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<0> yeah that confused me too..
<0> amm.. you ever use openoffice? that autocomplete feature...thats what I am talkin about
<1> Thoughts_: I have the same problem with this. :-D
<2> emiml: haha ok. I guess we'll just have to wait for someone to implement it. Or is it not something that is likely to be implemented?
<3> or you could implement it yourself
<1> Thoughts_: I guess you could wirte it by yourself
<1> Thoughts_: gaim is using gtkspell so it will be easier to fix that libary first
<2> Emiml: I think that would take quite some time since I dont know the gaim source and Im not very good at C++, which Im guessing its written in.
<3> it's written in C, and several developers knew no C when they started working with gaim
<3> that's such a cop-out
<2> Emiml: xchat-gnome does it very nicely with a list of installed languages to choose from.
<2> err: sorry then, I guess I just dont feel like putting time into it right now...
<3> that's a more honest response - you'd rather someone else waste time implementing it
<4> Could I ask a support question here, or would that be OT?
<3> tbrownback: go ahead, if it's not covered by the FAQ and isn't a wingaim question
<4> 2.0.0b3 gives me about a minute up on AIM, then kicks me for a substantial period of time (roughly a day, seems). Same behavior on Ubuntu and XP SP2. AimExpress lets me connect/disconnect during any of these periods without giving me the boot. Any thoughts? (I thought it might be a port problem, but dropping my firewall selectively or even completely didn't help.) Is oscar not playing nice?
<4> (Thanks for any advice you can offer for tracking the disconnect, I'm not way optimistic...)
<2> err: I do really like gaim. I might surprise you and actually write some code for it :P
<3> tbrownback: since you obviously have access to a windows box, can you sign in with the official AIM client while it's disconnected?
<4> I know Aim Express works, I should have tried the official client first, sorry... brb...
<5> hi all. is there an easy way to send the song playing in amarok to a buddy, like the /media command in kopete?
<3> dipnlik: no, because no one that wants that feature is capable of writing a plugin that works
<5> Err: sad =\ do you know of any non-working plugins
<5> Err: maybe i can try to help
<3> google will find a million failed plugins, if you look
<5> ok, thanks
<6> gaim-xmms plugin stops xmms when I focus gaim window
<6> is it normal?
<3> you should ask the gaim-xmms authors
<6> okiez
<4> Hey, back again. Both AIM 5.9 and Triton keep me connected for as long as I've had them up, each about five minutes. I'm always dropped by GAIM by now, but I could test them for longer if it might be helpful.
<7> bitches and hoes
<3> tbrownback: so you can sign in, and you stay signed in for about a minute and then get disconnected? That's very strange...
<4> Glad to hear it's strange, I was suspecting proprietary sabotage.
<3> Is it ever actually connected? Can you see buddies and such, or does it just say "Connected" - because that could mean that it's *trying* to connect, and not connected
<4> I usually get a message sent and one rec'd.
<3> Does gaim crash, or do you just get disconnected?
<4> Just disconnected from AIM, everything else stays up.
<4> Reconnection attempts timeout.
<3> anything useful in the debug window?
<4> Ah, that's the thing I was looking for! (Sorry, I'm new here.) Does it log debug info when not open?
<4> (It's empty now... but I just opened it.)
<3> no, it seems not
<4> Ah, there's something...
<4> it's just sent the screen name to oscar...
<4> cool!
<4> "Major connection error (invalid data was rec'd on the oscar TCP stream)."
<4> Disconnecting account #...
<4> ...
<4> Not sure the source of the invalid data. Maybe I should try another type of Encoding? Are there others oscar supports besides ISO-8859-1 ?
<3> tbrownback: hm, you'd have to ask KingAnt about that, I suspect - he's the local oscar guy
<3> that's not an encoding error - it's a binary protocol error, I suspect (the oscar packets themselves, not the strings within them)
<3> you said this happens with another client as well?
<4> just GAIM, but in ubuntu or xp.
<3> oh, right
<3> hm
<3> does gaim 1.5.0 work?
<4> heh, why didn't I think of that?
<4> one sec...
<3> it's far easier to troubleshoot a problem that isn't your own
<4> i guess that's true. thanks for all the help, by the way.
<4> Should I wipe 2b3 before installing 1.5?
<4> couldn't hurt, I guess...
<4> I'll be back, thanks!
<4> well... 1.5 didn't work under windows, same "major connection error" as under 2b3, just a little less verbose. I've always been using 1.5 in Ubuntu, which I'm now in. But it's staying logged in, so now I'm doubting how well I tested this before. I'm thinking this might have been a wingaim issue the whole time, and I've broken the cardinal rule of the channel.
<3> heh
<4> But we'll see, i looked at a record I have on transcript of staying logged for 7 mins before the boot, so I'll test everything more thoroughly...
<3> have you asked in #wingaim? someone may have had a similar problem over there...
<4> No one bit when I asked there.
<4> But it's cool, I'm going to try to get longer logs on the different configs.
<4> on the different setups, um, versions and such.
<3> you might have to wait a while in there - I think that the clueful people aren't around a lot
<4> any names I should keep an eye for?
<3> more detailed info can't hurt
<3> I honestly don't know who all is qualified to speak about wingaim, other than datallah - who does a bunch of work on it, or did - but chances are good you'll be able to tell the idiots because they say things that don't make any sense
<3> this is not dissimilar to how you must treat this channel ;-)
<4> seems good advice, generally.
