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<0> don't do that again
<1> forget it
<1> not possible to use gtkspell with gaim in solaris
<1> **** a brick
<2> it's too bad he never looked in /opt/csw/lib/pkgconfig
<3> Why would he bother looking there?
<3> Or you know in the handy file that solaris puts down with all the files on the system and the packages they came from?
<2> because if his gtkspell was in /opt/csw/lib, then its pkg-config files should be in /opt/csw/lib/pkgconfig (as I told him earlier)
<2> my solaris box seems to be turned off at the moment, so I can't look and see where its files are
<2> hm, actually it's running - I don't have any idea what's going on
<4> yo yo
<5> howdy
<4> sup
<5> PhenZen, not much :P
<6> hi. when i try to join a yahoo chat room, i always have a box saying that the room is full. any light ?
<2> let me just clue anyone in who thinks they might ever write a package manager frontend - do NOT have an upgrade-all command without a "yes-to-all" option on the conflict prompts
<7> Err: why would you want to upgrade past conflicts?
<2> LSchiere: because the conflicts are self-induced, and self-resolved
<2> the conflicts are "I need to remove this package, so I can install a new version of it"
<4> retarded question..but where can i find a program that will play wmv and mov file on fedora?
<2> google?
<3> yum search (or whatever that command should be on fedora).
<7> totem or mplayer should both be able to handle those
<2> LSchiere: the motivation behind my comments is this piece of crap blastwave thing on open solaris - I rebooted my box and I'm trying to see if gtkspell's pkgconfig file is where I think it should be, but I have to upgrade apparently
<2> every other pkgconfig file is where I said it should be, though, so I suspect I'm vindicated
<7> oh. darwinports is similar to that. it doesn't like to remove old versions when upgrading
<2> yeah, this is freaking ridiculous, though - it's upgrading EVERY package - and if anything depends on said package, it halts
<7> darwinports does something funky where both versions end up installed, but only the newer one "activated"
<2> I would prefer that
<7> though not ideal, I agree, it is better than utterly dieing
<2> this doesn't die - it just prompts at every package
<2> ...might as well die, because <up><enter> is just as many keypresses as y<enter>
<8> deryni: What is ''proper" JID checking?
<3> The rfc and jep I listed in that post, rfc4622 and jep-0147.
<3> Though I do question tha accuracy of that jep in light of that rfc, but that's something I am debating asking on the jabber lists.
<8> deryni: It does something like that. I'm not positive exactly what. I'll take a quick look.
<3> From my quick glance it seemed to just regexp for some 'magic' characters, but I only looked for a second.
<8> At the moment I'm worrying about the whole confirmation issue.
<3> Yeah, it's mostly a would-be-nice, but it's a big one.
<3> s/it's/this is/
<9> KingAnt: ping
<10> charkins: pong
<9> I took a look at that ***ertion error (my bad for not having --enable-fatal-***erts)
<9> We need to at least realize the gtkblist->window so that the gdk window gets created regardless of whether we are showing it right away.
<9> You want a patch, or just a one liner via irc?
<10> A one liner via irc is good
<9> 4085 gtk_widget_realize(GTK_WIDGET(gtkblist->window));
<10> I guess just call gtk_widget_realize() between the show_all() and the other thing?
<9> yup
<10> Oh, cool
<10> charkins: Thanks!
<9> no problem
<10> g-off: Neat
<8> charkins: thanks
<11> oh yeah, meant to ask, is there a good way to get the path separator for the current platform?
<10> Yep
<8> g-off: Glib provides that, but if you're just building paths, you should use g_build_filename().
<10> Yeah
<10> But the patch separator is G_DIR_SEPARATOR for the character version and G_DIR_SEPARATOR_S for the string version
<10> Er, path separator
<8> g-off: Take a look at this for all of it, but remember, you can't use things that were introduced since GTK+ 2.0. http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/glib/glib-Miscellaneous-Utility-Functions.html
<11> excellent, thanks
<0> KingAnt: I think your summary of how gaim.h should [could] be used is good
<10> Paco-Paco: Ok
<12> hi everyone
<10> Catfish_Man: Ahoy
<12> how goes it? :)
<10> Good
<8> KingAnt: I've been meaning to suggest... Should we call it 2.0.0rc1 instead of 2.0.0beta4?
<0> does it matter?
<8> Well, an rc release is more likely to be perceived as near-finished.
<10> I'd rather stick with beta 4
<10> It doesn't matter very much to me how people perceive it
<10> I just want enough people to use it so that we know there aren't any huge, horrendous bugs, and I think that'll happen even if it's called beta instead of rc
<0> sadrul: I think shortest match is actually most appropriate for keystrokes
<8> g-off: You can't use // comments in Gaim. They're a C99 feature.
