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<0> hhhmmm. I have a yahoo user who is loosing the buddies from one account on each upgrade.
<0> apparently she lost her icq buddies on a previous upgrade, and her aim buddies on this one
<1> hi everybody, I have a little question concerning gaim-remote: can I get it to work when I execute it under a different user than the user that is currently running? scenario is that I want to make a webpage on my apache server where I can remotely change the status of my gaim, while I am not at home
<2> currently, it needs only have access to your dbus session bus
<1> hmm...how do I grant that? I tried it with "sudo -u user gaim-remote command" but still got the dbus error
<2> you don't have to sudo, even
<3> you'd need the right environment variables
<2> it just has to know the environment stuff
<1> so I have to add some lines exporting the right environment variables in the bash-script I put in /var/www/localhost/cgi-bin/ ?
<4> Someone was trying to do this a little while back and seemed to think it couldn't be done.
<4> But I don't remember the details.
<4> He may also have been trying to connect directly to gaim and not through gaim-remote.
<1> thats sad, because currently I have to login to my computer via putty or vnc and change the status that way, a webpage with some simple links providing the same option would be a lot easier ;)
<4> If all you are doing is running gaim-remote than it might work. I really don't know.
<1> as I said, remote-gaim isnt working when run by the apache-server...actually the only way I got it running is by being logged in as the same user running gaim...even when I execute it as root it doesn't work anymore, gives me always a dbus error
<2> the user is unrelated
<2> I feel like I've said that before
<2> well, maybe dbus checks the user, *too*
<2> but finding the bus is the first part you'll have to solve
<1> elb: I completely believe you :) but that "finding the bus" is the problem ;) I don't know how I do that
<2> there are two environment variables that DBUS uses to find itself
<2> looks like only one, actually
<2> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
<1> thats some starting point to do some searching, thanks :)
<4> Run echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS as your user.
<4> Then export that in your script before running gaim-remot.
<4> You'll need to fix the script every time you restart X, or that env var changes.
<1> I just echoed $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS as a user and root, and I reports the same address, still gaim-remote doesn't work as root?
<2> sudo gaim-remote doesn't work?
<2> what are you trying to say?
<2> how is root at all related to what you want to do?
<1> I took root just as a reference user different to the user currently running X11 and gaim, to see if it is working with another user
<5> can anyone give me example perl code to set an account away and set a specific away message?
<5> i can't find any straight forward code examples anywhere
<6> hey, how do I set a default font on gaim?
<6> everytime i change it in the IM window and type a message
<6> it goes away
<6> after i send 1 message
<4> AlienHunt: In preferences.
<6> it's not there..
<4> mjxg: Look at recent forum posts, someone just posted some code for that.
<4> AlienHunt: Yes, it is.
<5> deryni: i've been looking all day. do you know which forum by any chance?
<4> The gaim sf forum.
<6> deryni: no.. all I see is font size.. not default type, color
<4> 'This is what your outgoing message text will appear' <- Do you see that box?
<6> um..
<6> ah
<6> see it now
<6> thx
<1> could it be that gaim-remote not only depends on the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADRESS but also on something like the user? because I compared the env output and the bus adress is the same for various users
<2> it might
<2> the bus address, however, should _not_ be the same
<2> if you're simply sudoing or some such, you will of course get the same address
<2> but the DBUS session bus address should be different every time you log in, much less between differnet users
<1> ok, it might be the same because I am doing the env command from 2 differen gnome-terminals but from the same session here?
<2> yes, that would of course be the same
<1> but then gaim-remote "should" work if it only depends on the BUS_ADDRESS because that is obviously the same
<1> but it doesn't work
<2> it might also check the user
<2> this is surely documented in the DBUS documentation
<1> *sigh* such an effort for such a little task ;)
<2> well, you're trying to do something dangerous and ill-advised; I'm kind of glad it's hard
<1> maybe it's not the most elegant way to do it, but I couldn't think of a better way to do what I want
<2> it's not that it's not elegant, it's that it's dangerous
<7> :q
<7> whoops :p
<1> elb: maybe, but is there another way (well besides via putty or vnc)?
