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<0> you are thinking of kernel
<0> not gcc
<1> 3.3 is a stable branch
<1> 4.1 is a stable branch
<2> oh that's right, I forgot about 3.3 being stable
<3> O excuse me; 'testing' sounds better than 'unstable'
<4> Garibaldi: hmm ok... dewd__: I will try USE="apache2" and emerge php as Garibaldi suggested.
<5> hopeseekr: that only makes my mouse crappy :-(
<3> Workaphobia: 3.3 != stable
<1> 4.1 hasn't achieved enough widespreaded testing to be stabilized yet
<1> uhh
<1> what?
<1> 3.3 has been stable for years
<5> spundun: yes if u use apache2 that is needed ..
<1> 3.3.6 | ~ ~ + + - + * * * * * + ~ + *
<3> Hydrogen: then they *don't* have a unified stable/experiment version tree?
<1> well, years is a bit of an exageration
<2> look at all the conversion docs about 3.3 to 3.4 or higher; why would it be so well documented if it weren't widespread?
<3> Hydrogen: i was talking GCC parlance, not Gentoo
<1> so am I
<1> there are no "unstable" release lines
<3> Hydrogen: my life is too short; sorry, good b ye
<1> upstream reguards 4.1 as more stable than 4.0
<6> hopeseekr, the lmctl page is more descriptive, which only means that a fair comparison of each program cannot be made.
<7> well
<6> hopeseekr, given the information.
<7> nevermind then
<1> Workaphobia: so that people can upgrade to it
<3> Hydrogen: how can newly released 4.1 be more stable than years-old 4.0?
<1> hopeseekr: it works much better
<1> 4.0 was a lost series
<3> Hydrogen: :O
<8> wtf i emerge alsa and i dont get alsa mixer wtf
<3> Hydrogen: have any docs?
<2> hydrogen: I mean, yeah, I'm saying gcc3.3 is so widespread that it doesn't make sense that it would be unstable. So I was agreeing:)
<9> dewd__: what do i do? it isn't installed
<3> stephen_: USE=alsa
<10> stephen_, alsamixer is in alsa-utils I believe
<4> dewd__: btw... if I do emerge -au --newuse world... I get an error on conflict between updating shadow and installing pam-login which is blocked by shadow... what should I do about that?
<8> ....thanks...
<1> hopeseekr: the fact that support is pretty much already gone >_<
<11> spundun: read the /topic
<2> stephen: emerge alsa-utils I believe
<10> spundun you have to pick between pam-login and shadow
<12> hey folk, I got a laptop question for you
<5> soloman: have you done the emerge -upvDt world ?
<12> who has successfully gotten suspend 2 disk working on anything?
<2> stephen: or alsa-tools. Check the emerge description to see whic hone
<4> Skunky: thanks
<9> dewd__: i did emerge -avuD world, is that good enough?
<5> my guess is that even though it is not emerged it is will be in your list with packages to emerge due to a broken dependency (mplayer)
<5> soloman: add a -t
<5> you can see what depends on it
<9> but dewd__ it doesn't have an ebuild
<9> i can't install it
<5> soloman: and you shouldn't
<6> Anyone: what is this blkid.tab file on my /boot partition? and why is mtab in there also?
<5> soloman: it is listed as a dependency somewhere
<5> soloman: it is a bug
<9> OOOHHH
<9> dewd__: i get it, can i mask it???
<5> soloman: just make sure that there are no pkgs that depend on it
<5> I think it is mplayer
<9> dewd__: oh thank you so much
<13> Hi, I'm getting a reiserfs_writepage crash in call trace, may it mean my hard drive is deficient?
<9> so i have to remove mplayer?
<5> soloman: perhaps if u file a bug it will be fixed tomorrow
<13> it often occurs when i do some important write operations like emerge or file decompression
<5> otherwise it will be somewhere in the near future
<9> ok will do
<14> soloman: can I see the output of emerge -uDNpvt world in a pastebin, please?
<5> what i don't know if that other package has taken over the openal functionality ? but hey it seems to be unused on my system, mplayer works as befor
<5> e
<9> kojiro: of course!
<10> oh how do I make im-ja my default xinput? I have it set as such in my env.d, but I have to actually switch input methods (by right clicking in the text box) to get to it
<6> usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/ bzImage or vmlinuz.bin is my kernel?
<13> can anyone help?
<14> ssstormy: isn't that something you have to set... maybe in an rc file for xinput?
