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<0> Rechecking. I just quit freenode-social, and rejoined. Gaim stalled for 12s loading the logs. (it's not running out of RAM) I'll check how big the log is...
<1> And you are sure it is the logs that are the problem? If you turn the history plugin off and then join it works just fine?
<0> I haven't tried turning the plugin off - just copying the logs away - hang on
<0> Oops - slight mistake - that was the channel join delay getting everyones IDs
<0> it does _not_ take the same time the second join
<0> I'll try turning off autojoin, and logout, and see if the delay is the same manually joining
<0> deryni: Ok - history plugin off, it stalls for 23s when autojoining 5 channels with a total of maybe 800 people in.
<1> Yes, gaim's handling of chatroom user lists blows.
<0> deryni: Though sounds still occur when it's loading
<0> I'm logging out, turning history on, and then stracing it, with timings.
<0> Sigh - it's not reading the logfiles as I shut it down ... retry
<0> Ok... It logs in to several groups at 22:09:58 22:10 - it reads 200K of text from the first logfile
<2> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1506907&group_id=235&atid=350235 << May I ask if this is "official" gaim devs' opinion and if I can hope in adding this feature?
<1> It is semi-official. It's also probably doable from a plugin (though not necessarily pretty).
<2> I must agree that middle-click is paste... But what would one want to paste on a tab??
<1> No idea, why would I want to middle click a tab to close it?



<1> It has a little X icon.
<2> I have turned them off.
<1> So don't do that.
<2> Well, it somewhat disturbs me and sometimes I want to close more than one tab... The middle-mouse click would be more comfortable.
<1> I fail to see how it would be more comfortable.
<1> Unless you mean having more space.
<1> And you can always use ctrl-w.
<2> yes - more space and you can quickly close tabs with a mouse.
<3> seanegan: still there?
<4> yeah
<4> Make it work for me.
<0> deryni: Looking at the logs - it does some odd things - 22:10:25 open("/proc/self/maps", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 22
<0> 22:10:25 open("/usr/local/share/pixmaps/gaim/status/default/voice.png", O_RDONLY
<0> ) = 22
<0> 22:10:25 open("/proc/self/maps", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 22
<0> 22:10:25 open("/usr/local/share/pixmaps/gaim/status/default/voice.png", O_RDONLY
<2> I tend to have quite a lot of tabs open and want to close them all at once... With the mouse :-)
<0> dozens of times in a row
<1> SpeedEvil: Probably for each person that needs that icon.
<3> seanegan: erm, you mean it worked for you?
<1> tehfox: And I really fail to see how the middle click makes it that much faster than the existing methods.
<4> sadrul: No. I mean make it work.
<2> deryni: now I need to right-click the tab, navigate to "Close this tab" and click it...
<0> deryni: Hmm. That's a bit wacky. Could it be loading it for everyone in a chatroom - though it's not actually needed? Though that shouldn't cause the 'slowing down' thing
<1> tehfox: Use the keyboard, or turn the Xs back on.
<2> I mean... I'm used to this method from Opera and Firefox...
<3> oh. what's the problem you are having?
<1> SpeedEvil: I would doubt it would read it unless it needed it.
<1> But it is possible it does anyway.
<4> I got it to build, and login, and the blist ui ops are being called, but my Buddy List never gets anything.
<2> deryni: yes, these are 2 things I don't want to do :-)... And that's why I'm trying to get info about possibility of this feature.
<0> deryni: it's reading the same icon file dozens of times in a row - and I've not got any icons showing on screen
<5> i was hoping that it could be done somehow with a gtk+ binding, but it appears that it can't
<1> tehfox: Right, my point is we already give you ways to do what you want, you just don't want to use them. We don't really care to add another, which I already said.
<1> SpeedEvil: None in the room user list?
<2> koay.
<2> okay*
<0> deryni: no.
<3> seanegan: that's strange ... i am using the signals to update the list, but that shouldn't be a problem
<1> datallah: You mean from a gtkrc file?
<0> deryni: I'm sorry - I'm horribly tired ATM - would the strace be of use?
<1> SpeedEvil: Possibly, but not to me. You can post a bug with the report if you want.
<0> K
<4> sadrul: Also, the thing is purple. What gives?
<0> I should have a look myself when I'm awake
<0> deryni: thansk
<3> seanegan: what terminal are you using? i am using urxvt.
<4> gnome-terminal and a standard tty
<2> deryni: could you point me to the plugin you were talking about? And would it be possible to add this redundant and useless feature (maybe optionally disabled) if "someone" wrote the patch for it?
<1> tehfox: I said it could be done from a plugin, not that a plugin exists to do it now. And I certainly don't care enough to add it, somebody else might (maybe).
<3> seanegan: does setting $TERM to rxvt-unicode do anything?
<2> deryni: thanks.
<5> deryni: yeah
<1> datallah: Yeah, I don't think gaim or GTK+ export the right things for it to be a binding.
<5> deryni: yeah, I discovered that
<1> It's a shame.
<1> The GObjectification *might* change that, possibly.
<6> Hey question.
<6> Everytime I launch gaim I get an error message about "not finding an access point" anyone know why I'm getting that and or how to fix it?
<1> You should be in #wingaim.
<6> I didn't know anoher exsisted thought this was the only one. My appologies.



