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<0> does FC5's kernel have EFI support?
<1> kbrooks: there's maintainers of various desktop related stuff but no formal group as far as I know
<2> I just made a fresh netinstall on my compaq pressario R3000 and the network card isn't recognized this time. I had done this before and then there was no problem at all with the network connection. Is there an easy fix for this?
<1> kbrooks: strange, seems to be a #fedora-desktop on GIMPnet
<3> lesouvage > is the network card in the HCL?
<4> lesouvage: that seems really odd to me.. you did the network based installed... but then you rebooted and the network card wasnt recognized?
<4> lesouvage: but the installer recognized the card and you were able to do a net based install?
<2> kanarip: where can I check this. dmesg shows that there is an "unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter "irq"
<2> Jef: Yes I'm a little bit surprised myself too.
<3> lesouvage > what module?
<2> kanarip: 8139too
<3> can you upgrade the kernel?
<3> update maybe even? :)
<3> I had similar unknown symbol errors in iptables somewhere in 2.6.15
<4> lesouvage: in your /etc/modprobe.conf do you have a line for the 8139too
<4> lesouvage: something like 'options 8139too blah blah blah'
<2> jef: I'm checking
<3> of even an alias eth0 8139too line?
<4> kanarip: he most certaintly has that
<4> kanarip: its the options line which would be the problem
<5> ok, i formed a #fedora-desktop on here. everyone is welcome to join :-)
<2> jef: first line is "alias eth0 8139too"
<4> lesouvage: thats fine... is there an options line
<3> |Jef|, don't be certain, I had two 3com 905x cards of which i had to add the alias lines myself :)
<4> kanarip: he wouldnt be getting the error message....
<2> jef: no
<4> lesouvage: if you do modprobe eth0 in a terminal do you get error messages?
<2> jef: next line is about a scsi_hostadaptor
<4> lesouvage: this is fc5 right?
<4> kbrooks: why the hell would you bother
<2> jef: yes
<3> lesouvage, what kernel are you running?
<6> how can I know the mirror from where a rpm I have installed came from?
<6> looking at the package name is unclear
<2> jef: modprobe etho results in : Fataal: Error inserting 8139 (lib/modules/2.6-1.2054_FC5/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko
<3> izhirahider > i guess there is no way to tell
<5> |Jef|: because i can.
<7> |Jef|: because he's a serial moron
<2> kanarip: I'm running 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5
<6> kanarip: I mean, if something comes from livna, from extras, from updates, ...
<1> izhirahider: the best you can get is the build machine. "rpm -q --qf "%{buildhost}" package"
<3> i noticed :)
<4> kbrooks: so you have no real point.. you are jsut making a channel for the fun of it?
<1> izhirahider: livna has lvn in release.
<3> izhirahider: rpmforge has rf in their releases
<1> izhirahider: anything with a build date after Fedora has been released obviously wasn't shipped on the CD, probably from updates. etc.
<4> kbrooks: i dont see what you are trying to accomplish, there is a dedicating mailing list already establihsed for the 'desktop team'.. if they wanted an irc channel, i think they'd have one by now
<3> other then that i see no indicators
<5> |Jef|: its on gimpnet
<4> kbrooks: then why do you need one here?
<3> you might of course want to run yum list | grep -i <packagename> on a clean machine, or run a query for the package name on http://rpmfind.net
<6> fedorared, kanarip , thanks
<1> I had forgotten. Formal organization in this project often means a mailing list. :)
<1> kanarip: great idea, but doesn't index livna.
<3> lots of that going around fedorared :)
<3> fedorared: on the other hand, we just said livna had lvn in the release name
<6> actually I was looking if the package I had was from freshrpms or extras/updates
<3> and rpmforge had rf... so rpmfind.net could tell whether it is an updates, core, updates-released, test, etc.
<3> doesn't freshrpms use a package name suffix to their releases?
<3> ok, they don't :/
<8> I just did "yum install ipw2200-firmware' successfully. Do I still have to get the driver?
<1> itnomad: no. it's in the kernel.
<8> fedorared, great! thanks.
<6> kanarip: it's ok, the rpm --qf -q hack gives me a plausible answer :)
<3> ok, izhirahider, you could rpmquery --info <packagename> and look at the build host
<6> great
<3> i know
<6> thanks
<3> np :)
<2> I know it's kind of of topic but does any of you know how to check the irq of the network interface using windows xp so I can check if the proper irq is used with fedora
<9> does any one know of a way to copy "/
<9> " on to a new hd?
<3> copy "/ ??