<10> kojiro, what's the env variable?
<15> hey, anyone here know how to get a logitech usb wireless keyboard working?
<14> ssstormy: it might not be an env variable, just a setting. I'm not sure
<14> thatfunkymunki: usb wireless?
<5> kojiro: do you know how I could enable ip aliases on interface lo ?
<16> hey, I've got more grub problems
<14> shouldn't that just be like usb as far as the computer's concerned?
<15> kojiro: yeah it's a wireless keyboard/mouse connected through usb
<9> kojiro: i pasted it :http://pastebin.com/752580
<14> thatfunkymunki: IIRC that just appears as a USB setup. You shouldn't think of it as wireless
<16> I set up grub, but the grub-install didn't work, so I did it manually
<16> and when I reboot, I get an error 15 saying that the file doesn't exist
<16> any ideas/
<16> ?*
<5> NPLSolutions: what file is missing ?
<15> kojiro: :\ well, the thing is, it doesn't even turn on at all. i compiled usb hid support etc in kernel
<17> anybody know because appears default segment ???
<15> but i don't know what to do
<5> cyclopsld: what do you mean ?
<17> its appears when i try to run bittorrent or amule :s
<17> if i try to rurn this in my gnome nevers apeears then when i run this from xterm appears default segmentation
<18> i want to install an older version of a package. I do emerge =pkgname-x.x.x-x but i get "nothing to satisfy the ebuild." I see the package I want on the mirrors but it's a bz2. how do i get this as an ebuild?
<5> cyclopsld: it does not sound like a _complete_ error
<16> dewd_: I think I might've fixed the problem, I guess I followed the instructions a little too closely
<17> why happend this ?
<15> ttyp: have you sync'd?
<18> thatfunkimunki: i have
<5> NPLSolutions: just the kernel image not found I guess
<16> dewd_: I had it pointing to kernel-2.6.16-gentoo-r7, but my file should have been just 2.6.16-gentoo-r7
<17> i can't use these 2 programs :(
<14> dewd__: can't you just put the ips in the hosts file?
<19> is there a way to use gentoolkit to see what version of a package is depended on by other packages?
<15> ttyp: dunno then, try searching for it in emerge
<15> ttyp: and then use the full package nam
<15> e
<19> e.g., i have 3 versions of x11-libs/qt installed, and i'd like to remove any that i don't need. it looks like `equery depends` only works for basic keys (like 'qt') and not for anything with a version (like '=x11-libs/qt-some-old-version')
<18> thatfunkymunki: it's not in my portage tree.
<5> kojiro: how would the system know that they should be an alias for lo and not for instance eth0 ?
<15> ttyp: then i'm not sure there's an ebuild for it:\
<15> ttyp: download it and install it yourself
<5> kojiro: if i add multiple ip's to config_eth0 it just adds the aliased
<5> aliases
<9> kojiro: get it?
<16> new problem: that was the error with the boot, but now, I get tons of lines (horizontal and vertical) going across my screen, over the text
<18> thatfunkymunki: i'm kinda new to gentoo. can i just do ./configure, make && make install? will that wreck anything?
<16> do I need to use a framebuffer or something?
<5> kojiro: I haven't got any clue where lo get's it's config from anyway ???
<20> ttyp: probably
<17> http://pastebin.com/752584
<20> ttyp: as in probably you can do it
<20> :)
<17> any ideas ?
<21> Would mounting devpts or starting udev affect where kernel debugging message are routed (i.e. cause kernel messages to stop being sent to the serial port)?
<5> cyclopsld: hmm so they work in gnome but not in another windowmanager ?
<5> which one ?
<14> soloman: I have some ideas, but I need to snoop around a bit more
<14> soloman: do you need/want openal?
<9> kojiro: okay thanks
<9> no
<14> soloman: set -openal in your USE flags, then
<5> kojiro: on my system it just got emerged again because mplayer depended on it
<14> soloman: that might clean it right up
<9> kojiro: i did already
<5> there should be a new ebuild for mplayer
<14> dewd__: mplayer only depends on it if the useflag is set
<9> should i try remerging mplayer?
<14> soloman: did you change USE before or after you sent me the pastebin?
<22> is there a way to stop portage from overwriting files, if I stop and restart an emerge?
<5> kojiro: yes it is but when mplayer is built with it and does not get rebuild ..
<9> kojiro: you're right
<5> soloman: yes using USE=-openal
<9> kojiro: OOPPS
<9> thanks
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