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<0> Is there a web messenger mode for msn?
<1> DarkJesus: kind of - there is a mode which uses HTTP polling for all functionality
<0> For msn?
<0> How do I do that?
<1> yes
<1> There is a checkbox in the account screen. (note that it doesn't work in 2.0.0 beta3)
<0> Oh, it doesn't?
<0> Because msn on gaim (or any other client on linux or windows) won't work
<0> Hotmail won't load either, as well as other pages like ebay
<0> It's my nic...
<0> Anyway, emessenger works, as well as some other web-based msn messengers
<0> So I wanted to know if it were possible to use these web-based messengers log-in servers
<0> Oh yeah, jabber msn transports work too
<1> if your NIC is messed up, all bets are off
<0> Right
<1> there is no way that gaim is going to be able use one of the 3rd party web portals
<0> OK, no worries
<0> I'll continue using my jabber transport
<1> or you could just get a new NIC
<2> how on earth could it be the NIC
<2> may brain may explode just considering the fact that such [non-]logic exists on this earth, much less trying to comprehend it
<1> i've had a nic that randomly corrupts stuff before
<2> yes, that is not uncommon
<2> but this doesn't sound random, it sounds systematic, and it sounds way too much like the NIC is making upper-layer protocol decisions
<3> TOE!
<2> he doesn't have a TOE on his NIC
<1> hmm... I guess if MSN sends larger than normal packets or something
<2> it doesn't
<2> MSN doesn't even packetize
<3> was joking heh
<4> hi
<4> can I ask something, why it's too hard to make video chat possible with msn?
<4> does they use a nonstandard codec?
<5> only thing making it not happen is you not finishing the patch
<4> where's the work-in-progress code?
<6> who said it was too hard?
<5> you could try to get the gaim-vv code that hasn't been touched in however long
<5> it hasn't been a work-in-progress for quite some time now
<4> Coweater, well then, why nobody is interested? unfortunately video chat is a de-facto between teenagers
<5> then by all means submit a patch
<7> no one who knows enough to implement voice and video features cares to
<4> sysrq: on gnome-vv web site, it says gnome-vv will be merged with gaim, (and also they state that msn is not supported)
<5> camcorder: people say a lot of things don't they
<4> rekkanoryo, why it is a big deal if they use a known codec?
<5> you go try and do it and find out
<8> camcorder: no one cares
<7> if developers don't care about a feature they're not going to develop it
<4> rekkanoryo, so developers only care about themselfes? hopefully that's not a generic case
<8> of course it is
<4> LSchiere2, you would not see half of the gnome for example, if that was a case
<8> camcorder: sure I would
<8> well, _I_ wouldn't, because I hate gnome
<7> camcorder: I don't get paid to contribute to gaim. I am *not* going to donate my time to gaim to code some feature i don't care about and have no use for
<8> but seriously, when you pay my salary, you can tell me what to work on, and that's how it is for every other open source developer I've talked to, but in gaim and in other projects
<4> LSchiere2, believe me it's not
<8> fine. then go get one of your more altruistic developers to write it
<8> you won't find any here
<9> hehe
<2> just describe your problem, and if anyone knows they will answer
<10> great, I had changed my yahoo p***word into something that contains ascii extended charecters such as etc. now, for some reason, yahoo websites and yahoo messenger do not recognize my p***word
<10> even though they have allowed me to change it
<10> but I can connect to yahoo messenger through gaim 150
<10> using the same p***word that is not recognized by yahoo.com nor yahoo messenger
<10> I kind of think I know what happened...i`m almost sure that because of my webbrowser or some yahoo server error, they perceived my p***word as being something that is different than what I entered
<10> and that something matches perfectly with the way that gaim send the p***word authentification request to ymsg servers
<10> :)
<11> Whoopee.
<2> Brigitte_: I have no idea how you might solve that problem
<2> seanegan and marv[work] probably know the most about yahoo of the developers present, if one of htem comes back and sees this they might be able to help
<2> (no need to message them directly)
<12> i'm always here...kinda
<12> Brigitte_: gaim uses UTF-8 in general, and i believe it uses that for this as well
<10> alright
<12> Brigitte_: you may want to compare character sets and what your browser wants to use
<10> so that means that I should just cobvert my p***word to whatever utf8 is and try it out then eh?
<12> not really . i mean more checking what your browser is submitting
<12> or possibly taking your p***word in utf-8 and reinterpreting the bytes as iso-8859-1
<10> it is really weird because this only happens when i change it from my laptop i have tried to change it for other id`s as well
<10> and same thing happens
<10> if i change the p***word from my other computer, all workd fine
<12> this is just general advance though, i don't have any experience with this issue directly
<10> so i should just find out what my laptop`s browset is submitting
<10> what`s weird is that gaim allows me to connect with that p***word
<10> yeah I really begin to think so too
<10> i have really ried everything possible to work it out, you know, by trial and error
<10> to no prevail!
<12> yeah, the browser is probably sending the characters you entered in a different characterset
<11> Might be totally useless, but I'd probably try forcing the website to show in UTF-8 and see what it does then
<10> marv, but how comes that what the browser sends matcher perfectly with what gaim sends?
<10> isn`t it easier just to find out what gaim sends and then just make it look like what gaim sent?
<12> the different pages might be set to different character encodings
<10> and how exactly can I find out what characterset is my laptop browser using?
<10> we are talking about windows here and Internet explorer
<13> That sounds like an unwise thing to talk about in #gaim ;)
<14> an unwise thing to talk about on freenode
<10> i know, but this unwise thing is the desperate scream of help to all of you guys :)
<15> i'm here to bug you ppl. Is there any progress on not sending file transers of the msn protocol, through their servers
<13> You should send in the patch.
<13> Sure
<16> is there an xmms-remote plugin for gaim2 yet?
<7> yes; there has been since not long after the first beta
<17> /nick evildennisr
<18> how do i make gaim minimize to the gaim panel?
<18> *gnome panel
<19> its one of the plgis
<19> plugins
<18> oh, ok thanks
<19> iconify on away
<18> something's wrong...
<18> it used to be that when i clicked x, it closed the buddy list window but stay signed on, but now it signs off
<20> i think you are looking for the docklet plugin
<18> i've enabled that plugin by checking the system tray icon box
<18> do i need to restart gaim?
<20> nope
<18> how do i make the icon appear in my system tray/notification area?
<18> ok, i got it
<18> i didn't have the notification area enabled in my gnome panel
<18> thanks, lol
<20> no problem :)
<21> Can anyone tell me how to change my user info? I tried "/set realname newrealname" but it says "No such command."
<21> That's in IRC, I meant to say
<20> you can set the realname from the account-edit dialog
<21> hmm, i'll try again...
<20> look in the 'advanced' tab
<21> I'm looking in Tools >Accounts... no advanced tab
<20> select the account, click 'Modify' button
<21> (I'm using Linux, Gaim v1.5.1)
<21> did that...
<21> still no such tab
<20> there are no 'Basic' or 'Advanced' tab?
<21> no
<21> you also on Linux, or on Win?
<20> Linux, 2.0dev
<20> (windows users go to #wingaim ;) )
<21> ah yes. well, if I can't change it, no big deal.
<20> is there any 'show details' expander?
<20> 'Show more options'
<21> ah, yes - d'oh
<21> found it - thanks!
<20> that part has been moved to an 'advanced' tab for 2.0beta
<20> no problem :)
<21> while I've got you here...
<21> in YM, what is "alias"?
<21> that's what shoes at the start of the line when I chat?
<21> shows :D
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