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<0> hey dudes
<0> behdad and others...is there a simple gui-based app for changing languages? honestly, I can't find anyone that knows of one...nor can I find one...outside of gdm startup...anyone?
<1> rejon: there's none that I know of.
<0> behdad: no way!
<2> gnome-terminal?
<0> man, so many ppl. have onelined me that
<0> honestly, I want to just change my lang for my whole desktop to another language...
<0> can that be done dynamically?
<0> or rather currently
<0> otherwise, are we relegated to having to do it b4 starting our wm
<2> i'd be surprised if no distro had tossed together config apps for that
<2> particularly the more international ones
<3> dpkg-reconfigure locales
<1> rejon: you can't do that without restarting processes, no.
<3> :)
<0> aha...right on the mac you have to re-login
<0> arg
<4> there's draklang
<0> aha, in the mac you can change the lang. from their sys. prefs > international and then lang. prefs are effected upon starting new apps
<0> right...
<4> but yeah, all those apps just change the locales.. so I guess you have to restart
<0> is there gnome-applet that does this? (i use xfce)
<0> otherwise, looks like this is needed
<2> if you need to re-login to do anything useful, why do you need a panel available at other times?
<0> well, I don't think you need to re-login, but once you change the locale, then language changes would take effect
<4> you don't need to relogin, you "only" have to restart the applications :)
<0> right
<2> sure, you just have to send a HUP to every running application.
<0> right
<0> so there isn't an applet to do this?
<0> I mean allow for quick selection of langs?
<4> I guess people would ask why it "doesn't work" since immediate changes would be expected
<0> hmmm...i guess would be better to have in the gnome-control-center
<0> behdad: what do you think?
<1> rejon: it's just too hard at this point to make that happen.
<0> yes, I'm not trying to pawn this work off to you guys...just asking thoughts on if this is a good idea, right place for this to happen
<1> rejon: we plan to do something like that when we write a proper locale library. it doesn't have to be anything harder than realize/unrealize, or theme change. but we just didn't have that in mind
<0> ok, anything I can help to speed up
<1> rejon: probably not much right now
<0> ok, where is the spec etc if I want to do now
<0> aka, help out
<0> aka, blog about
<0> aka, do something about
<0> is this one of those close corp. things ;)
<1> rejon: there's not much done http://live.gnome.org/LocaleProject
<1> rejon: best you can do is to join the mailing list and raise some discussion
<0> ok...
<0> man, would be good if we could develop this locale stuff on a larger scale than just gnome
<1> rejon: Bruno Haible has a locale library based on the glibc code that doesn't have a one-locale-per-process limitation
<1> rejon: that's exactly the plan
<0> seems like that project needs to be moved to fd.o
<0> behdad: thanks
<1> rejon: thank /you/
<5> wow
<6> that project mentions 1 to 10 sec, that is to generate something or extra time per start up of plain apps for userS?
<4> jbarnes: you're working on 3D now ?
<5> marcheu: well with glucose I figure I have to do a 3d driver for my cyberblade :)
<7> jbarnes works on X more or less recreationally, afaict
<5> rather like recreational lsd
<7> i should go ahead and preemptively fix the known correctness bug in glucose
<7> since i'm probably one of like four people who knows the locking enough to do it
<5> ajax: hey, why not?
<7> (damn you dri)
<5> marcheu: and how goes the open source nv stuff?
<4> jbarnes: quite well.. I think I just figured how to get EXA to stop crashing all the time
<5> nice :)
<4> and we've got a pile of RE'd card documentation now
<5> excellent, that's a great start
<5> chinese wall method?
<4> french wall method :)
<4> which means, uh, no wall
<5> heh, I hope it's not as porous as the maginot line :)
<4> fun, I actually live in the east of france, next to remains of the maginot line :)
<5> :)
<4> yeah, the stuff is still there, waaaay to hard to remove
<4> btw you have specs for the cyberblade ?
<4> I thought not
<5> yeah, there are some specs though they're not very good
<5> the apollo ple133 chipset docs
<4> ah, these still apply
<5> yeah, but not to cyberblade xps I think
<8> it would be nice if konversation could be setup on a per-server basis to use socks or not (so I can use it with ssh new local SOCKS server to have irc over tunnels like I do now with xchat)
<9> mta problems on fd.o?
<10> hola
<11> Hi
<11> Can I ask a question here?
<12> wouter you just did
<11> Okay maybe a second question?
<11> Ehh no a third one then?
<11> Okay: A fourth and a fifth one? :-)
<11> I'm looking for a 3d-gnome-desktop-window-manager sort of project to contribute
<11> I have 3d experience, and I'd like to help out. Its just that I don't know what the name of the project is.
<12> isn't compiz based on gnome? and looking gl***?
<11> Hm okay I'll look at those.
<13> wouter: you're most likely thinking of compiz
<11> Yes looking gl*** looks very Java based, not Gnome.
<11> Thanks :)
<14> How do i create an application that swallows another application?
<14> A well working example and/or a howto would be great.
<14> Actually even an article on the theory would.
<15> hi
<15> I'm looking for help, look here http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Desktop_Project
<16> ping keithp, anholt
<17> jg: what news?
<16> keithp: gabe seems to be accepting mail for me, but I'm not getting anything from gabe.
<16> keithp: I had, without thinking about it, left my laptop.org mail being forwarded that direction, which is stupid; I've just fixed the laptop.org end
<17> jg: it's sending to jim.gettys@comcast.net
<16> keithp: yes, except nothing has come through since last night.
<17> jg: there's a lot of mail queued for jim.gettys@comcast.net btw
<16> there's the mail....
<17> heh
<16> so why is it stuck on gabe?
<17> dunno
<16> I can (now) send mail fine through laptop.org, now that I've fixed my forwarding to send directly to comcast.
<17> I only see one message processed in the last day
<16> that's boring....
<17> there was a broken q file; I removed it, perhaps mail will flow once more
<17> jg: mail appears to be flowing once more; thanks canary
<16> yup. the flood has started.
<16> I'll be a slightly less good canary now, all my laptop.org mail will go directly to me instead of through gabe. I still have all my freedesktop lists pointing at jg@freedesktop.org though.
<18> keithp: how goes the new xrandr stuff?
<19> thank you crappy switches and routers
<20> lol
<21> Is it possible to compile support into KDrive for touchscreens that are supported under normal Xorg? (i.e. elographics, egalaxy, microtouch..)
<21> If not, does tslib support those models in any way?
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