it and got this nvidia
<1> now i'm very happy
<8> ati is also known for badness in windows :)
<2> heheh.
<1> ati is known for badness in general recently...
<0> Ill give it props for that - it ran everything I could throw at it with the settings cranked all the way up
<9> Stonefish at least driver wise...in theory their hardware is solid
<8> When they work, they work well. When they don't..... well.. it's nasty
<1> time was that they kicked nvidia's ***
<2> I heard something about ati and amd partnership T_T
<1> but now... not so much
<1> kakalto: nuuuuu!
<7> My boss promised me a new computer. Can someone help me figuring out what would be good for gentoo :) I mean AMD/intel? 32/64 bit? dualcore?
<0> AterPhasma, way, way back in the days of the tnt2 they did
<8> thehail1: That theory means precisely zero. I want reliability, and if I don't have that, then speed is nothing.
<10> does the gentoo livecd support ipw2200?
<2> AterPhasma: mm.... I was like :O that's gonna ****!
<9> kaarlo if you can, gran amd dual core 64bit, everything you just listed will work fine, but that'll give you great performence
<7> Right now I have some lousy box running mandriva :(
<2> kaarlo: mandriva no good? or the box?
<0> the x800gto was a great card but it is what it is, an ATI card
<7> kakalto: Box :)
<0> ati, the hyundai of the video card world.
<2> kaarlo: hehe :)
<8> Every single time someone tells me ATI drivers "work now", Civilisation IV comes out and proves them dead wrong.
<1> mandriva bad
<1> very very bad
<7> thehail1: I've heard there are some issues with AMD 64, especially with multimedia
<11> howdy.
<12> php5 ok afterrm -f /usr/portage/distfiles/php-5.1.4.tar.bz2 thanks siimo and AterPhasma
<0> I got the ati proprietary drivers to work in ubuntu
<11> got a question, just can;t remember it.
<0> thats it
<11> ;/
<10> The linux community needs to campaign against ati for releasing such shoddy drivers..
<1> ne0futur: congrats
<1> we really do...
<3> no problemo
<0> and they still work like utter feces because the driver support itself is feces.
<5> anybody know how to make caupachino?
<1> and we need to yell at nvidia for not making twinview more configurable
<11> the world community needs to campaign against ati, permanently.
<1> i love twinview...
<7> thehail1: Oh, and I sometimes need 32 bit scientific apps, can I install them on 64?
<12> 5th problem and I only need a php with ctype enabled 8 hours ago . . . ;((
<1> but i want to be able to specify which of my monitors is the bloody primary!
<9> kaarlo I always hear stuff like that, it's crap, I've been running amd64 for over 2 years perfectly, mplayer-bin, firefox-bin, and openoffice-bin are all precompiled 32bit progs in portage for use by amd64 users to give them full access to things like flash, wmv/wma, etc.
<11> actually, the ati pci-e range is pretty hot :)
<11> but theyre drivers do ****.
<11> :9
<8> their
<9> kaarlo all of your 32bit apps will work just fine
<11> yer
<7> thehail1: Well good to hear!
<0> I didnt know there was an mplayer bin but I wouldnt use that anyhow, or the firefox. I would highly reccomend openoffice-bin
<1> kaarlo: i'd suggest an AMD athlon64 either X2 or 3700+
<1> oh yeah
<1> always recommend openoffice-bin
<1> it works fine anyway
<13> Used to be there were use flags all the xorg input drivers, now all of them are building on my machine, did I miss something?
<1> avuton: read the xorg7 upgrade guide /topic
<9> AterPhasma but compiling it yourself gives you such a cooler splash screen...
<0> openoffice is another one that is better in linux than windows
<13> AterPhasma: thanks
<1> true, it does give a nifty splash screen
<0> same prog, better performance
<1> i <3 the gentoo OOo splash screen
<9> agreed
<0> I just mean opening files and that sort of thing
<7> thehail1: What about virtualization, I *need* windows sometimes, so I run it with vmware. Any issues with vmware with 64 bit AMD?
<1> kaarlo: just have a dual boot with windows installed in a tiny partition
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