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<0> running debian testing, can i use that package?
<1> they'll be smoother
<1> no idea, i'd say yes
<0> okay, will be back, hehe, thanks a lot!
<2> hi there
<1> izhirahider: if you figure it out, tell me. i'm reading the old translations again and i can say some are really senseless :)
<1> the bunny dude :)
<2> i have a funny problem: my clock in the toolbar on one monitor stops
<1> fluxbox -v
<2> Fluxbox 1.0rc-gentoo : (c) 2001-2006 Henrik Kinnunen
<1> *06/06/19: * Fix bug #1507671, clock not updating on multiple screens (Simon)
<1> get rc2
<2> that was easy, thx
<1> np
<2> when was rc2 released?
<2> it appears not to be in portage yet



<3> tenner: I translated it using verbatim translation
<3> it makes sense
<1> what are local modifiers?
<1> or better, when does this message appera?
<3> it means XSetLocaleModifiers returned false [read that manpage]
<3> according to Rathnor
<1> mhh, i'll fiddle around then
<3> tenner: are you testing the translations as you do them?
<1> no
<1> should i?
<1> i mean, i cannot get all error messages for sure and the menu entries worked before
<1> besides that i have no idea how to switch to nls. i never did that :)
<3> set your $LANG and start fluxbox
<3> well, you should see if they make sense where they appear
<1> true
<3> at least those that appear in the program
<3> error messages are not so important
<1> do i need to --enable-nls ?
<3> yes
<3> tenner: did you translate lines 37-41 ?
<3> the ones that go in fluxbox -i
<1> yes
<1> i have the original meanings in brackets
<1> like "Start (init)" for init. that was already done, though i dont think that is very good
<1> because those are fixed phrases imho
<3> that's right
<1> that's what i meant with "sounds odd on the second time reading"
<0> tenner: now upgraded to 1.0rc, and followed http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Howto_style_overlay still the question: can i specify the font respectively for english font and multibyte font?
<1> good queston, you can specify different fonts, but the encoding will be your systems one
<1> i am not the font guy bzw. i know nothing at all about utf or iso or whatever
<1> *btw
<1> and i cant write either as you can see
<0> okay, i am trying to regenerate the menu... i saw some where you can specify the encoding for each item....?
<0> looks like the encoding thing is from 1.0rc2, hehe
<1> nice, i have no german locales installed
<0> sorry for the bothering, i am leaving the room again, testing locale setting...:(
<1> mhh, now i have a german gimp and dont understand it anymore
<4> 'lo
<3> tenner: are you translating gimp too?
<1> nope, gimp always came multi lingual
<1> but i never used anything else than the original english version
<3> somehow fluxbox -i doesn't show translations
<3> anyway, I think I'm done
<5> I have a question: How do I know where fluxbox is looking for the menu file? ( I know where it is supposed to be, but fluxbox is using the default internal one, instead of mine after a recent crash)
<6> grep -i menu ~/.fluxbox/init
<6> oh, that might be a lot, actually
<6> try menufile instead of menu
<5> Thanks _markt. :)
<5> Found it. ^_^
<5> session.menuFile: /usr/share/fluxbox/menu
<5> There be my problem.
<5> Fixed. :)
<5> Thanks _markt!
<7> is it possible within X to specify 1 program not to use my window manager
<1> huh?
<6> start it in a new X session
<7> without haveing to do that
<1> dont use a windowmanager?
<6> I don't think you're aware of everything a window manager does for you
<7> no im quite aware
<1> i dont understand what you want to do



<7> i just want to able to run 1 program
<6> without the window manager, it can't gain the focus, it can't be placed below other windows
<7> which does not use the fluxbox
<7> everything else needs too
<1> startx `which xterm` -- :1
<1> i still have no idea what you try to do. what app are we talking of?
<7> ok
<7> i want everything to run as normal
<7> with fluxbox
<6> hack the app's source and add CWOverrideRedirect to its flags
<6> then you'll find out what a bad, bad idea it is to run it without a window manager
<7> why?
<6> scroll up
<1> maybe someone can offer better help if you name the app
<7> audacious
<1> and why no wm?
<7> the playlist editor is so annoying
<7> it is all broken with fluxbox
<1> then dont open it. cant you remove/close it?
<6> the resize thing or something else?
<7> the resize
<6> I fixed the resize in svn
<6> and it relies completely on the window manager
<7> yes i figured
<6> turning off the window manager won't help
<7> ya
<7> i started audacious in x session
<7> with nothing eslse
<7> and it was perfect
<6> oh, maybe it falls back to something if there's no window manager present
<6> anyway, just update to svn
<7> ya falls back to being good!
<7> ok i will give it a try
<7> fluxbox.org is down?
<6> ,svn
<8> checkout: svn checkout svn://svn.berlios.de/fluxbox/trunk fluxbox && cd fluxbox && ./autogen.sh ... to update: cd fluxbox && svn update
<7> dont lo0ok too much better to me
<1> blame audacious
<6> are you sure you're using the new version?
<7> ijust did svn
<6> so?
<7> so yes i just did what you said
<6> and are you sure you're using the new one?
<7> 1.0_rc1
<6> i.e. does the resizing work?
<6> that's not the new one
<6> [13:50:50][mark:~] $ fluxbox -i
<6> Fluxbox version: 1.0rc2
<6> SVN Revision: 4534
<7> ok
<7> ya that fixed it
<7> it still has the "reaks" in the border
<7> breaks
<6> yeah, I haven't determined what causes that
<7> hmph
<6> I'm pretty sure it isn't our fault, though
<7> _markt the breaks are pretty much fixed to what i can see
<7> removed .audacious out of home directory
<7> now the only time the border breaks if it is resized to ver y very small
<6> interesting...
<9> Hello, I have a question about future plans for fluxbox...
<6> a specific question or something that will distract me for as long as you feel like it?
<9> Its about the taskbar. I thought I read somewhere that there were plans to add the menu to the taskbar as a button (like the common "Start" menu in windows)
<9> Is this true?
<6> not that I've heard
<9> Hmm...
<7> dont think that would be a good idea
<9> Too bad, I'd really like something like that
<9> Why not?
<6> there's a project out there somewhere, which apparently has never worked; you might contact the developer
<7> it would not really be fluxbox anymore would it?
<9> I found something called "ftmenu"
<9> it does not work very well, that may be what you are refering to...
<6> yes, that's it


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