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<0> not there
<1> DarkDespair55 there's an option with system wont startup check it
<0> I did
<2> anyone know any boot diskette...for fedora core 5?
<3> can anyone tell me what /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield defaults to on .16-2122?
<1> DarkDespair55 already read everything
<1> ?
<2> im trying to install fc5 without cdrom nor network.....js hdd and floppy
<0> reading
<0> http://www.thisiscool.com/fcfloppy.htm
<0> there's no error code
<4> Will FC5 update to Xorg 7.1?
<0> just the "READING CD" sound....then crash
<5> Khaytsus: no
<5> Khaytsus: and why would you want to?
<4> Why would you not want to?
<4> XGL
<1> DarkDespair55 I suggest you take your notebook to the technician
<6> cslhace: probably the best thing is to put a spare CDROM drive in the machine temporarily. Or permanently. You can get one for like $20.
<5> Khaytsus: news flash... things are "modular" now.. so specific pieces of the X stack can be updated individually
<1> that's all i can do from here
<0> no self fixes?
<2> yea.....mayb i should
<3> coudl someone who has kernel 16-2122 do a cat /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield and let me know the results?
<2> js that im a bit broke....poor student...on pocket money
<4> Magic8Ball: Doesn't mean there won't be updates to the whole tree..
<5> Khaytsus: upgrading all of X to get bling... bling which is being integrated in rawhide at the moment.. is foolhardy
<6> Wulfie: I get '9'
<7> Wulfie: 11
<5> Khaytsus: why ask the question.. if YOU know the answer?
<1> DarkDespair55 well I gave you the troubleshooting site for it see what you can do
<8> Wulfie, 9
<0> well i saw that
<4> Magic8Ball: It was a damn simple question, not an excuse to be an ***hole,
<3> Sonar_Gal: what kernel do you have?
<0> they all say GO INTO THE BIOS do do xyz
<5> Khaytsus: im being truthful.. intepret it as you wish
<4> No, you're being an ***.
<7> 2.6.16-1.2111_FC5
<5> Khaytsus: fine im being an ***... doesnt change the state of things
<7> Whoops, I have not rebooted since the upgrade. hehe
<5> Khaytsus: next question
<7> brb
<4> No, not for you. Ignore for you.
<0> Can't try any fixes
<0> They all require getting into the bios
<4> Oh no wander.. Jef.
<9> lol
<4> THIS is why I ignored you long ago
<9> was waiting to see how long it took for you to get that
<1> DarkDespair55 if it wont boot then I can't suggest anything nomore exept that you need a technician
<0> any hardware stuff like taking something out/putting it back in or something
<0> haven't tried physical fixes cause I don't know how to do them
<1> DarkDespair55 then don't
<0> Before I take it to a tech I want to know if FC5 will mess it up again
<10> cslhace: http://www.fedorafaq.org/#floppyinstall if you didn't catch this when DarkDespair55 pasted it
<4> No need to be a damned jerk about *. "No, it will be in FC6" would have been the apporopriate answer.
<1> DarkDespair55 ask the tech he will tell you what to do
<5> Khaytsus: i said no
<0> ok
<0> cslhace http://www.thisiscool.com/fcfloppy.htm is the direct link in case you cant get2 fedora 4 some reason
<11> if i reinstall FC3what all will that wipre out on my hdd?
<0> usually formats and downgrades do....
<0> especially if you use a diff. filesystem....
<0> partitioning isnt friendly with data :P\
<11> DarkDespair55: are you talking to me?
<0> yeah
<11> no, im currently running FC3
<7> Wulfie: 9 now. hehe
<0> Reinstall, right?
<11> if i just reinstall FC3 again, will all my services etc be wiped?
<0> The setup program will wipe your data
<0> yes
<11> what about upgrade?
<0> 3 to 5? definitely.
<11> noo
<11> in running 3
<0> any reinstall/repair/upgrade will wipe your data.
<11> what i selected "uprade" on the installation DVD?
<11> ohh crap
<4> IT WILL NOT wipe data on upgrade.
<12> heh
<0> I installed FC4
<0> and then upgraded and it wiped everything.
<5> DarkDespair55: uhm
<4> You di something wrong.
<12> DarkDespair55: you did it wrong :P
<1> DarkDespair55 defenatly wrong
<0> Hm. Doesn't Fedora rework the core and filesystem with an upgrade?
<5> DarkDespair55: while I definitely don't recommend upgrades... that sort of thing is certaintly not expected... and you should always do backups of personal data before an os install or upgrade
<5> DarkDespair55: rework system files != data
<0> A bit too late for that....oh well
<1> DarkDespair55 I upgrated from fedora4 to 5
<5> DarkDespair55: an upgrade does not touch /home at all
<13> DarkDespair55, totally wrong :)
<5> DarkDespair55: an upgrade does not change the partioning layout or delete filesystems
<5> DarkDespair55: an upgrade does a specialized form of what yum update's do
<0> if you changed filesystems it would wipe everything right
<5> DarkDespair55: you get no option to change filesystems in an upgrade
<0> Something went wrong then...
<5> DarkDespair55: oh i ***ure you.. it did
<0> Something's wrong with my cd
<5> DarkDespair55: sounds to me like you did a new install and not an upgrade
<0> said upgrade
<5> DarkDespair55: the upgrade option in the installer doesn't give you any walk through about partitioning or filesystem changes
<11> so i should not upgrade?
<11> i have reiserfs
<11> will reiser pose any threat?
<11> will i mess up?
<11> it*
<0> back stuff up
<11> the server itself if backing up my computer
<0> oh then you should upgrade....upgrades tend to mess things up...i first noticed when i had Win ME and switched to XP...
<11> i can avoid reinstalling if i can fix the p***word
<11> can someone help me fix the root pasword plz
<11> i cannot log into root
<14> neilthereildeil: use a DOS boot disk to edit the file that contains the root p***word. you may have to create a new MD5 hash (ow whatever linux uses to encrypt p***words)
<14> that should work
<11> ok
<14> i dunno what file to edit though, maybe someone else knows
<11> how can u jus hash a single string?
<14> you would need to use an application for it
<11> which one?
<14> actually, i don't think a DOS bootdisk will read a linux filesystem, so nvm
<14> you can use the md5sum app included with linux to make a hash, i suppose
<14> or maybe that is only for files
<11> yea
<11> thats only for files
<11> i need one for just a string
<14> ah
<14> well, i don't know then. sorry
<11> oh
<11> ok
<11> does anyone else know how i can manually change a p***word?
<15> man p***wd
<6> neilthereildeil: just remove the p***word field from the proper entry in /etc/shadow
<6> then you can log in with a null p***word
<5> neilthereildeil: to change the root p***word.. without knowing the current root p***word... you need to reboot into single user mode .. and from that console prompt you can use p***wd to change root's p***word
<6> but, seriously, reboot into single user mode
<16> This is a random question, but does anyone know of a program to output codec, etc info from an avi at the commandline?
<5> wwoods: i cant WAIT till the home directories are encrypted by default
<5> wwoods: wont recovery be fun!
<6> well, /etc isn't in a homedir, so that wouldn't hurt here
<6> but also: who says we're doing that by *default*?
<5> wwoods: im sure someone will symlink it into a home directory
<6> that sounds like a really bad idea to me
<5> wwoods: some would say the same of lvm by default
<5> wwoods: the pressure to secure laptops by default.. is going to rise..
<6> well that was needlessly ominous!
<11> Magic8Ball: im already in single mode, ut i get errors whenever i try to change that p***word
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