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<0> please somedobfy take a look at my rosteritems diff and tell me if it's worth something http://emiml.ath.cx/jabber_recv_rosteritems.diff
<1> v2 - is the "search logs" dialog kinda lacking, or do I just not get how to use it?
<2> What 'search logs' dialog?
<1> I am trying to find "firewall" in #ubuntu - I now have the list of log entries that supposedly contain it, but how do I jump to the locations?
<3> sounds like svn merge is every bit as gimpy as I was afraid it was
<1> menh: Conversation, View Log, ^F
<1> menu:...
<1> er.. not ^F - there is a textbox and Find button on that window
<2> I don't have the betas in front of me, so I can't really help unforunately.
<1> I seem to remember the same thing in V1.5
<1> I think it is the lack of "find next" that is thwarting me
<4> 'night guys.
<5> is there a overview of the dbus api on the web? Or is it only trough dbus-viewer?
<0> balony: like this one ? http://gaim.sourceforge.net/api/group__core.html
<5> not exatcly..
<6> Hmm, If you hide icon, how do you show it again?



<5> options -> show buddy icon
<6> hmm, this is fc4 with gaim 1.5.0 -16.fc4 and I can't see that option.
<7> look in the Preference dialog
<6> hmm, this is just for one buddy. accidentally pressed ctrl-a with focus on the conversation instead of the buddy list.
<6> and I ***ume that does the same as right click buddy icon -> hide icon
<7> oh, you mean you want to show the buddyicon in the conversation window? you will need to close and reopen the conversation window for that to reappear in 1.5
<6> hehe, didn't really work. logged out and closed gaim even. :P
<7> does the icon show up in the buddy list?
<6> nope
<6> maybe it shows up on the next change.
<7> if a a buddy has an icon (and you have 'show details' turned on for the buddy list), then the icon should appear in the buddylist
<6> hmm, nothing obvious to fix it. Odd. maybe log out with buddy icons off, and try again with them back on
<6> nope
<8> what's up with "Logins to SourceForge.net are currently disabled"?
<9> hmm
<8> what did you do to it The_Tick?
<9> involved duct tape and a flat head screwdriver
<8> no, duct tape is what keeps it _working_
<10> developers and screwdrivers are a bad mix
<3> a friend of mine always says the two most dangerous things in the world are an electrical engineer with a compiler and a computer scientist with a screwdriver
<10> couldn't agree more.
<11> Whee, my copy of Open Source Messaging Applicaton Development: Building and Extending Gaim showed up from Amazon today
<5> url?
<11> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590594673/sr=8-1/qid=1151540280/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-8557142-3686225?ie=UTF8
<11> Though I don't recall it costing $40
<11> I ended up buying it after seeing my SOC Mentor's review
<12> i bought it exactly one year ago, well written and a pretty good book
<11> Yeah, I figure that plenty's happened in a year, but it's a good ramp up to hacking on gaim :)
<12> Yup
<12> It goes through some other stuff too
<11> Heh, and lots of random pictures of people that are in #gaim
<11> Well, in the buddy lists
<13> So...
<3> let me just go ahead and recommend _Race and Culture: A World View_
<3> I'm not very far into it yet, but so far it's pretty good
<3> it's like Guns, Germs & Steel only without the enormous political bias and dubious logic
<11> heh
<14> anyone know of a plugin that syncs gaim data across multiple computers, similar to google browser sync
<15> tomwatts: simply rsyncing ~/.gaim from your crontab would do the trick?
<14> ico2_: yeah...i could do that, maybe i could make a plugin out of that one day..
<15> lol
<3> DestroyFunc Flash
<3> AddToFunc Flash
<3> + I Style $0 Colorset 40
<3> + I Schedule 750 1 Style $0 Colorset 1
<3> whoops
<3> sorry
<16> c
<16> helps if I type in the right screen window
<17> there's something wrong with this channel .... joining #gaim-test doesn't crash, and the moment i come in here ... boom :-/
<18> that's a feature, to ensure that there are more join/part messages than text ;-)
<19> i'd say it's more a feature to keep gaim users out of #gaim ;)
<20> hi guys.
<21> rekkanoryo: don't put ideas like that in my head ;)
<20> id like to know the status related to libgaim.
<19> grim: come on, like i'd need to put an idea like that in your head. surely you already thought of it ages ago
<21> shh
<21> JunK-Y: ...
<22> Hello
<22> Does anyone know how to install Gaim 2.0 Beta 3 on Ubuntu?