<4> no
<7> ciran == Cae?
<8> 1
<3> seanegan: i should probably check for some settings before i set custom colors. i will see if i can fix it
<9> rlaager: yes
<9> once upon a time I actually owned the name Cae on sf, but that was a very long time ago
<9> rlaager: nm, gotcha.
<7> Cae: I was just confused when I saw a feature request closed by a username I didn't recognize. ;)
<9> figured
<9> at some point I'll reclaim a name...maybe...probably not.
<4> sadrul: yo
<4> respond to my msg's
<3> i am not getting any msgs here!
<10> anyone here using gaim with icq?
<3> seanegan: i managed to get my AIM account banned for a while :-/
<4> haha
<11> is there a way of tapping into AIM's buddylist for a given user? i.e. a web service that allows me to retrieve the buddylist names
<12> arooni: I hope not
<11> well given the users name & p***word
<4> sadrul: Still around?
<12> arooni: oh, I thought you meant arbitrarily listing someone's buddy list
<3> seanegan: yep
<4> I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong.
<4> in the meantime... you're using threads? That's not permanent, is it?
<3> what protocol are using?
<3> i am not using threads
<4> gntgaim.c:182
<3> oh, ouch
<3> i had started off with libnewt ... i had to use threads there. i forgot to remove the part here
<9> 'night guys
<13> hey all
<13> I am having trouble building the svn version on FreeBSD 6.1
<13> "-o: not found"
<12> scs: get the beta3 release compiling before tackling SVN
<13> It's compiling right now.
<14> are there any progress reports or news for the SoC that's going on for Gaim?
<15> hey, anyone here have a sec for someone with a quick (if kinda stupid) dev question?
<15> I'm just working with Gaim's dbus interface
<15> and some status stuff
<15> but I wanna be clear about the API before I attempt to implement it all
<3> did you look at gaim-remote? it allows you to change the status of one/all accounts using the dbus interface
<16> sadrul: I still can't reproduce this problem, but it's not just a display bug... apparently my idle time on yahoo is showing to other people
<16> right now I'm set Available, and I'm active, MSN and Yahoo both have me set away and idle
<15> o, awesome, gaim-remote uses the dbus interface now?
<15> ie. I can just not deal with dbus and call gaim-remote like before?
<16> sadrul: if I change my available message, the idle time resets to 0 on yahoo and the away message updates to my available message
<3> SimGuy: if you change your available message, you are supposed to unidle immediately?
<3> kkubasik: yeah
<15> sandrul: thanks, that makes my life a lot easier, all that dbus casting is kinda a pain
<17> hi
<17> i just want to know if the "file transfer errors" are fixed in the cvs version?
<16> sadrul: I don't think necessarily, but I wouldn't expect myself to be idle at all right now
<16> and changing my status to available didn't even set me available on yahoo
<18> the whole thing with yahoo not being "away" until you go idle has always mildly annoyed me
<19> Does anyone here have AR-Smileys 1.9?
<19> I can't get them from the creator's website because it's down
<20> is there a way to make gaim use one icon for the windows in the toolbar?
<20> currently the buddy list uses the gaim icon, then a buddy's window will use that person's buddy icon. if they don't have one it uses the standard aim icon.
<20> is there a relatively simple source code modification that woul make those all, say, the gaim icon?
<1> Probably.
<20> do you have any idea of what file i should look in first?
<1> gtkconv.c for the conversation windows.
<20> you're awesome.
<1> The files are really named rather plainly.
<21> deryni, thank god for that
<20> this is true.
<1> And we have actual comments and stuff now. It's beautiful compared to the code when I started.
<18> it's beautiful compared to the 0.59.x series too
<22> hey
<22> what are gaim's slash commands?
<1> /help will tell you
<1> And /help is contect sensitive, so try it in different windows.
<22> clear, debug, help, me, say


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