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<0> ugh. being sick for days stink.
<0> stinks*
<1> yes
<2> hey GAIM folks, is there any documentation of the MSN protocol, and such, which you use?
<3> On Ubuntu 6.06 + Gnome + Gaim 1.5.1cvs, when someone sends me a message, the window will flash in my task bar (good) or whatever it is called on Linux, but it will not stop flashing when I give the window focus. It doesn't stop flashing until I reply. Is there a way to get it to stop flashing when I view the message?
<1> I think that's a known bug
<1> it doesn't happen in 2.0.0b3
<4> ok, what am i missing here.. this test merge is doing absolutely nothing
<4> and for some reason svn stat is showing a bunch of stuff as locked
<0> technel: enable the message notification plugin and select the options.
<4> roast: is there an option to make it stop flashing when you've given focus to the window? because thats what technel is asking..
<4> oh i see there is ;)
<0> grim: yes, there's a group of options there for when notifications should be removed.
<4> seems like the stop flashing when focus is given should be a default..
<3> grim, Indeed it should be
<3> (testing it now)



<3> roast, grim That seems to work, thanks
<0> technel: np
<5> Ok
<5> Gaim 2 will support QQ?
<5> Will it support voice too?
<6> There's a SoC project implementing QQ; probably not.
<7> It will basically support what openq supports
<5> Ah
<5> And why does the logo have a penguin?
<0> qq == penguin, no?
<4> no
<4> i believe he's referring to the gaim logo on the website..
<4> and my question is, why not?
<6> The Pimpin' Penguin IM Client That's Good For The Soul!
<7> Why is that not in the about window
<4> resiak: you know people have asked us to remove the pimpin' part before?
<6> I think it was deemed unprofessional or something :/
<6> Ah, that'd explain it.
<4> just like nosnilmot's quote about not knowing C...
<6> I'm not aware of this quote.
<4> gaims_funniest_home_convos.txt:279
<6> That's deemed unprofessional, or people have asked you to remove it? =)
<4> i dunno, iirc it came from the rh camp..
<6> haha
<7> They always have the option to not ship that file
<8> or to just shut up and live with it ;)
<9> ..okay, i'm going to have to go read this file.
<9> heh, nice
<9> maybe it's just me, but that's not such a big deal
<10> JasonF: pong
<8> Vorondil: essentially it seems to me that it's either a case of no one's happy unless there's something to complain about, or a language barrier issue
<8> but if people are going to brand gaims_funniest_home_convos.txt unprofessional they'd call guifications' QUOTES downright vulgar
<10> I thought we removed the word "pimp" because someone complained that it was offensive
<11> sadrul: though msn uses html in its messages, newlines are still represented by \r\n. gaim_markup_strip_html turns these into spaces, so newlines in messages are lost. can be 'fixed' by replacing \r\n with "<br />"....
<11> well they're not lost, they're turned into two spaces
<10> JasonF: You may want to email me, I haven't been spending a lot of time at this computer recently. mark at kingant dot net
<9> well, "pimp" i can understand.
<9> you: "now grandma, click on preferences. now, click the "smiley themes" tab and click on 'penguin pimps'"
<9> grandma: "..."
<1> tell me we didn't remove the word pimp because warren got a weepy vagina over it
<1> the 'none' smiley theme is still by Penguin Pimps, and it's in ChangeLog et al., but that does appear to be about it
<1> I'm so disappointed
<0> wabz: this is in the logs, you mean?
<11> nah, for gntgaim - newlines in msn msgs get translated into spaces
<11> not sure about other protocols
<0> wabz: oh okay.
<1> "Rice, PM discuss French Force in South Lebanon"
<1> now, I haven't read that article ... but someone explain to me exactly how that's different from no occupying force at all
<8> Paco-Paco: it makes it easier for the occupied area's citizens to get weapons
<1> but they would be FRENCH weapons
<8> weapons nonetheless
<1> their machine gun in WWII killed more allies than axis
<0> okay. apparently it's the remnants of a heat stroke.
<0> for my being sick.
<12> KingAnt: you still around? we keep missing each other
<12> KingAnt: I just pm'd it to you
<13> hey
<13> im having trouble compiling the gaim-xfire plugin
<14> ok
<14> wabz: should the replacing ("\r\n" with "<br/>") be done by the msn-prpl? do other prpls have to do anything of the sort?
<15> hi! is there a way to start up gaim without the main screen(hide to tray icon)?