<2> well, there's certainly ssh and gaim-remote
<2> there's also gaim-text
<2> (plus screen)
<1> thats what I ment via putty, logging in via ssh and executing gaim-remote (wait, I could remember that didn't work, too)
<2> you would still have to communicate teh DBUS session information
<1> I see, I still have to search for a satisfying solution...but thanks for your help! :)
<2> holy crap
<2> at&t (nee cingular) now charges $0.15 per text message
<2> what teh hell is up with that
<2> I just ranted at the poor girl on customer support about that
<8> incoming or outgoing or both?
<2> yes
<8> incoming? outgoing? both?
<2> yes
<9> you pay for incoming text messages?
<2> yes
<2> text messaging is *ridiculously* expensive in the US
<2> I guess to make up for air time being basically free
<9> interesting, and quite strange
<2> yes, considering text messages are cheaper for the phone company
<2> I can talk to my wife *all month* -- literally, all month, without hanging up, for free
<2> but if I send her a text message, it costs me $0.30
<9> do you have monthly subscription fee?
<2> yes
<2> $23/line
<9> only one? huh. we have about 6 different subscription per operator
<2> oh, we do, too, that's what *I* pay
<9> ah, ok.
<10> Hrm, the DBUS mallarkey in the scrollback reminded me of a proposal to add a user bus which is session-independent, which would solve the 'problem'
<11> hello
<11> does anyone know of a way to stop gaim from taking focus (from inside a game for instance) when someone sends you an authorization request?
<2> should you be in #wingaim?
<11> guess so
<11> though i wouldn't ignore an answer if it appeared here
<11> =D
<2> topics are around for a reason
<11> didn't realize you guys felt that way about each other
<2> who are "you guys"?
<11> gaim/wingaim
<2> there is no "you guys", there is only one set of develoeprs
<12> (test)
<13> wolly: Test successful. :]
<12> Thanks :)
<12> I've just set up gaim and there's a small problem adding myself to the buddy list:
<12> I seem not to be able to authorize myself.
<12> Any ideas?
<12> ICQ account, I should add.
<12> Can be solved by switching off a Auth in the privacy options but that's not the real solution...
<14> he should quit saying no to his authorization requests :-P
<15> heh
<16> fotns look horrinle
<16> on freebsd with xorg and icewm
<16> anyone guess why? I have 0 clue
<2> what do you mean by "horrible" ?
<17> about the missing buddy icons, i have installed the svn and in the debug windows i found this
<18> Is there a hyperlink when you click on it it will message someone?
<17> msn: Discarding invalid msnobj: '<msnobj Creator="sssss@sss.com"Type="3" SHA1D="voMRgzBVGyPQvjYvZrTfpBm/V5k=" Size="23824" Location="0" Friendly="MQA4ADQAAAA="/>
<18> like aim?IM=nick something
<17> with the email of contacts without buddy icon
<2> netstat: yes, if you have your URL handlers set up correctly
<2> spiorf: great, if you can figure out the problem and fix it, we would accept a patc
<2> patch
<18> cool, thanks elb
<2> netstat: I believe it is aim:goim?sn=nick
<18> yup , thanks elb !
<16> gaim looks fuzzy under icewm on xorg
<16> weitrd
<16> reinstalled freebsd
<16> and this looks crappy
<16> but looked fine last week
<16> hmm
<2> fuzzier than other Gtk+ apps?
<16> i dunno whats another gtk+
<16> firefox is sharp
<2> sounds to me like you have an unfortunate font configuration for Gtk+
<16> gaim weirdly fuzzy
<16> hm
<16> how fix?
<2> can you get a screen shot?
<16> im a bit new to freebsd so not really
<2> open a terminal and run 'xwd | xwdtopnm | pnmtopng > screenshot.png'; your cursor will turn into a + sign, then click on a Gaim window
<2> if that gives you an error, try 'import screenshot.png'
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