<3> so, it is possible to install 2.0b3 and 1.5.0 at the same time, although you have to be a bit careful (don't install them to the same PREFIX, of course) - you might try installing 2.0b3 and running it at the same time, to see if it screws up in ubuntu
<3> you also probably shouldn't use your configuration files on the second instance, as both versions of gaim would then be writing to the config files :-)
<8> a command-line option to add a path to search for plugins might be helpful
<3> that shouldn't matter for using multiple versions of gaim - or is that an unrelated thought?
<8> i believe one of the problems for running multiple versions of gaim is that the plugins of one version are not compatible with some other version
<3> I can see an option for *overriding* the plugin path (so that ~/.gaim/plugins isn't used, for instance), but adding to it doesn't seem to be useful to me - unless you made non-standard paths for each version and stuffed them in
<3> If you install all plugins globally to the correct PREFIX you're fine; I don't know how many people actually install plugins in a home directory.
<9> Thoughts_: Maybe un-ideal, but you could for the time being maybe run 2 gaims, one in english locale och et andra p svenska locale, at least with aim you can be logged on twice with same name
<8> i was thinking about running a compiled version of gaim without installing it
<3> ah, sure - well, in that case you'd have to specify an entire PREFIX - since the images and such would be missing too
<8> ah yes, hadn't thought about it ... heh
<2> heise2k: thats hardly an ideal solution. Even if two gaim's could be run in parallell I sometimes chat in english with my swedish friends for example.
<10> gaim should really be able to handle not finding the images cleanly, whether it can currently is something else.
<3> you could do what I do, and use correct spelling at all time
<3> +s
<3> deryni: I think it actually runs, but it's ... noisy if you look at the console
<3> it used to run, anyway
<10> Yeah, that's what I was talking about actually.
<3> the lack of protocol plugins is a show-stopper, though
<10> True.
<3> I actually think that the ability to force the path for all three - images, prpls, and plugins - wouldn't be a terrible idea (for images it'd be the base of a tree, of course)
<3> -c can force a config file, and perhaps that prefix could be the base for a plugins/ subdirectory for user-defined plugins...?
<10> That doesn't already happen for plugins with -c?
<3> I don't know - if it doesn't, it should
<3> I would ***ume so - but I've tried to quit doing that
<10> It probably doesn't do it for images, but I would imagine it does for plugins.
<3> you mean smileys?
<8> i think it now does that for plugins
<10> I would imagine it looks under -c for smiley themes too. But not for any of the protocol icons/etc. I think we hardcode DATADIR for that.
<3> oh, yeah, it wouldn't really make sense to have to stuff those under your config file prefix
<10> Speaking of, we should really figure out how we want to handle status icon themes and go with it.
<8> deryni: speaking of which, do you have any opinions about patch #1508458? (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1508458&group_id=235&atid=300235)
<11> sadrul: you are sadrul on sf, right?
<8> yeah
<10> Ok, how can I get firefox to let me open sf tracker attached patches in the browser?
<11> good question
<12> does their server return application/octet-stream for everything?
<11> half the time there's funky php pages between you and the real content
<10> sadrul: As an idea I think it makes perfect sense. I don't know that code well enough to comment on it though.
<8> deryni: yep. i wanted to know how the idea sounds.
<8> thanks :)
<10> I might argue that it would be better to create a new temporary status rather than editing an existing one though.
<11> deryni: can you look at gaimosd and svn head again sometime in the near future please? :-)
<10> Yeah, I built with debug a couple days ago ran into a problem with a bad status in my status.xml then discovered we don't handle missing prpls well and said "I don't have time for this now". =)
<11> yeah, I'm currently crashing when I load it even without --enable-debug
<10> That's more odd.
<11> well, it started about the same time the xml2 crashes started
<11> give or take approx 24 hours
<10> Hm, actually I don't even have it installed right now. I should fix that.
<11> okay, I have a very important meeting tomorrow all day, so I'm headed to bed.
<10> Night.
<13> deryni: yeah, looking at the headers, the sf patches are sent as application/octet-stream. worse yet, Content-Disposition: attachment, so they want it to be saved rather than viewed.
<10> I don't care what they want, I want firefox to have the balls to let me decide.
<14> What's a "PG Channel" ?
<15> one with strippers and goblins
<10> PG is a movie rating, it means "appropriate for children" (roughly).
<13> deryni: yes, I'm not aware of any gecko-based browser that lets you override what's in content-disposition
<13> to force displaying inline, that is. you can always right click Save As to force saving.
<10> Yeah, stupid thing wants to trust that the webpage authors know what they are doing.
<16> deryni: that's what standards are for
<13> well even if they do know, 1 time out of 100 on a given site I might *want* to view inline.
<14> deryni: Thanks
<14> If I have trouble compiling gaim-encryption, is this channel a good place to seek advice?
<10> The gaim-encryption channel would be better (***uming they have one)
<14> doesn't look that way.
<17> Is libgaim part of gaim source now?
<17> How do you get a copy of libgaim, I cant find it?
<10> libgaim is just the core of gaim.
<17> can I rip that up and use it in a web app?
<10> You would need to write a c frontend for the core but probably yes.
<17> What about meebo, adium, etc?
<10> I believe they both use libgaim, yes.
<18> word up kids
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