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<0> cool <1> man has always the answer :P <1> or info if you are kind of "new age" :D <0> its set up default <0> and im not sure if dhcp is on <0> i reset it <1> just for fun, did you tryed ? <0> and when i plug into it <0> nope <0> not yet <0> let me dl it <0> i cant connect to the net <2> hello <1> hi <3> hi <3> I would like to install fedora core on my computer, but I don't want to download an entire cd/dvd. Is it possible to somehow acquire a netinstall image? I have been trying to find one and was unable to
<1> debian has a netinstall, but fedora dont <4> http://fedorasolved.org/installation-solutions/fc-netinstall-ig/ <1> sorry :P <5> Im upgrading fc3->fc4 but it complains about needing python-abi = 2.3, can anyone help? <1> you are using yum ? <5> yep <4> nihm: do rpm -qa |grep -i python-abi <4> what's the result? <5> I think it's because I upgraded yum first, which needs packages which need python-abi = 2.3 <5> nothing <1> be carefull not to mix repos <3> thanks <1> http://stanton-finley.net/fedora_core_4_installation_notes.html#Warning <5> hm, i downgraded yum to fc3, see what happens <3> I've never used anything but debian <4> nihm: how are you doing the upgrade? <5> as-per http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Upgrading_Red_Hat_Linux_with_yum.html <6> which repo you guys think is best? <4> yeah, that's what I thought <5> hmm, I think it has gotten further than before <4> tyy: what are you looking for? <1> lyy in the page i pasted is a colecciont of repos <5> hmm, all good <5> thanks anyway <4> nihm: just go through your system after the upgrade, make sure all the packages are correct. You might find some that are still for fc3 <4> nihm: do rpm -qa |grep -i fc3 afterwards <5> I had to upgrade yum for a previous upgrade fc2->fc3, which was causing dependency hell going from fc3->fc4 <4> I did fc3-fc4 upgrade the same way and had lots of packages that weren't upgraded, ended up with duplicate packages of different versions <1> there is a need of updating that way ? i always used "yum update" and get the lastes package <5> Corwyn, is there an automated way of upgrading them? i have fc2 & fc3 <5> it did cause problems <4> none that I know of, I had to manually remove and reinstall lots of packages when I was done <5> hmm, its 9pm now, its a work server, not my prob ... :| <4> best you can do is identify them and remove then reinstall them <5> hmm <5> cheers <6> broli: cool. thanks, i don't use atrpms <4> nihm: if it's a work server I'd definately take the time to clean it up, if you're doing the upgrade and anything goes wrong afterwards, you'll be held responsible <5> I upgraded the kernel remotely, rebooted & then couldnt ssh in, got a bit sweaty palmed after that. I came in & lo&behold, the server is sitting there, running fine.. go figure <1> he WILL be responsilbe :P <6> Corwyn: not anything in particular at the moment. just wondering which was best <5> hmm, it's only a dev&test server. It's kind of a favour for an old boss, so as long as the webserver works etc, then i will leave it be <6> i hope windows stays ignorant of tools like yum <4> lyy:best is a relative term though <1> i had make stupid thing in production servers and its not funy :S <4> why? windows could benefit from yum <6> that's what i mean <4> it's not yum that's the problem, it's the packagers who didn't properly notate in their packages that's the problem <7> oh, no. Cause windows being better is a horrible thing. <1> why ? <6> JonathanD: exactly :D <7> lyy: I disagree :P <1> windows being better ist good <5> god it would be nice to run a yum upgrade on a bunch of windows clients... this is never going to happen with all the proprietry software though <4> yum does what it's supposed to do, it can only do that if the data it looks for in the packages is correct <7> sure it is <6> no, i personally like yum <7> cause, the linux folks will always wanna 1 up... ok, more like 100 up, but hey... windows... <7> so, the less behind windows gets, the more ahead linux gets ;) <6> i just don't want to see copy cats trying to take yum and making it's own..like what m$ has been doing <8> I still can't get NetworkManager to work right. There seems to be an issue with dbus. NetworkManager reports that there are no devices found, but networking works when manually configured. Gnome-Power-Manager isn't working either, I'm guessing the issues are related. What am I missing?
<1> linux and the GNU its not about destroyng enemies <6> if you looked at vista, you'll see how the gui is moving in that direction <4> let's not discuss windows and the company that pubishes it in here, it's not the place for it...please <6> same thing with permissions <6> ok <4> :) <1> just a reminer :P <1> reminder* <5> the only thin gI dont like about yum is the 20+ seconds it takes to read the package information, apt is a little quicker <6> true <1> true <4> nihm: there is aptget for fedora, I believe <1> bas mistake <1> bad* <9> nihm: yum has been speeding up in fc5 <5> apt also tends to handle upgrades better, coz it is the supported way. Am I right in thinking it is mobving towards yum though? <6> there's a phone call that keeps going off in the kitchen..it's been ringing for like 30 minutes now off and on <6> hehe hell if i'm going to answer it <4> tyy: go answer it :) <6> i have a cell phone <4> maybe it's someone with a million dollars to give to the person who answers <6> all phone calls to that number are for my roommates <6> i'm no secretary <4> lol <4> turn off the ringer, that'll teach em <1> fedora's rpm have special multilib suport, and apt just treat them as duplicated <1> huge dependency problem after apt messing around :P <6> you know what would be cool? if we held like LUG sessions in here on a special subject <4> ack <6> and we post it on a website so whoever is interested can come in and listen <6> and interact <5> i wouldnt use apt on fedora, everyone seems to say that is a bit of a no-no, less supported <4> well, my biggest problem with yum is the packagers, not the program, if the packagers took the extra time to make sure everything was correct, yum would work every time <4> most do, some don't, and that throws things off <8> Corwyn: If you find errors in Fedora Core or Extras packages, do report them to bugzilla.redhat.com <1> the people that make the packages didnt program yum :P <4> Foolish: of course <8> Corwyn: if there are errors in third party packages, report them there. <10> Hi. how to uncomment one line in the makefile using bash script? is it possible without a diff file? <4> hey foolish, pop down to unity, wanna put something past you for your opinion <1> Belegdol: to coment a line use a # ... <1> sorry <1> erase the # <10> i know <10> but I'd ike to automate it <10> an I'm asking is it possible to do without a diff <1> i like perl for treating text files <8> Belegdol: I would use gendiff to create a patch <10> to be more specific: i need to change line 36 from # TARGET = mame to TARGET = mame <10> That is a solution, but a diff for one line seems as using the mortar to kill the rabbit <10> to bad I'm not familiar with vim, cat, and such... <1> quiet a funy picture :P <11> hi .. <11> what are you all talking about <1> about rabits killed by a mortar <11> something linux related ? <1> dif to change one line of a makefile <1> (10:13:05) Belegdol: to be more specific: i need to change line 36 from # TARGET = mame to TARGET = mame <10> tbh, I'd be more happy if a diff would not be necessary <6> Belegdol: use sed <6> Belegdol: you want to do it manually or automatically? <10> automatically, in a bash script <6> let me get this straight <6> you have a makefile with something commented out.. <6> and then you want to run a script that will uncomment it <10> exactly <6> yeah you can use sed..but i don't know why you would want to do that <1> stupid questio, its posible to write one single line into a text file ? <6> why not just programmically take in parameters and create a condition to do something else, do something else <6> Belegdol: is it your makefile or another program ? <6> one where you wrote yourself that is <10> xmame, another program. not generated by autotools <1> add a line at the end with the option :P
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