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<0> {S Chronic <1> ? <2> I'm having problems with perl plugins in 2.0beta3. When i compile 2.0, with no ./configure flags, and make/make install it, the script works fine, but when i do exactly the same thing with 3.0, it fails with an "undefined symbol: boot_Gaim__Signal at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/XSLoader.pm line 68. <2> err... 2.0 and 3.0 should be beta 2 and beta 3, ;) <2> anyone have any suggestions? <1> yes, 2.0 beta 3 has problems with perl plugins <1> if you need perl, you must currently use 2.0.0b2 <2> thanks - i didn't see the known bug on the main page, and i ***umed if there was a known bug about it it'd be there with the windows timestamps one. :) thanks1 <2> ^1^! <1> apparently very few people use perl <1> because we don't hear many complaints <3> Maybe because it's been totally anemic if not flat broke in every release for the past n years <2> heh, i just learned the language, and it was perfect for one plugin that i wanted to give a shot... mimicking kopete's '/exec' in chats... to let you display output of a local command in the window, and optionally send it to others... a friend was impressed by it, so i quickly scripted it for gaim with perl. :) <1> seanegan: ;-) <1> I think that's what the "bangexec" plugin does
<1> I'm not sure who maintains that, I think it's in the guifications plugins pack <4> slashexec <2> bangexec is unmaintained, but slashexec is in the guifications plugin pack.. yeh, it does the same thing as mine... only not as cool! :) and mine is only 50 lines, thanks to the fact that perl can just do it. heh <2> alright, thanks for the help Paco-Paco, and the tip about slashexec.. i'll know to use it if perl stays broken ;) <5> where can i find API info for gaim2 and perl? <6> http://gaim.sf.net/api/ <5> oo, thanks Err <7> Paco-Paco: correct, he can't do it directly. however, the arguement that JH is using 'there was never a deal, anyone who thinks that you can make a deal about such things is in cloud cuckoo land' makes no sense (ie, why did JH make the offer - unrequested - if he believes such deals are pointless... only conclusion :- to lie to and deceive his fellow parliamentarians) <7> which gets back to the 'who's a bigger liar' thing I mentioned before, and looks like the party is going for 'the liar we know' <7> seems that PC is heading for the back bench, scenes very reminiscent of the Hawke/Keating 'changeover' <8> hi <7> Paco-Paco: tbh, PC will more than likely be the leader for the next election <8> is there any "howto" for building gntgaim in SVN version? <7> which bit of /topic do you not understand? <8> I'm not asking for support... <7> what is a "howto" if not a support document? <9> zorgan, No, there is none. Eventually it will be merged as a ./configure option. <9> (I think) <8> ForlornPenguin: ok, thanks :) <8> ForlornPenguin: have you built it yet? <9> No, I have not. <8> thanks again :) <8> I'm going to "break some more stone" then ;) <8> bye <10> ah..plastik heh. <1> ? <10> Paco-Paco, random.. I was using a bad theme.. heh. <11> is it possible to run ubuntu's gaim and have 2.0 also? <9> yes <11> how would I do that without over writing ubuntu's version? <12> mattwestm: compiling your own one in another prefix <12> and renaming the /other/prefix/bin/gaim to gaim2.0 or whatsoever <11> how do I change the prefix? <12> ./configure by default should install in /usr/local <12> which makes sense <9> Otherwise you can do ./configure --prefix=path/to/directory (or --prefix=$HOME or something) <12> mattwestm: curiosity, why would you do that? <11> oh, I have done that before, thanks <11> oh, I am just testing 2.0 out <12> mattwestm: there are some ubuntu debs <12> which you can revert. <11> wouldn't that overwrite the current version though? <12> yeah, but what's your point on having both installed? <12> if you're not happy you can downgrade and then it's back to normal :) <11> does gaim 2.0 use any new .gaim files? <11> or would those still be in tact <12> .gaim? <9> There aren't any reported problems with going back and forth, and I've gone back and forth w/o problems. <12> oh <12> you mean ~/.gaim <11> yes <12> no, you can safely downgrade <11> thanks <12> for your information though <1> going back and forth isn't a problem, most likely (though you might want to back up .gaim), but having both installed at the same time can cause weirdness if you use the same .gaim directory <12> i've been using gaim2 before beta1 with almost not problem <1> gaim -c can help this <12> ->no problems <12> Paco-Paco: right <12> but you'd end up having logs in different dirs