<10> I installed an app that should create a menu entry in the GNOME menu (verified the .desktop entry for the app) but don't see the entry created. I don't think I've seen this happen before. Is there anything I need to do to create the menu entry?
<2> LyosNozrezel: rsync would do.
<3> LyosNorezel > cp -a (which means archive)
<9> I need to be able to boot to this new drive'
<1> LyosNorezel: dd
<3> then maybe dd serves your needs
<9> ok
<9> thanks
<3> dd if=/dev/hd? of=/dev/hd?
<3> izhirahider > cat /proc/interrupts
<3> oops, i ment lesouvage... :/
<10> LyosNorezel: i've used g4u before for disk cloning (http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/)
<2> kanarip: thanks
<10> you might be interested in the 'copydisk' command
<9> sancho__: kool... thanks
<10> quit
<9> is it possible to daisy-chain SCSI cards?
<2> Thanks for the advice and the help but I will do a new install. I seem to mess up things and it can take hours to find out what. A fresh install seem to be the easiest way.
<9> anyone?
<2> I'm back on the network. I hope thiswill fix the eth0 problem.
<9> perhaps I should rephrase the question: is it possible to connect 15 SCSI cards to a master scsi card? with each of the 15 daisy-chained cards connected to 15 devices?
<11> hi guys
<2> Just a question. I had Fedora up and running and wanted to add a mandrake installation to my menu. After the installation of mandrake Fedora couldn't read the partition table while Windows and Mandrake stil could. Isn't this a little bit strange?
<11> When I upload a directory from my windows Xp computer to my samba server I have to refresh all the time to see that directory. I`m useing samba-3.0.22-1.fc5
<11> any idea ?
<12> Yay! I have got FC5 64 bit up and running properly. I also realized that 10 gigs is probably not going to be sufficient for my linux partion. Does anyone know how to go about adding to an already existand partion from an NTFS partion (my windows)
<7> we don't deal with windows here
<7> you can delete the partition with fdisk
<7> use fdisk -l to find your ntfs partition
<7> then fdisk /dev/hdX
<12> opsec, its not "dealing with windows" its simply, trying to take part of NTFS and making into EXT3
<12> opsec, thanks for your help, but i think i am going to need a little bit more sophistication than just simply deleting my whole partion
<7> remove the ntfs partiton
<13> opsec: private please? :-)
<7> if you want to resize your ntfs partition you'll need to see if windows has a tool for that
<12> opsec, thanks :)
<7> i don't use windows and ntfs is windows native
<7> to prevent unwanted damage i suggest you use one of their tools
<7> vigilante: ?
<14> hmm, does the default kernel come with the usb m*** storage device module included?
<14> or do i have to install that separately?
<11> When I upload a directory from my windows Xp computer to my samba server I have to refresh all the time to see that directory. I`m useing samba-3.0.22-1.fc5
<7> uriahheep: it does
<14> hrm :S
<14> opsec: would you presume that most digital cams would make this module load?
<0> uriahheep: that might be a bad ***umption
<14> heh k
<14> anyway i fixed the problem ;)
<14> ttyl
<0> not all cameras function as USB m*** storage devices
<15> Hello, I have download FC5 iso image, and am attempting to create a bootable image for DVD
<15> Xcdroast with pro-dvd gives me a 1 GB error, to which I can't find how to enable the key
<15> k3b does not seem to have this option
<15> can anyone recommend a dvd burner for a bootable image for FC4 ?
<16> copperjohn: any DVD burner, the images are already bootable
<4> copperjohn: ?
<4> copperjohn: k3b most certaintly lets you burn the dvd iso image to a dvd
<15> using k3b, I can only burn the image as a data-file, not as a bootable image
<4> copperjohn: then you are doing something wrong
<15> thanks Jef :)
<16> the data file is already a bootable image
<16> you don't have to do anything besides put a bit-identical copy of it on the DVD media
<16> k3b is fully capable of doing this
<15> is there a distinction between copying the fc5.iso onto a DVD and creating a bootable dvd from the same iso?
<15> what about El Torito?
<16> there is no distiction
<16> the distiction is involved when the ISO image is produced, not when it is written to media
<15> so simply: 1. download FC5.iso for dvd (about 3 gigs)
<16> 2. burn it
<15> 2. drag and drop into k3b as a 'new dvd data project'
<15> burn it
<16> hang on, let me check if k3b does the right thing when you do what you descrive
<17> DrNick: no it does not
<15> thanks drnick, i have done this before with cds and xcdroast...
<16> copperjohn: you want "Burn DVD ISO Image", not "New Data DVD Project"
<17> Tools -> Burn DVD ISO Image
<15> crap
<15> k3b keeps crashing when I do that
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