<3> He also missed the g_build_filename suggestion.
<3> Not that it really matters.
<8> KingAnt: Re: commit 17234, I don't think gaim-notifications-example should be installed into the bin folder. I'd say it probably shouldn't be installed at all. A package could install it into an examples folder, for example.
<11> rlaager: thanks, sorry about that
<10> rlaager: Ok
<2> on the off-chance that Linux_whore comes back asking about gtkspell, the .pc file is indeed in /opt/csw/lib/pkgconfig - he'll just need to add that path to his pkg-config path environment variable
<0> if he didn't get that from your initial instructions, I wouldn't hold much hope :-P
<2> yeah, I did tell him at least 200 times that he needed to get pkg-config working right, and then everything would Just Work
<0> g-off: yay for qlite, and yay for removing // :-)
<11> Paco-Paco: sqlite > libdbi (in your opinion)?
<8> g-off: You should be using g_build_filename() there instead of doing it yourself. ;)
<11> rlaager: g_build_filename doesn't actually make a file does it? just constructs the string path to it?
<8> g-off: yes, it just builds a string path
<0> g-off: mostly, sqlite is just *simpler* (both to fulfill dependencies for, and to configure) than libdbi
<11> Paco-Paco: ya no kidding, after i switched everything over i regretted using libdbi, especially since what i'm using it for isn't complex
<8> g-off: You don't necessarily need to change this, but for the future... there's no need to cast NULL like that when you're terminating a variadic function
<11> heh, the example i looked at had that =)
<8> g-off: really? Which example was that?
<11> http://www.linuxonly.nl/docs/sentinel/
<8> g-off: Interesting. I'm not sure I buy that. I thought NULL was typed as (void *)0, not 0.
<11> ya i thought the same but figured no harm in casting
<13> hello
<13> my time stamps went away....
<8> Red-Sox: Options -> Show timestamps
<14> Hi, is there a way to add a sound to the nudge or buzz on gaim?
<13> 2.0 rlaager
<8> Red-Sox: huh?
<13> rlaager: I'm in Gaim 2.0
<13> No options menu...:\
<13> prefs is there
<8> Red-Sox: Yes, there is. Look in the conversation window.
<13> oh isee
<13> tanks
<15> hi, what should i do to submit a plugin as an official plugin of gaim?
<10> romulo: I guess you could submit it to the patch tracker
<15> uhm i believe it is already there
<15> i will comment it better
<15> and maybe redo it
<15> ive received alot of requests of oficial binaries of my plugin
<15> =p
<15> well, tomorrow ill check if i can submit my plugin cleaned to the patch tracker
<10> romulo: What plugin is it?
<15> KingAnt, it drops message sent from people from your block list on oscar protocol
<15> like gaim should do
<10> For ICQ, I guess?
<16> Hello; two questions regarding gaim's IRC; is there a way (any plugin) that allows you to run a command when you connect to IRC?
<15> yeh
<15> because on aim you cant get messages while you are offline
<16> #2 is if there is a way to make chanserv messages not start a new window
<15> deedubb, everything is possible ;)
<15> if i wasnt going to sleep now, i could code it for you
<15> =P
<16> har har
<15> not meaning it doesnt exist
<15> i just dont know =P
<16> trillian has it, I like it; think I can make more work for you and put it on a todo list? ;)
<8> deedubb: Take a look at http://gaim-irchelper.sf.net
<16> are you ensuring me that it'll do what I want?
<16> since you are likely well-versed in its abilities
<15> KingAnt, so what are the chances of my plugin appear int he official build?
<15> thats for me?
<16> Funny, ubuntu says I already have irchelper
<16> I was talking to rlaager actually
<15> k
<8> deedubb: "is if there is a way to make chanserv messages not start a new window" <- It'll do that. As for running commands on connection, no, it won't. It will do NickServ auth (which is the most popular request for running commands on connection). It also does some other nice stuff.
<8> romulo: No, that plugin will never make it into Gaim. If anything makes it into Gaim, it'd be changes to the core to do that.
<16> thats exactly what I was after; a join would be nice too, but nickserv auth will be good enough
<8> romulo: Unless I'm misunderstanding what you said.
<8> deedubb: joins can be done by adding a chat to your buddy list and right-clicking on it and choosing auto-join
<15> and why not offer an option for that on the preferences?
<16> good stuff
<15> to drop messages
<8> romulo: What exactly is Gaim doing wrong now?
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