<1> oh noes! <12> and you'd have to move them <1> you can just rsync them together <1> or even symlink .gaim/logs from one to the other <12> "and you'd have to move them" <12> :) <1> symlinking obviates moving them <1> both gaim directories will then log to the same location <13> um, i think i have found a very very weird bug in either Gaim or the AIM protocol . . . <13> whenever i send someone a URL it kicks me off with the message that someone has signed in from my name at naother location (which doesn't make anys ense because AIM doesn't care if you're on at two locations) and then says my p***word is wrong when i ltry to reconnect. a few minutes later it will let me log in gain. <14> How do I start a 3 way conversation in gaim MSN? <1> PFA: any URL, or a particular URL, and how many times did this happen? <1> PFA: and any buddy, or a particular buddy? <14> anyone? <13> Paco-Paco: it happened three times with two different buddies, and with two different URLs on the same site. <1> can you tell me one of those URLs? <1> what version of Gaim are you using? <13> 1.5, and http://www.greatestjournal.com/users/sn_misc/4019.html <1> hmmm, I can send that just fine <1> without being able to repeat the problem, I'm not sure what we can do <14> How do I start a 3 way conversation in gaim MSN? <1> Mr. Patient, there <6> I think it's best that he left without help <6> it's really unfortunate that I couldn't taser him before he left <1> this xmlnode stuff is called an absolutely unbelievable number of times <1> and xmlnode_to_string_helper is self-recursive :-P <7> Err: heya <6> how's it going, Bleeter? <15> hey <15> I'm looking for a debian installer for Gaim Beta 3 <6> there isn't an official one <15> o rly? <15> but there is one? <1> rly! <12> there is the gaim2.0 beta3 in experimental. <12> (the deb) <15> where do i get it? <12> ben_: apt-get install gaim=1:2.0.0+beta3-4 gaim-data=1:2.0.0+beta3-4 <12> if you have the experimental repos in sources.list <15> oh ok <15> whats the APT line for that <12> same for unstable <12> replace unstable with "experimental" <12> but leave the unstable line as well <15> well actuall <15> y* <15> i'm using dapper <6> note that this is terrible advice, in general - but then, if you randomly add sources based on suggestions from IRC channels, I suppose it doesn't matter much <15> :P <15> I'm not actually using debian <15> I just like the installers alot <15> so I thought it'd be easier to ask <15> but im using ubuntu dapper-drake <12> Err: if he adds experimental nothing will be upgraded. <15> so if that helps <16> adding sources is OK. installing packages from them without a bit more investigation is the risky part. <12> because it's got low priority by default. <12> and it's an official source as well <1> stealing it is easy <6> yes, but it's far easier to screw up a system with tons of sources <1> filling it full of illegal substances and sneaking it across the border is what's hard <12> Err: yeah but i'm not asking him to "add my personal repository with full pin-priority" <6> giving paint-by-numbers instructions for setting up experimental sounds foolhardy <12> still, ben_, there are various forum posts and such <12> with the 2.0beta debs <6> a better idea would be to point him towards some documentation that explains how to do it and what it does <16> ben_: there are probably debs around for that. next time just mention you're using ubuntu first... <12> there was a post on ubuntu-devel by seb128 <15> the ubuntu forums? <15> hehe sorry <15> i was trying to sound all l33t <15> like i've been using linux for ages, you know? <12> ben_: hem you should not be saying that :) <6> ugh, and now we've degenerated into recommending random binaries from internet forums?
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