<10> Cooner750: you have to compile it yourself
<22> How?
<22> I have GCC and Make installed
<10> you need a fair bit more than that ;-)
<10> sudo apt-get install build-essential; sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
<10> once those have completed, unpack the .tar.gz file, and read the INSTALL file that comes with it
<18> ah, cincinnatans
<10> ..?
<10> was there something stereotypical about that guy?
<18> It was a joke - he just left without thanking you, which is rude, but if you notice I'm also in Cincinnati
<18> There's nothing stereotypical about folks from Cinci, other than their obsession with flying pigs and race riots.
<10> charming
<18> I try to be
<13> Does anyone know a channel larger than ~800 people?
<13> Ideally in the 2k+ range?
<9> #gentoo
<9> possibly
<2> If you are trying to profile the chat room user list I should send you my patch for that.
<13> Uh, I'll look at the patch deryni, but I hope it does stuff mine doesn't.
<9> oh, gentoo is only 850ish
<13> I was using Gentoo, but I've outgrown it
<9> hm
<9> try dalnet warez chans
<9> wait, those are gone
<13> I think dalnet is gone
<13> period
<9> it's around
<13> deryni: Could you send it to me or post it online somewhere?
<13> deryni, or at least summarize your changes? :p
<9> ForlornPenguin: go into #colloquy
<9> and ask what xenon uses for testing
<9> if they know it'll be in that range
<2> http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~deryni/new_chat_buddy.diff <- I think that was the latest version. Basically it makes the chatroom user list use GaimConvChatBuddy:s instead of just strings (which lets a lot of things work better).
<2> I don't know how much it helps efficiency, but I'd think a good bit (and more importantly changes just about every function that deals with the user list).
<13> I'll have to look through it. The only files I've manipulated on this so far have been gtkconv.* and greately reduced the amount of checking done
<13> 90% (real value) of the time lagging as we enter chat is GTK's fault, so I was working around it.
<2> How so?
<13> GTK resorts the entire TreeView widget each time you add a new buddy
<13> This has somewhat bad performance. :p
<2> I can imagine.
<13> The other part of my work (which might be scrapped now?) was re-working alias utf_8 comparisons to use the key collate functions
<13> So we could do the UTF part once and the strcompare the other 24000 times
<13> once = 800 times, sorry.
<2> A lot of string comparisons likely disappear with my patch, yes.
<2> I wasn't working on efficiency so I didn't pay that any real attention though.
<2> I was working on allowing plugins to add right-click menu stuff for chat room list entries.
<13> I'm not sure how you'd handle sorting w/o string comparisons though, so it's probably still relevant
<23> grr. gaim doesn't want to do redirect transfers. and I'm not ready to implemnt proxy stuff. how annoying'
<2> ForlornPenguin: I'm ***uming the gaim_utf8_strcasecmp in sort_chat_users is what you were working on making better?
<13> Yeah, exactly.
<2> Yeah, my patch doesn't touch that line at all.
<13> When I sat down we called sort_chat_users 240k times to join #gentoo
<13> And, therefore, gaim_utf8_strcasecmp ~ 240k times as well
<2> Seriously, gtk+ resorts the entire list store every time you can gtk_list_store_append?
<13> Your patch is far reaching and amazing, but I don't think I'll be delving into chat's performance deep enough right now to need it
<13> Yes. Yes it does.
<13> It is _amazingly_ stupid.
<2> Mentioning my patch was more to let you know that I have a patch which touches all that stuff. Just so you knew.
<13> Oh, absolutely, I appreciate it.
<2> You'll likely finish your work before I get a chance to look at my patch again anyway. =)
<2> And my patch likely doesn't apply at all cleanly anymore anyway.
<2> Does gtk+ do that even if the list_store isn't attached to a view?
<23> my tester seems to have wandred off.. anyone here using gaim 2.0 and aim, willing to spend 5 minutes helping me test stuff? :)
<13> Yes, but the performance is a bit faster
<13> Chani: Sure
<2> That's something at least.
<23> ForlornPenguin: thanks :)my username is chanikopete
<2> For the record my chat patch allegedly caused Luke some very odd jabber errors that I never spent time tracking down.
<13> deryni: You can temporarily disable sorting with not-really-documented features in GTK+, append a bunch of stuff, and reactivate sorting. It's about as good as it gets.
<2> Fun.
<23> ForlornPenguin: still fiddling with gaim?
<13> I'm around
<23> you appear offline
<13> Weird


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