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<cypher543> k, thx :D
<kbrooks> um
<doojin> hi
<doojin> I'm fresh
<__mikem> fresh for what?
<__mikem> lol
<doojin> I have a fresh fedora
<doojin> I just installed it today
<__mikem> Cool, no instalation smell
<mutk> doojin, Sure better than stale
<__mikem> new instalation smell rather
<kbrooks> um. how do i reinstall FC? :)
<__mikem> sorry, bad pun
<doojin> kbrooks : just reinstall it
<doojin> I need to add korean typing support in fedora
<kbrooks> how do I access my Floppy drive?
<doojin> kbrooks : better search google
<doojin> kbrooks : do you use xwindows?
<kbrooks> doojin: as in X? yes
<doojin> kbrooks : you can open my computer
<doojin> or just computer
<lorien420> Using FC5, I recently did a yum update. In fact, I used NetworkManager to get a wireless connection working with bcm43xx. After updating, NetworkManager and Wireless ***istant no longer believe that bcm43xx is a wireless adapter.
<doojin> and you see the floppy drive
<_priest> doojin: can i open your computer
<doojin> no
<doojin> the computer icon on the desktop
<kbrooks> and then what, doojin
<doojin> you see the floppy drive
<doojin> double click it
<kbrooks> doojin: i dont
<doojin> Why don't?
<_priest> doojin: please?
<doojin> priest : please what?
<__mikem> Sorrry to repeat myself, but where do I install themes for kde
<mutk> kbrooks, 2 ways to access the floppy. Insert disk, and browse using the floppy icon. If you don't have one it may be that the floppy controller was not detected..
<doojin> mutk : nice answer
<kbrooks> mutk: how do I force it to be detected
<bernku> pyqt not found after upgrading to 3.16 version, how can i fix it ?
<doojin> kbrooks : you don't have to force
<mutk> kbrooks, Second way - use mtools and command line.
<doojin> kbrooks : do you have a floppy drive?
<mutk> doojin, Thanks mate :)
<doojin> a floppy drive in your computer
<kbrooks> doojin: yes
<kbrooks> doojin: yes, i do.
<doojin> The linux can detect it automatically
<lorien420> Can anybody link me to a place to file bugs against FC5?
<doojin> kbrooks : do you see a floppy disk drive in computer window?
<_priest> bugzilla.redhat.com lorien420
<heuristik> lorien420, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ ?
<kbrooks> doojin: no.
<mutk> Yes, LInux and Fedora or Red Hat usually does detect the floppy automatically. Some Asus motherboards have weird chipset that seems to trip up the detection. Like may p4TE ..
<doojin> kbrooks : did you doubleclick computer icon?
<lorien420> _priest, heuristik Yeah, couldn't find it. Thanks
<mutk> s/may/my
<kbrooks> doojin: The Computer window is open.
<doojin> kbrooks : I don't have a club, better search google
<doojin> kbrooks : xwindow, floppy disk drive
<kbrooks> doojin: well, the drive isnt working. maybe it isnt even plugged in
<doojin> kbrooks : did you plug it in?
<kbrooks> doojin: I really don't know. I feel nervous about opening up my case to fix it
<doojin> kbrooks : don't feel nervous, it is just nothing
<kbrooks> doojin: i diidn't put the drive in.
<kbrooks> doojin: Dell did.
<doojin> ok
<doojin> kbrooks : Does your windows os recognize your floppy?
<kbrooks> doojin: I dont have windows
<doojin> kbrooks : why not?
<doojin> kbrooks : Dell computer have windows
<kbrooks> doojin: going offtopic here
<kbrooks> doojin: irrevelant
<doojin> kbrooks : no
<doojin> kbrooks : What kind of pc is it?
<doojin> A fedora pc?
<kbrooks> doojin: don't ***ume that I have windows on my pc. i have only ubuntu and fedora
<kbrooks> doojin: a desktop pc
<doojin> kbrooks : did you remove windows?
<kbrooks> doojin: 2 years ago, yes
<LLyric> I think we established that already
<mutk> kbrooks, In a Terminal type dmesg |less Hit the / key and type floppy, and it will search for the word floppy. The kernel should be announcing in dmesg that it detected the floppy and loads the driver..
<doojin> kbrooks : you are probably good at linux
<doojin> kbrooks : and you probably know how to search
<kbrooks> doojin: shush
<doojin> kbrooks : Did your floppy work?
