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<0> astronut: did you recently block anyone?
<0> or recently add anyone to your buddy list?
<1> What is the status of voice and video in gaim?
<2> not that i know of - but my buddy list is weird - every time i unblock or delete someone, tehy end up coming back
<1> for msn that is?
<0> Paradoxx: non-existent.
<1> LSchiere2: I jsut read on the gaim-vv site that they were begning to merge gaim and gaim-vv, but that was last year, so no progress has been made?
<2> LSchiere2: so it's possible i unblocked somebody and AOL jsut reblocked them
<2> ya, i cleared my block list 2-3 days ago
<0> some of it was partly merged, but much of that was pulled as being far from ready and an unwelcome distraction from getting other things done
<2> LSchiere2: where's the core file
<2> ?
<0> your system probably has core file sizes limited to zero
<0> see gaim.sf.net/gdb.php
<2> ya, probably
<2> debian build
<0> nearly every linux distro does by default, including debian, ubuntu, redhat, and fedora
<2> 0x00002b57ded625f2 in gtk_font_selection_new ()
<2> from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
<0> try running fc-cache as root
<2> i don't have debugging symbols
<2> wait, that's before crash, sorry
<2> no it's not, sorry, it's after crash
<2> but i have no symbol tables
<0> fc-cache will regenerate the fontconfig info that pango uses to try to pick a font
<0> when pango fails to find a font, it often causes crashes
<2> LSchiere2: ya, thunderbird is crashing
<0> so that's a harmless step that _may_ eliminate the crash
<2> i think a library got ****ed in last night's upload
<3> Newer (>= 2.10 IIRC) versions of pango are supposed to be less susceptible to that crash, but I have yet to see evidence of that.
<2> lets see here
<2> libtiff4
<2> does gaim use that?
<0> if so, indirectly
<2> ya, and i forget how to get a dependency tree, sec
<4> astronut: language
<2> ?
<4> watch your language
<0> yeah, I missed that one. keep it PG
<2> oh, sorry, i missed it too
<2> i looked up and didn't see it, hence the '?'
<2> i downgraded libtiff, but no luck
<0> it would be odd for libtiff to be in a font related crash
<0> there is a gaim-dbg package, you ought to consider installing it and grabbing a new bt
<2> k
<2> it's not just gaim
<0> did you try running fc-cache as root?
<2> so far, thunderbird, firefox, epihany as well
<2> yes
<2> installing debugging symbols now
<0> you might try asking in #debian on irc.oftc.net then
<2> what was that link again/
<2> LSchiere2: in -devel actually
<2> since i idle there
<0> I'm confused
<0> what was what link?
<2> oh sorry, the gdb instructions
<0> gaim.sf.net/gdb.php
<2> i tried restarting X
<2> thanks
<2> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
<2> [Switching to Thread 47527063970176 (LWP 19583)]
<2> 0x00002b39bf0495f2 in gtk_font_selection_new ()
<2> from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
<2> dlgeek.net/bt for full
<2> looks like it's definately a libgtk problem?
<0> paste the full output in nopaste
<2> LSchiere2: that's dlgeek.net/bt
<0> ah
<5> LSchiere2: http://dlgeek.net/bt
<2> or was it not enough?
<0> I missed that connection, sorry
<2> np
<0> I hate the crashes that are all gtk/glib
<0> I'm afraid I can't help with this one astronut, esp. as its hitting other applications
<2> damn
<0> language
<2> oops, sorry
<2> that's not PG?
<2> you haven't seen any PG movies recently
<0> I daily consider changing it to say "G"
<0> I have sensitive eyes
<2> lol
<6> "dang" or "darn", never "damn"
<7> heh never heard of anybody getting offended by that
<6> i am going to stick a combobox and an always-visible single-line textbox at the bottom of the buddylist in gntgaim to change status. does that sound ok?
<2> LSchiere2: what the <censored>? it's fine now
<2> i rebooted
<0> odd things happen sometimes
<0> sadrul: sounds like a plan
<2> THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN LINUX!
<7> BUT IT DOES!
<6> alright. i'll go ahead with it then
<8> Yesterday I had a logging in problem to GT from Gaim... Weird, but now I have none. :-S
<9> is there a known bug, that one can't delete Not Authorized Jabber contacts?
<0> I don't know of such a bug
<0> submit it and ***ign it to faceprint
<9> do you use sf bugtracker?
<0> yes
<9> :( ok, I'll try it.
<10> Hello everyone.
<10> I'm still having some issues w/ perl and gaim 2.0.0b2
<11> Perl should work with b2
<12> (for certain values of "work")
<5> cd
<5> Doh!
<10> Yeah, I think I may have it
<10> So I didn't descend into plugins/perl and make/makeinstall
<10> So Gaim::Account, etc weren't available.
<13> that should've been done automatically from a build with perl enabled
<14> is there anything special that needs to be done to get perl plugins working on gaim 2.0.0?
<14> Perl was enabled when it was compiled, and the script is being parsed, but I get errors when I run gaim
<0> what sort of errors?
<15> hello
<14> Can't load [...]Gaim.so for module Gaim [...] undefined symbol: boot_Gaim__Symbol [...]
<14> The perl script was copy and pasted from here: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/api/perl-howto.html
<13> perl doesn't work in 2.0.0b3, if that's the version you're trying to use
<14> ok thanks
<13> it works in 2.0.0b2, if you want to try it out
<14> ok, can I just make it and run make install, or do I have to remove any files from 2.0.0b3 first? (I am spoiled with apt-get, so I don't get to install things manually much)
<13> you should probably make uninstall first
<13> (from the 2.0b3 build directory, if you still have it)
<14> alright, I'll give it a try
<14> thanks
<16> hi
<16> iam searching for a good tutorial for writing gaim plugins. any hints?
<14> bullzeye: c++ or perl?
<14> oops too late
<13> heh, not C++, C (unless you hate yourself)
<17> was this any hint for bullzeye? :)
<17> i'd like to implement some irc op funktions in the contextmenu of a selected user
<13> wh4t?
<13> if you want to add to the context menus, you'll have to use C
<17> ok maybe with my less knoeledge of c i can handle this :)
<13> the best way to learn how to write plugins is to look at existing plugin sources :-)
<13> it's possible that you have to extend the IRC protocol plugin, as well, if what you want to do is very different from what gaim already supports...
<17> i miss this options all the time :)
<17> iam tired of writing these commands as raw commands ;)
<13> if you can write them as raw commands, you can quite possibly do it as a conventional plugin
<17> sorry?
<17> id like to had a menu ;)
<17> you said ive to learn C and came back next year :)
<17> joke ;)
<13> like I said, if you want to add to the context menu you'll have to use C; if you are willing to deal with a /command you can use whatever language you'd like (C, perl, tcl, maybe python if the python loader works)
<17> ok for the first step this will be hard enough i think
<17> hm found a c plugin tutorial. ill read this. thanks Err
<13> there are plenty of people in here that can help if you get stuck, too
<17> ill hope so ;)
<17> now ill read this tutorial ans stay in here for a while
<17> which ide should i prefer? iam on ubuntu linux
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