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<0> Yes, I've checked it, some of commands can be used, but some still cannot
<1> Ji1, you can use /say to send them
<0> oh. Let me try
<0> yes, it works! :D
<0> Thanks egeis
<1> no problem
<1> you know, I thought that // worked too. Did that work at some point in the past and get taken out, or am I remembering incorrectly?
<2> hello I am having a seemingly strange issue with gaim+AIM protocol. As soon as I connect, I am disconnected. my screenname only works with pork and kopete (it WILL NOT work with either gaim or naim) -- I have a feeling there is a malformed bit of text in my profile that is causing it -- could this be it? thanks in advance for your time(s)
<2> upon looking at a gaim -d run i find this (surrounded by more stuff too) : "oscar: major connection error"
<3> ptolomey: Are you connecting through a proxy?
<3> ptolomey: "major connection error" generally means the TCP stream had data on it that it should not have
<3> ptolomey: I would hope that malformed text in your protocol wouldn't cause that error
<2> KingAnt: well my main issue is that it is working just fine (has been for a while) in both kopete and pork
<2> and i have had to do nothing proxy wise in either of those apps
<2> hmmm -- i was diving into the "buddy_list" textr file created by pork im client -- it shows what looks like a blocked buddy that is actually a URL!?
<2> could this cause a problem with gaim -- once it recieves the buddy list
<3> Maybe
<3> Is it possible to unblock that buddy using pork?
<2> I am going to look into it -- the problem is that it isnt an actual buddy -- it was in the text file marked as something else -- i am going to conteact the pork dev to ask what it means
<4> Hmm... anyone else having trouble adding new MSN buddies in gaim 2.0 beta3?
<5> No
<6> i think it was decided that MSN is having issues
<3> Hi warren
<4> hi
<4> I better sleep...
<3> Cool. Good night!
<2> ok still no answers: i have found this in my blist.xml : <block>http://www.dobit.com/emblin/</block>;
<2> why would I ever block a url in an AIM client?!
<2> i swear i didnt do this on purpose
<2> would this little guy cause some "red flags" when gaim tries to connect?
<3> It shouldn't
<2> as in -- an immediet disconnect
<2> hmm
<2> either way it shouldnt be there
<3> Are the <block> tags a part of the buddy?
<2> no
<2> thats the full line cut+paste
<3> Oh, right, duh
<2> i tried going into a working IM client and unblocking the "user" but the change never holds upon next login
<2> this is actually a problem thats 2 years old -- i am only now trying to fix it (im sick of pork for IM'ing)
<3> I'm able to block and unblock that user, and signon with it in my block list with no problems
<2> hmm -- well thats a ton of help (gutsy too) thanks -- i will try other things for now
<3> Have you tried AIM Express?
<2> the one that takes place with a browser?
<2> not in 4 years
<2> i will try
<3> Yeah
<2> wthell -- unsupported browser -- needs >=firefox 1.0 I have firefox 1.5....
<2> do i have to "useragent" switch this to work
<3> No idea
<2> well isnt that special: the aim build 1.5.286 for linux works just fine with my SN.... time to do some digging
<7> Hello Everybody
<7> Howdy
<7> i want each account to be signed in different status by-default
<7> is it possible?
<3> radd1: With Gaim 2.0.0, yes
<7> KingAnt: how?
<3> Click on the status dropdown thing at the bottom of the buddy list and select "New"
<3> And if you want to use the same thing everytime, save the status, then go to Tools->Preferences->Away->Status at startup
<7> KingAnt: i want Yahoo account to be in invisible when signing
<7> KingAnt: but my other accounts must be visible to others
<3> In that "new status" window, click the thing that says "Use a different status for some accounts"
<3> Also, let me know how the application could have been designed better to make this more clear
<7> KingAnt: i'll tell you, in each account status windows, there should be a check box, called , Set default account Status, then show the same choices now shown in gaim window
<5> radd1: alternatively, you could use the mystatusbox plugin.
<7> Alver: in where it is available?
<5> radd1: I believe it's part of the plugin pack. It should be up at guifications.org .
<7> Alver: ohh ok
<5> it'll give you a status box per account that can be hidden
<8> KingAnt: do you include my suggestion?
<3> Yes?