<13> go to settings
<13> plugins
<13> and select system tray icon plugin
<13> enjoy :)
<13> just click the X on the gaim window to hide to tray
<15> fiendskull9, thx but is there a way to automatically hide the buddy list upon start without having to press the X each time u start gaim?
<13> hmm
<13> let me check it out
<13> not that i know of
<15> thx
<7> If you quit it when the buddy list is hidden, it should remain hidden on next launch
<15> khc, hmm.. let me try tt
<15> khc, oh thx it works.. i set my window without borders so that never came to me b4...
<16> good morning
<16> since yesterday i have an yahoo account and i'm logged in with gaim
<16> but under the buddys is written: "Not on the Serverlist"
<16> and i cannot see the status of this buddy
<16> but he can write me
<17> hello
<17> how do u make gaim show swedish letters when chatting with swedes?
<18> How do you get Yahoo to use the AIM smilies?
<18> I always see people on yahoo who end up using AIM smilies instead of the default yahoo ones.
<18> I've got the AIM smilies downloaded and tried putting in ~/.gaim/smileys/ which apparently does not do it.
<18> Any ideas?
<19> hi ppl...got a problem with gaim 1.5.0 ...it send an url like http://ip_address/upx.exe to my contacts...what the hell is that ?
<19> (am on FreeBSD 6.0)
<19> s/upx/udp/
<14> CiRkiT: you will need to edit the smiley-theme file
<14> Accela: did you install some third-party plugin?
<19> sadrul: nop
<19> but maybe that it's not really gaim-related
<20> My gaim keeps crashing when i talk to a certain MSN contact, can someone help me solve this problem
<6> Get a backtrace& http://gaim.sf.net/gdb.php
<21> i just noticed the link to the debian wiki on that page now redirects to debian.org rather than debian.net. It's not a broken link, but it does do a HTTP 302 redirect
<21> are gaim developers going to be angry if my code includes lines >80 characters wide?
<6> A ridiculous amount of existing code is >100 characters wide.
<21> ok. most of mine is < 100
<20> resiak: which way is more useful? "the easy way" or "the hard way"?
<21> they're about the same, aren't they?
<21> the hard way is more for when the crash is rare and difficult to reproduce
<6> They're equally useful, but if you can reproduce the crash (which you can) the first way will be easier for you
<20> tedp: well my crashes aren't reproducable, but they are quite frequent(a crash every 3 minutes)
<21> righto
<6> that's reproducible in my book ;)
<20> i should have known gdb can give a backtrace this easily, would have helped me in my advanced OOP course
<22> reproducibility with procedure though tends to be more enlightening :)
<6> SimGuy: That wasn't the question ;)
<21> gdb is brilliant
<21> _definitely_ worth learning to use
<20> SimGuy: unfortunaltly, both me and the contact with whom gaim crashes have some knowledge, and neither of us can see a pattern...
<6> Can you apply gdb to Java?
<21> spose i haven't really used any commercial debuggers to compare it to, but i've no need to
<21> resiak: i don't think so
<16> hi
<21> though i did try to debug GIJ once
<6> It wouldn't have helped my OOP course then ;)
<20> resiak: mine was in C++, so it would have
<16> is there a version of gaimnosd for gaim 2.0 Beta3?
<20> this is new.... gaim has FROZEN
<20> oh it's the debugger... sorry
<21> mission accomplished. my code now crashes gaim :)
<21> on the positive side though, it means my decoder code actually works now
<20> tedp, your mission? phaw i have been crashing gaim all day long without code:P
<20> a linux programmer jumped happily "i have made a program that can crash my OS" the windows user looked at him wondering and said "i get those shipped with the OS for free"
<21> well i wrote a good 500 lines of code without testing any of it, so now it's crunch (crash) time
<21> i remember when i learned about malloc it was really exciting to see that i could have some effect on my system by way of writing an app that continuously reallocated chunks of memory until it ran out and was killed :D
<20> What are you trying to implement?
<21> openpgp signing & encryption for the jabber protocol
<20> security:D nice
<20> guys i got the backtrace, but where am i supposed to post this now?
<21> to the bug tracker on sourceforge
<23> hello, does anyone know how to install festival plugin for gaim?


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