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<0> but you shouldn't generalize, there are gentoo users that do know what they're doing
<1> the thing about gentoo is, it doesn't do *anything* useful that you can't get somewhere else, and it has piles of attendant bugs and quirks which make it not worthwhile
<0> and don't think they're cool
<1> if they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't use gentoo
<1> so I disagree



<2> Paco-Paco, i disagree, use flags are pretty unique
<1> notsmack: I guess you've never used a BSD, then
<1> because they took that idea directly from NetBSD pkgsrc
<0> yes indeed. But in _linux_ distribution, that idea isn't matched anywhere else
<1> and it isn't useful, either
<2> yeah, i've used netbsd
<0> and if portage is so bad, then ports is equally bad
<0> because it's basically the same system
<1> not at all
<1> it's the quality of the packaging that is lacking on gentoo
<2> Paco-Paco, it's a quality for quantity trade though, right?
<1> which is a poor trade
<2> not if the quality level is fine
<1> and, in fact, the same reason I quit using fedora
<0> that's a decision for a user to make
<1> yes, it is ... and I don't want ot *stop* you from using Gentoo
<3> Paco-Paco: blue apple pie? Sounds like a recipy I need to try sometime :)



<1> but I can use it as a flag to indicate incompetence to choose a real system
<1> Alver: there's some in my trash if you want it
<1> delicious dutch apple pie with little blue fuzzy spots
<3> I don't eat trash pie on weekends, sorry - but thanks for the offer nevertheless
<0> hmmm, delicious apple pie with blue fuzzy spots on it could make ANY person get in a bad mood
<2> Paco-Paco: there are reasons to use a source based distro
<3> Makes you wonder though - something must cause these spots
<1> notsmack: just give up
<1> there *are* reasons, but you ***uredly don't know them
<2> you're quick to judge
<4> nothing stops me from downloading $APPLICATION and installing it outside package management if I so desire to customize features
<2> nor me
<3> hear hear.
<2> but i can customize quite well WITHIN package management
<1> (I compile my own ssh on an old SPARCStation because binaries are all sparcv7, which does not have a multiply instruction, for example ... but I don't compile the *entire system*, because that's stupid)
<3> The only reason I can imagine offhand for using a source based distro is not having access to a suitable binary one at all
<3> Which is why I have to compile most stuff from source on hpux, otherwise I'd p***
<1> and yes, there are a handful of packages I install myself becauase I require features or options which are outside that provided by my distribution ... but it's only a handful, and the pain of a system like gentoo isn't worth it for the rest
<2> i can change a configure setting or masking on a single package, and my system automatically stays up to date keeping that in mind


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