<3> I'm not sure what you mean by "then show the same choices now shown in gaim window"
<8> KingAnt: in set status drop down menu in gaim buddy list window
<3> Oh, ok
<3> I agree, we should do that
<3> Show substatuses in the dropdown thing could get really messy, though
<5> The status ui issue is a tough one - I can't remember any ui design being this hard to decide upon
<8> KingAnt: why?
<3> There could be a lot of information to show
<8> KingAnt: in where
<3> In the status dropdown menu
<8> KingAnt: yeahh, do one thing, remove the new and saved options to and its corresponding dialogs that would pop up when click, and leave the complicated status setting to plugin,
<8> KingAnt: the status drop down menu would for normal users who use same simple status for all accounts
<8> KingAnt: what do you think?
<5> raddy: I'm fairly sure the mystatusbox plugin is what you are imagining
<5> or it'd at least get close enough to be perfect for your needs
<5> Maybe that plugin should be added to gaim by default
<8> Alver: okk, buddy, but i am talking about Status UI that currently exists in Gaim 2.0.0
<5> raddy: hehe, yeah. The status ui is a very, very tough nut to crack.
<8> Alver: shall we leave it the complicated status maninupation to the plugin?
<9> how do you get buddy status to show up in the chat window in gaim2?
<9> e.g "<name> has logged in/out"
<5> raddy: 2.0 beta 1 had the functionality that is now moved to the mystatusbox plugin. Some people found it not scalable enough when used with lots of accounts
<8> Inv1s1ble: enable buddy status notification plugin
<5> that's when the current UI was introduced - which, in my opinion, wasn't an improvement, on the contrary
<9> Alver, you talking about gaim2 vs gaim1?
<9> err..I meant gtk1 vs 2
<5> Inv1s1ble: no
<5> beta1 versus beta2 and 3
<8> Alver: the new status creation windows is simply not-at-all HIG,
<5> raddy: which is why I don't use them
<8> KingAnt: are you there?
<10> can i use gaim on windows ce
<5> #wingaim
<10> uhh i got windows, I must be infective
<10> lets all ignore the freaky windows user
<10> pretend he doesnt exist
<5> Oh, we wish they didn't exist
<5> But since they do, we just redirect them to the room that is created to handle their crap
<10> lol, I'll stay with Miranda then
<5> We care a lot
<5> Heh
<11> Darn.
<5> There was a lot of frustration in that boy's words
<8> Hi KingAnt, current implimention also seems enough, but in my opinion remove the saved status new option, and move those to account configuration
<8> KingAnt: and it won't generate extra information to account status, because "use different status for this account" option is optional
<3> Hi
<8> KingAnt: it won't generate extra information to account status, because "use different status for this account"
<8> option is optional
<3> I'm not sure how removing those two options would improve anything. They don't get in the way THAT much
<11> What are we talking about?
<3> The gtkstatusbox
<11> Why would we remove 'New'? It's really useful, especially now that it prefills to the current status.
<8> KingAnt: in my opinion, removing the two options and removing/improving new status creation window would be very meaning ful
<8> deryni: it would be moved to per account configuration window
<11> What window?
<8> deryni: account creation window
<11> You want to move the status control into the Modify Account window?
<8> deryni: creat/modify account window
<11> The Accoutns window (the one with the list)?
<8> deryni: yeah
<11> How would you do that (that wouldn't be confusing or really complicated)?
<12> that's what i'd like to know
<11> Also, what benefit would that have?
<11> Would you remove the Status creating/editing window entirely?
<11> Because if not then you need two dialogs to set a status and that isn't good.
<8> deryni: actually set status drop down won't be touched.
<11> Hm?
<8> deryni: these are for default account status
<11> Default when?
<8> deryni: when signing in
<11> Under what status?
<8> deryni: i'll explain you
<12> i don't see how the current system for selecting a sign-on status is deficient
<8> deryni: take for example you a have hotmail account and yahoo account
<11> Yes.
<8> deryni: you want to be invisible in yahoo account always
<8> deryni: so in yahoo account configuration dialog, you would be able to set this in , "Use a different status for this account" option
<11> Right, you want to be able to say (for specific accounts) always-use-this-status-when-not-specifically-listed-in-the-current-status?
<8> deryni: no not fully correct
<11> What did I miss?
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