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<0> kale: I'm going to watch a movie with some friends in about 15 minutes, though
<1> misterzylinder: emerge -ef kdebase-meta, if not
<2> Kyuu: No
<3> airwave: build is all touchy feely goodness-like, while make has certain controlling overtones that tend to strike fear in the timid.
<4> kojiro: youre slow today :p
<5> chaosite: good luck
<0> kale: ty
<6> DrChandra, build, huh?
<0> kale: have you given QoS any thought since we last discussed it?
<2> Kyuu: if i do "emerge -f kdebase-meta" he only fetches the meta package
<7> AxS: I believe I have kept a "stock" kernel 2.6.16 source on here. I am currently compiling a fresh from scratch 2.6.16.18 kernel.
<4> misterzylinder: mmmm
<5> chaosite: only one small thing
<7> AxS: and I'm looking into 2.6.17 sources...
<4> misterzylinder: hard to say then... metabuilds are weird anyways
<0> kale: yes?



<5> chaosite: i may have to put more than one client in a qdisc. e.g. a person has more than one computer, but should not have a larger pice of the cake...
<8> how do I get samba to run?
<9> hi, where's the field in the kernel's menuconfig for ide-scsi?
<10> Is there a way to retrieve all the messages displayed during boot up, similar to dmesg?
<11> HazyNRG_: you don't need ide-scsi
<6> LodeRunnr, ok after you're done that (and if it still doesn't work), edit /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/sk98lin/skge.c, around line #5113 you'll see they have the Dlink device id remmed out. put it back in and change it to 0x4b01 (instead of 0x4c00)
<12> is there any good wiki abour -march in make.conf?
<13> erikl: what do you want to know?
<4> erikl: mmmm there arnt that many options for it.. the best thing to do is check the gcc manual
<14> roger55: hey, i could finally setup my TV card, but the sound is TOOO LOW.. any idea ?
<9> Skunky: isn't it required to burn on an ide drive?
<0> kale: hm, true
<6> ^zeon^, ...alsamixer?
<4> HazyNRG_: nope, that wasy 2.4
<12> reisio: the march for intel celeron d
<0> kale: however it makes it harder to automate
<4> HazyNRG_: in 2.6 you dont need it
<15> hi guys..
<15> i seriously need help
<0> kale: a script can count the number of computers, though it can't count the number of people
<14> _AxS_: i am using the sound-output of the TV-CARD !
<7> AxS: I was thinking of starting with a fresh, stock 2.6.16, and applying the most recent patches for 2.6.17-rcx
<5> chaosite: a little bit harder, but when its done, i'll be easier to use
<9> Kyuu: ok, so can u tell me how to burn an iso image on an ide drive plz?
<0> kale: Unless you use something like a VPN to ***ign them each a username/p***word
<15> I cant emerge sys-libs/db
<7> AxS: I'm new to patching though..
<13> erikl: pentium4 I though, 1min
<16> has anyone had any experience getting dmraid to work with an nvidia onboard SATA RAID?
<0> V0rtex: just use software raid
<17> chaosite: as unbelievable as it sounds, a reboot did the trick
<6> ^zeon^, ...if its a sound device shouldn't it still be controlled by alsamixer?
<0> Kimi_Work: O.o
<5> chaosite: oh, my setup is supposed to be paranoid. they're allowed by MAC
<11> HazyNRG_: only if you're using a 2.4 kernel and a really old version of cdrecord. all recent versions can write to atapi devices natively.
<4> erikl: likely to be nocona, that is if celeron d has 64bit..
<6> ^zeon^, i think it has TV audio volume settings...
<17> chaosite: my thoughts exaclty
<4> HazyNRG_: man cdrecord
<5> chaosite: so, they have to tell me which computers it is...
<16> chaosite: I though about doing that, but will it slow things down any?
<5> chaosite: and then i know who owns them
<0> kale: MACs can be spoofed, rather easily actually
<13> erikl: ya, pentium4, or you can look into the EM64T stuff, too
<9> Skunky, Kyuu : thanks
<18> ^zeon^: alsamixer -c0|1|2 depending on which one corresponds to the tv-card
<5> chaosite: thats true, but i don't think anyone here are smart enough, and if they are, i don't care
<15> checking if java nsplugin works... configure: error: The Java VM java nsplugin failed (see config.log, check the CL***PATH?)
<15> i've been receving this messages
<19> how do I emerge the source of a package?
<12> reisio: also should I keep the CHOST=...?
<15> due to this i cant emerge my subversion
<6> LodeRunnr, this isn't really patching per se, we're just making a small change... we'll worry about oficially 'patching' later..
<5> jen2: emerge --fetchonly <package>
<16> chaosite: s/though/thought/
<4> erikl: did you read the handbook at all?
<15> where i cant sync my layman portage overlays
<4> erikl: it says *never* to change it
<12> Kyuu: next to me
<4> erikl: unless youre going to be rebuilding completely and even then its not always certain to work
<13> erikl: you should keep anything that came with your /etc/make.conf