<doojin> It is weird
<doojin> You have used linux for 2 years
<doojin> and you notice your floppy doesn't work now?
<phpmattk_> anybody good with rsync? what flags would i use to sync newer files between machine 1 and 2 rather than just syncing all of machine1's files to machines2s files
<kbrooks> doojin: my comp has been constantly modified (when i was on windows)
<doojin> kbrooks : did your floppy work before?
<doojin> on linux
<LLyric> phpmattk_: "newer"? It will only copy files that are needed
<LLyric> phpmattk_: that's what rsync does
<neilthereildeil> kbrooks: u just edited the shadow file by hand
<kbrooks> doojin: please see above
<neilthereildeil> i tried hashing my p***word and adding it
<phpmattk_> i mean.. i want all the files on machine 1 that are newer than the ones on machine 2.. and vise versa
<neilthereildeil> but that didnt work
<kbrooks> neilthereildeil: no i didnt have the problem
<neilthereildeil> it allows you to change ur p***word?
<doojin> kbrooks : I don't see any
<__mikem> does anyone know in what dirrectory I install kde themes please?
<kbrooks> doojin: kbrooks doojin: my comp has been constantly modified (when i was on windows)
<doojin> kbrooks : you didn't check your floppy for 2 years?
<phpmattk_> the only thing i can get working is syncing all the files from 1 to 2, regardless if 2's copy is newer
<mutk> kbrooks, doojin is making a good point here. Has the floppy - ever - worked before? Or have you never actually used it ?
<neilthereildeil> i manually hashed the p***words and added them to the shadow file
<neilthereildeil> and tried logging in
<neilthereildeil> but that didnt work
<doojin> kbrooks : maybe the floppy drive doesn't work at all physically
<cypher543> how long would it take to format a 40 gig hard drive?
<neilthereildeil> so i delted the p***word field from the shadow file
<neilthereildeil> and not i can log in w/o a a p***word
<kbrooks> mutk: it has worked before, on windows. a man named rick changed the floppy drives and added a brand new floppy drive
<neilthereildeil> but for security reasons, i need a root p***word etc
<doojin> mutk : do you know any graphical package manager for fedora?
<neilthereildeil> how could i do that?
<kbrooks> doojin: do u have fedora core 5
<neilthereildeil> it keeps giving me errors
<doojin> kbrooks : yes
<daMaestro> doojin, yumex
<doojin> kbrooks : I installed it today
<kbrooks> doojin: apps > add/remove sw
<kbrooks> daMaestro: ...
<kbrooks> daMaestro: pup is better
<doojin> daMaestro : where is help files which contain things like graphical package manager?
<daMaestro> kbrooks, ok.. i am glad you think that..
<doojin> oh
<doojin> I already have a terrific manager
<mutk> kbrooks, OK, so in the current hardware configuration the floppy drive has been seen to work using Windows. Good. So check dmesg and see if the kernel see's anything..
<mutk> doojin, There is pirut, pup, yumex and smart available as package managers for GUI. Each has their good points..
<doojin> mutk : the default manager has everything I need?
<kbrooks> mutk: well, i BELIEVE it worked under windows. i recall thedrive working long before those modifications. and i do know that Windows detected the drive (it does read the drive unless you disable it)
<mutk> kbrooks, Ok. Lets ***ume it is physically ok then. Look at dmesg ..
<kbrooks> mutk: but now, the _bios_ and all operating systems will not detect the drive. the bios gives an A: error
<doojin> damn it
<doojin> the default pakcage manager stops
<kbrooks> mutk: well, when i disable quick and quiet boot
<mutk> kbrooks, Ok. If the floppy is not seen by BIOS, Linux has no hope at all in seeing it.
<kbrooks> mutk: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide - thats it
<doojin> hmm
<doojin> Why does it stop processing?
<mutk> kbrooks, Ok . Yes that is the driver. It should say - Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M in there if it finds one.
<mutk> cypher543, What type of system is it?
<cypher543> custom built with a Samsung 40 gig hdd
<kbrooks> mutk: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
<cypher543> i386
<kbrooks> mutk: i lookd for 1\.44M
<doojin> mutk : do you know why the default manager stops for a while and proceed again?
<doojin> mutk : It took me 5 minutes


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