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<0> Are there any short, example programs available using libgaim?
<0> The doxygen documentation doesn't seem to provide much of a high-level overview.
<1> http://gaim.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gaim/trunk/libgaim/example/
<0> wabz: Thanks
<1> thank sadrul :p
<2> What would be a good all-rounder name for the author of gaim? 'Gaim Team' ? 'Gaim Project' ?
<3> yo
<1> conglomerate
<2> the Gaim Conglomerate ?
<4> i would think "the gaim devs" would suffice
<1> boo :p
<2> Gaim Developers it is
<5> The great minds ***ociate with gaim
<2> while I'm here... I don't suppose a jingle add-on is available for gaim?
<6> "Ministry of Gaim Development"
<7> hehe
<8> hello all
<6> Hi amonkey
<9> hi, can anybody here connect to yahoo chatrooms using gaim?
<9> because i get a message saying they are full
<9> but they obviously are not
<9> any1?
<9> or is this some gaim bug which isn't fixed yet?
<8> where can i get the source for the "message notification" plugin? notify.c doesn't seem to be in the gaim source, although a bunch of other ones are
<10> KingAnt: I think it's fairly reasonable of them. People running Edgy will quite likely upgrade to Feisty when it's released, and thus get a new version of Gaim.
<8> << i'm on feisty right now :)
<10> KingAnt: And from a user's perspective, I'd MUCH rather stick with a set of known bugs on my leading-edge distro than swap them for a set of unknown bugs every other week.
<6> pathfinder_: I have the same problem
<9> yeah
<9> i've googled
<9> and no solution
<9> i hope it'll be fixed when gaim 2.0 final comes out
<11> I am able to join yahoo chatrooms
<12> pathfinder_: working fine for me.
<9> it is??
<11> from what I understand, it's possible to join existing chatrooms. it may not be possible to create a new one
<9> i can't any rooms at all
<11> try 'Programming' (capitilzation is apparently important)
<9> i get a popup saying "failed to join chat maybe room is full"
<9> for every room i try to join
<9> i go to tools > roomlist >then click get list > then select room and then get that popup for every room i try to join
<9> oh yeah im using latest gaim 2.0.0b6
<9> i tried beta 3.1 and it was the same so i switched to the newest one and apparently it gives me the same result
<13> hm
<13> It looks like icons for people on MSN live messenger aren't showing up for Adium users.
<12> pathfinder_: don't worry you can chat in IRC (to give you some relief)
<14> pathfinder_: did you look at the debug output?
<15> I wish gaim looked as shiny as Adium. :{
<16> can i leave an away message on msn, yahoo, and icq protocols using gaim 2.0b6?
<9> if i knew how to then i might
<9> hm nmd i figured it out
<5> yahoo and icq yes
<16> khc, how?
<9> here's what it says when i try to join
<5> Click on the status drop down, select away, then set the message
<9> yahoo: 10 bytes to read, rxlen is 30
<9> yahoo: Yahoo Service: 0x96 Status: -1
<9> yahoo: 11 bytes to read, rxlen is 31
<9> yahoo: Yahoo Service: 0x98 Status: -1
<9> no idea what that means
<16> khc, no i mean by this that whenever any one messages me it will send him a message that i will type it
<5> compengi: no
<16> khc, i see
<16> khc, and even no such plugin for that?
<5> I think there are
<16> do you know any?
<5> You can look it up at sf's plugin tracker
<5> I am pretty sure that I saw one last I looked there
<14> compengi: http://gaim.guifications.org
<16> okay thanks
<17> Hello people. Does anyone know of a plugin for encryption of logs?
<18> Of what use would that be?
<17> If not, where can one make feature requests?
<18> Since the logs are in your homedir, only you can read them
<17> Because I want to be able to save logs of my chats.
<17> Not unless someone has root.
<18> in that case, root can intercept the p***phrase for the decryption anyway, I'd guess.
<5> if you don't trust root, there's no way to make your conversation safe.
<17> Well this is true, someone could use a keylogger. This is still no reason NOT to encrypt your logs. This would prevent someone who wasn't using a keylogger from reading your chat longs, in event they gain root on your system or somehow get your hard drive.
<17> logs*
<5> If you are worried, the easier way would be to create an encrypted partition
<18> ... which he can't, if he's not root.
<5> No reason to have encrytion feature in every single program
<18> A feature request like that would go down faster than a Harlem crack whore.
<17> If you have a encryption partition mounted, are you not still vulnerable?
<17> seriously?
<18> If you can't trust root, you're never safe.
<18> Period.
<17> are you saying im just incredibly paranoid?
<17> i cant be the only one
<18> Yes :)
<5> root can dump your process's memory content anyway
<19> you're not the only one, but that is not to say that makes it any better :)
<18> and why on earth does irssi show the tab completion of someguy1234 as someguy123456789
<5> because he is someguy123456789
<18> This is rather ridiculous
<18> ... oh. Right.
<17> all the nics are registered. sorry bout the nic
<19> Alver: huh? :)
<19> I'm sure not all the nicks are registered
<18> Nevermind me. My irssi theme cuts off the nicks after 11 chars it seems
<18> heh
<19> I bet there are still some random strings of 8 letters still available
<19> oops, ignore one instance of "still"
<18> someguy123456789: basically, you'll have to trust root, and in that case you're safe as it is.
<17> i still see log encryption as a plus in the even your hard drive dies.
<17> event*
<18> If your hard drive dies, you destroy it
<17> most of us dont have the means to properly dispose of it
<19> I just keep dead hard drives around and never throw them away :)
<19> someguy123456789: you can always open the drive and destroy the platters
<18> I smash them with a hammer, then toss them in the bin.
<5> Seriously, use an encrypted partition if you are worried
<20> it's not that hard to dispose of them, a good torx set, and a belt sander would do
<18> Hammers usually don't care about unencrypted logs
<17> i plan on trying some full disk encryption solutions soon
<14> if you're really that worried, you probably shouldn't use IM
<19> datallah: true enough :)
<18> someguy123456789: you are aware that IRC is over an insecure protocol? :>
<17> its not about being worried, its about planning ahead
<19> all this plain text transition is dangerous :)
<18> heheh
<19> er, transmission
<17> but i dont chat persional information over IRC
<18> someguy123456789: focus on the important stuff
<18> Your IMs mostprobably aren't encrypted themselves
<18> so why bother with the logs
<18> They just have to wiretap you.
<17> my chats using OTR are
<18> Those can be cracked easily iirc
<4> if you're concerned about information being extracted from a dead drive, don't store conversation logs
<5> Alver: I am not sure if that's a good argument
<19> you can always speak in code :)
<18> khc: in his case, it is - he doesn't care about it being evidence, he doesn't want it to be read
<5> My money in my wallet is relative insecure compare to my money in my bank
<18> OTR doesn't offer waterproof encryption from what I heard - it just renders the decrypted log useless as evidence (or something like that)
<16> if i typed accidentally message under a specific status can this status be removed completely or erase what i've typed?
<17> there is nothing wrong with trying to secure your privacy as much as possible
<5> rekkanoryo: but... what about gaim's memory that's on disk swap? :-P
<17> that is really all this is
<18> ... I can't say I looked deep enough to get the complete content
<5> compengi: You would need to manually remove it from status.xml
<18> someguy123456789: true, but do focus on the critical parts
<5> someguy123456789: Really, instead of every program implementing encryption, you should just use an encrypted file system
<16> khc, and where can i find this file?
<5> compengi: ~/.gaim
<16> in .gaim?
<16> okay
<5> someguy123456789: It's fairly simple if you have fuse
<18> cryptoloop, right?
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