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<myren> how can i send an ICCCM atom?
<myren> gnome has hidden the $#@#$@# out of how to do useful things, i think the only way i'm going to change the # of desktops iwith a wM hint
<myren> _WIN_WORKSPACE_COUNT or _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS
<myren> but i dont know how to manually twiddle those commands
<alp> myren: if those atoms aren't working for you, maybe there's a gconf key?
<myren> i dont know how to exercise the atoms
<myren> what can i use to send an atom
<alp> gdk has nice friendly wrappers if xlib is giving you pain
<myren> just make a program? where's xnb when i need it. ;)
<UnNamed> myren: wmctrl
<myren> UnNamed: cool, i'll check it out, thanks
<myren> from the description, it sounds great, thanks again.
<UnNamed> myren: what is xnb btw?
<UnNamed> .NET Binding?
<alp> UnNamed: yeah, it's a c# port of xcb, not yet finished
<myren> how'd you guess .net bindingds
<UnNamed> it was more a confirmation, as other option would be some kind of old x11 tool that has got lost with p*** of time
<syscrash_> i guess xcompmgr is no longer being maintained? i made a quick hack to it so that the offsets of server-side shadows are configurable
<myren> not a java fan i see
<Cwiiis> Is it possible to see the commit history of a particular file with the gitweb on fd.o?
<Cwiiis> In particular, this file: http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/xserver.git;a=blob;h=f1617f6275457b3c378f363c419ef6cb09f7189a;hb=2fde560bbb9c1148f26fd969dc30c4e736672b7c;f=render/picturestr.h
<Cwiiis> Can anyone point me to the commitdiff that completely changed xserver/render/picture.c by any chance?
<tipote> Cwiiis : I bet you're trying to compile Xgl, aren't you ?
<Cwiiis> tipote: Hah, yes :)
<tipote> Cwiiis: well, the solution is to retrieve the Xgl branch
<Cwiiis> tipote: oh, ok
<tipote> the Xgl code in master seems to lack some things like the changes in picturestr.h
<Cwiiis> Wow, there's an hour or so I'll never get back... :)
<Cwiiis> tipote: How do I clone the Xgl branch?
<tipote> replace 'master' by 'xgl'
<tipote> sorry add 'xgl' at the end of your git clone command
<Cwiiis> tipote: Thanks :)
<tipote> you're welcome
<anholt> or from your existing checkout, just "git checkout xgl"
<anholt> or whatever the branch name is
<Cwiiis> Seems the xgl branch fails on the same error though :/
<Cwiiis> (xglcompose.c:134: error: union _SourcePict has no member named source)
<Cwiiis> both the xgl and the xgl-0-0-1 branch don't seem to build... I give up :(
<tipote> hmm, I faced the same problem a couple of days ago, but I've already forgotten what I did ...
<alp> Cwiiis: hasn't been updated against mesa yet, changes shouldn't be big
<[AD]Turbo> hola
<Cwiiis> alp: I'm using an older mesa anyway - If I try to build the xgl-0-0-1 branch, it fails with no rule to make target `strcasecmp.c', and if I build the xgl branch, it fails because render/picturestr.h has changed
<Cwiiis> oh bugger me, I forgot to redo autogen...
<Cwiiis> The xgl-0-0-1 branch builds fine :)
<Cwiiis> so, how does one go about building a recent xserver-xgl? It seems the xgl branch doesn't build and fixing it isn't a simple job that someone with no Xorg knowledge can do :(
<Cwiiis> or maybe it is...
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: if you mean the failure to link the Mesa source files, try git cherry-pick b29b236d88789fd45d823a55dbedb393bb134c5b
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: I don't mean that, no
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: render/picture.c api has changed - I've figured that, the only thing I'm not sure about is how to set a destroy function...
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: IIRC you need to configure with --disable-xorg
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: That isn't the problem here
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: otherwise the xgl branch should be self-contained, make sure the checkout fully succeeded
<Cwiiis> I can build a check-out from 20060725, but latest doesn't build
<Cwiiis> xgl-0-0-1 builds, but it's too old :p
<MrCooper> what's the new xgl branch?
<MrCooper> it's not supposed to build on master
<Cwiiis> I just checked out xserver and git checkout xgl and it doesn't build
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: have you tried #xgl?
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: Wasn't aware there was one, I'll give it a go - thanks :)
<MrCooper> np
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: xgl doesn't seem to be a branch
<Cwiiis> I hate git :(
<MrCooper> didn't the checkout complain?
<Cwiiis> Nope :/
<Cwiiis> And it seemed to list it there as a branch for me...
<Cwiiis> when I did git branches, or whatever the command is that lists branches
<MrCooper> I get git-checkout-index: xgl is not in the cache
<MrCooper> and git fetch said error: no such remote ref refs/heads/xgl
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: grep xgl .git/remotes/origin
<MrCooper> maybe you accidentally created a local branch called xgl at some point?
<Cwiiis> That must've happened I guess :/ Crazy thing is, I almost have it building now :p Kinda interested to see what happens...
<MrCooper> gitk --all might be useful
<MrCooper> git branch xgl would have done that, e.g.
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: Is there any way to pull from a git branch based on a date? I know dates have nothing to do with git, etc.
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: what are you trying to achieve?
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: I'm just trying to get a more recent check-out of xgl to build than the one in Ubuntu edgy, as there's a bug for xv surfaces in it
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: git checkout xgl-0-0-1
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: I built that check-out, but the resultant server wouldn't start due to some problems loading keymaps or something...
<MrCooper> well, the only realistic hope to get it going is using that branch
<Cwiiis> I might try building an earlier package and seeing if that works instead...
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: Thanks for your help :) I'm clearly not competent enough to be using git :p
<MrCooper> np, and good luck
<MrCooper> FWIW, you can go back to any commit on the xgl-0-0-1 branch if you like
<Cwiiis> ah, how would I do that? That might be useful if this doesn't work
<Cwiiis> brb, will quickly try older xgl...
<Cwiiis> no success...
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: git checkout -b <new branch> <commit-ish>
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: thanks - Is it possible to use gitweb to view a particular branch as well?
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: probably, but I prefer gitk
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: I'll give that a try
<MrCooper> it's even worth standing the awful Tk UI :)
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: Sorry to bother, what was the line to check what branches there are again?
<MrCooper> Cwiiis: you mean checking in .git/remotes/origin? Note that doesn't necessarily contain all branches of the central repository
<Cwiiis> MrCooper: Isn't there a git command to list them? I think I did it earlier, but I can't remember what it was...
<MrCooper> git branch?
<Cwiiis> ah yes, thanks :)
<MrCooper> np
<Cwiiis> There are so many commands, I keep forgetting :/
<MrCooper> git help
<[AD]Turbo> hola
<dobey> hola
<[AD]Turbo> hi dobey
<dobey> what's up?
<[AD]Turbo> nothing special, a nice sunday here ;)
<dobey> heh
<dobey> not here
<myren> hey hey
<myren> portladn project had xdg-utils
<myren> which can twiddle a bunch of options
<dobey> ok?
<myren> i spent a while yesterday wondering how to send basic ICCCM atoms
<myren> just following up on yesterdays questions with an answer
<dobey> oh


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