<7> AxS: I keep getting so wrapped up in this, that I forget to drink my coffee... : (
<16> is there a guide for setting up software RAID in the wiki or forums somewhere that anyone knows off hand?
<6> mzbot, wiki V0rtex mdraid howto
<20> _AxS_: nothing found
<4> dmraid?
<6> mzbot, wiki V0rtex software raid howto
<20> _AxS_: got status 502, retrying in 10 seconds
<4> _AxS_: its dmraid :D
<20> V0rtex: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID
<4> or that
<4> heh
<6> Kyuu, dmraid and mdraid are two different things
<4> _AxS_: dmraid is for getting your software raid going with a software RAID card
<6> V0rtex, but yes, are you wanting dmraid? (ie, promise raid card) or complete software raid?
<5> V0rtex: stick to software raid
<14> _AxS_: is there any way to play the audio of the TV-CARD through my Sound Card ?
<16> is software RAID faster?
<4> kale: they are both software raid...
<5> Kyuu: true
<8> can anyone please answer
<16> I will be doing a lot of large file transfers
<5> V0rtex: stick to linux software raid, its usually faster
<4> P***MeABeer: ill answer when you ask
<8> I asked how do I get samba to run?
<13> mzbot: wiki P***MeABeer samba
<21> P***MeABeer: /etc/init.d/smbd start as run
<20> P***MeABeer: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Samba
<5> V0rtex: i'm on a 3ware, hardware raid controller, and i choose software raid because of the speed
<16> the motherboard I have has two onboard raid controllers - an nvidia one and a silicon image one
<21> maybe nmbd too. I can't remember
<6> ^zeon^, probably but it would depend on your tv card.. ie, if the driver captures audio which would play digitally (via soundcard) or if it requires a patch-cord to your soundcard's line-in..
<16> kale: cool, I will probably try that then
<4> kale: yah. its faster if youre using raid 5 and 6 however
<16> I have been frustrated trying to make dmraid work right for me - I think there are some kernel issues in the latest stable kernel
<4> kale: at least thats what ive read
<6> kale, huh? software raid is _not_ faster than my 3ware hardware raid, even on the same hardware....?
<5> V0rtex: it also has the advantage, that you can move your disks to another machine
<18> ^zeon^: jack could help you do that
<6> kale, not to mention you lose hotswap...
<4> _AxS_: depends on what youre doing..
<6> Kyuu, raid 0+1 ?
<16> kale: heh, I don't really plan on moving the disks but that's good to know
<7> AxS: brb..dogs want to visit the wet, rain soaked backyard.. : (
<4> _AxS_: 3ware RAID is actually slower than software raid on striping
<6> Kyuu, ie, not accellerated?
<14> _AxS_: can u help me out with this extremely low volume problem... i am using saa7134 driver.. and using the sound-out of the TV-CARD itself
<6> Kyuu, not from what my benchmarks said... but then i'm trying to use as much of my cpu for other things...
<16> I basically have a 1600GB array and a 500GB array that probably won't be moving anywhere
<6> ^zeon^, can you select that device in the alsamixer? im sure its just a volume control issue
<14> _AxS_: how can i select it ?
<4> _AxS_: you can google it, its interesting.. but essentially, teh 3ware card is faster on more complex raid arrays like raid 5 and 6 where the hardware acceleration makes up for lack in processing power
<9> i don't find the correct 'dev' argument for cdrecord to burn to /dev/hdc. any help plz?
<18> ^zeon^: for the second time - alsamixer -c0|1|2 depending on which one corresponds to the tv-card
<6> ^zeon^, ...don't remember.. there's an option tho, you should be able to see more than one device at the top of the alsamixer window
<14> cahoot, only 0 works with my default sound card.. but 1 and 2 doesn't work
<18> HazyNRG_: dev=/dev/hdc doesn't do it?
<5> V0rtex: its that "probably" that disturbs me. a hardware raid must follow is hardware... even a bios update can crash your hardware raid
<18> ^zeon^: is the tv-card listed in /proc/asound/cards?
<14> wait
<9> cahoot: oh, i don't need 'dev=ATAPI:x,y,z'?
<6> Kyuu, yeah it makes sense that doing XORs on the card is going to provide a speed increase...
<16> kale: basically if I ever do move the disks, I will be recreating the array anyway
<4> _AxS_: yup
<14> cahoot: nope.. btw, the wiki says that there should be a saa7134-alsa driver.. but i can't find any such driver !! not even in the menuconfig !
<16> I guess I'm just wondering if software RAID will be faster than trying to get dmraid working for the whole 'fakeraid' config
<7> Just my luck..I decide to put up a pool, and we have the return of the great flood!
<22> hello! i have a problem with grep-2.5.1; it won't invert in some cases specifying the -v option. i have a proof
<22> can someone else verify this?
<9> cahoot: that works, thanks
<4> Psih0MAN: your proof?
<22> echo `ip link sh dev eth5 ` | grep -v "not"
<18> ^zeon^: this thread might apply: http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg14637.html
<22> will display the Device "eth5" does not exist.
<4> mmmm do this...


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