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<0> honestly, one of use should change out nicks :P
<1> hmmm but maybe do a remove X then reinstall X? nahh that wouldn't work too many probgrams depend on it.
<0> *us
<0> well, the dependencies should be restored when you reinstall
<0> unless you've done some major edits
<1> I think it must be the SubSection I took out. Before I did that at least I could get to the cmd line now I can't even get that.
<2> knighthawk: if you can get logged in can you not look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
<1> ToeNad I can log in remotely.
<1> checking now.
<0> would it be possible for someone to upload thier xorg.conf file, then you can download it and replace your existing file, then edit it from there?
<3> cypher543, no offense but if you dont have an answer then dont even bother responding, I am really tired of coming on IRC and asking a question and being answered with another question, there is MANY reasons someone would want to run PHP4 and PHP5 on the same machine at the same time, if you can't think of any reasons then I am sorry.
<0> pr0t: well excuse me for being curious
<1> cypher543, I can grab the one from the computer I'm on right now but the Monitors are *very* different. You think that would work?
<0> the first step in solving a problem is understanding it
<3> cypher543, well just think about it for a second, maybe I have two applications one that requires php4 and one that requires php5...
<2> pr0t: I'm sure that there are many good guides to running php4 and 5 together even if there is not one specific to FC3, you may just have to improvise and learn a little something in the process.
<3> cypher543, I dont want to be rude or sound like an ***hole I am just looking for some good documentation to read up on.
<1> pr0t what do you need to do? I generally run php4 under CGI in those cases.
<3> knighthawk, in my case I want to run php5 as CGI and keep PHP4 running as a module.
<1> pr0t I found docs under 'Learning PHP 5' its available on safari
<4> opsec: :-)
<3> knighthawk, thank you I'll check that out.
<0> why don't you yell at knighthawk? he was basically asking the same question I did. why does everyone jump on the new guy?
<1> pr0t you can certainly do that on FC. (I think I still have a FC2 box doing just that).
<0> i'm not trying to get you in trouble, knighthawk, i was only using you as an example
<1> lol
<5> Do I need to install anything in order to mount an NTFS partition?
<2> knighthawk: and I thought I was the only person running FC2 still on a server
<4> Asim meri jaan.
<6> hi, anyone know a good howto for installing runit on fedora?
<2> asim: http://www.fedorafaq.org/#ntfs
<5> Thanks ToeNad.
<1> ToeNad, Nah I wish that was true. I still have a client who *refuses* to upgrade from RH 9 because its so stable. He actually thinks that FC *can't* be as stable. ::sigh::
<2> asim: np, I love fedorafaq.org ;)
<5> :)
<2> Galik: never seen one, heck that's the first time I've even heard of runit, looks interesting though
<0> here's a scenario... i have one-way satellite internet. at the moment, it is being hosted on an XP system, then shared to aother XP system. i also need it to be shared to my Fedora system. will Fedora still use it if I split the connection with a HUB?
<1> ToeNad what is /var/log/Xorg.0.log supposed to tell me exactly? I can view the log so far nothing is jumping out at me.
<3> CyberSpy: you have no experience running php4/5 on the same machine, you probably have no experience with apache or php period yet you ask me why i want to do what i asked, that makes me mad cause you aren't interested in helping me, it seemed like you were more interested in flamming me that is why i yelled at you, and if that wasn't the case well I am sorry okay.
<3> knighthawk, can you link me to the document you used to get it going on FC?
<2> knighthawk: usually errors are preceeded by (!!) if I am not mistaken.
<4> Can anyone tell me if i have a signons.txt file which ahs all the p***words saved to work as the p***words file for firefox?
<1> pt0t I'm sure there are free docs on it somewhere. (maybe on php.net) but safari is so useful I just go there first now.
<0> i wasnt flamming you, i was only wondering why you need both at the same time. you are right, i have no experience in installing PHP, which is the primary reason why i asked
<4> Is it possible?
<2> if you have an s/ftp server I'll drop my xorg over if you like.
<7> sup
<0> and it's cypher543... i think i'm just going to change my nickname...
<8> exit
<0> that was a bot, wasn't it?
<1> pr0t, http://safari.oreilly.com/JVXSL.asp?x=1&mode=section&sortKey=rank&sortOrder=desc&view=section&xmlid=0596005601&k=20&g=&srchText=PHP+5&code=&h=0&m=&l=1&j=list&catid=&s=1&b=1&f=1&t=1&c=1&u=1&r=&o=1&n=1&d=1&p=1&a=0&page=0
<1> There is an entire chapter on it.
<1> ToeNad, thanks but shouldn't be needed. I have three other computers here with good xorg.config files. I've just been neavous about trying to use one of them.
<9> "due to patent licensing, Fedora can not play MPEG Layer 1/2/3" - you've got to be kidding me...
<2> knighthawk: maybe try Xorg -configure?
<1> ToeNad, Ahhhh I think *that's* the command I was trying to remember.
<0> knighthawk, i don't think anything would go wrong as long as you edited the xorg.conf file before you restarted
<0> and set the correct values, of course
<2> knighthawk: some of the tools I've used in the past just don't seem availible (like xorgconfig and xorgcfg)
<2> knighthawk: I think that Xorg --config filename.conf will work as well
<2> damn X11/Xorg! so many configuration options so little patience!
<1> ToeNad yeah that's what I'm running into its been so long since I've had to do this from the command line and the tools I used to use then aren't there anymore.
<2> :)
<9> Okay, so Fedora officially can not play MP3s?
<4> Can anyone tell me if i have a signons.txt file which ahs all the p***words saved to work as the p***words file for firefox?
<2> knighthawk: the funny thing is that my xorg.conf is all messed up too, I just don't have local access to it at the moment :P
<6> liquoredonlife: fedora can play mp3 it's just not distributed with the distro, u need to install it separately
<2> liquoredonlife: try fedorafaq.org
<0> liquoredonlife: it can if you install the codec
<0> oops, Galik got there first, sorry
<2> liquoredonlife: fedora doesn't encourage non-free software and fileformats but that doesn't stop you from installing an application which will play that file format
<9> thanks for the link, this helps a lot.
<2> wow, I just wasted hours here instead of working, and didn't get all but one of my questions answered. Ah well, hope you all have a good night!
<1> (how many people are going to ask this today??) liquoredonlife you have to get the rpms from livna.org instructions are available at fedorafaq.org
<9> first time i've heard of the site. i just downloaded the iso, burned, installed, and been googling without much luck. guess i'll have to adjust my queries a bit.
<5> ToeNad: I installed kmod-ntfs, but when I do "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows" it says mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs'
<9> helix's site ****s imnsho.
<1> helix ****s imnsho
<9> i'll drink to that. xmms has been more friendly to me.
<7> anyone here use mailman on fedora
<1> liquoredonlife, np its just I've told like 10 people today who *all* ***umed that there was no way to get mp3s working on FC
<9> knighthawk, it would've been nice if the error message pointed out a link to the website or something
<1> mplayer is very nice and has a plugin for FireFox that is awesome.
<9> rather than sounding like the stubborn parent.
<7> .
<1> liquoredonlife, yeah except FC can have *no* official ties to mp3
<10> Is anyone packaging distcc for FC5 ?
<11> I take it you guys mean the player, not the op? heh
<7> no one uses mailman
<11> oh wait sorry hehe
<12> is there openmosix for fedora?
<9> yeah, i understand. yum install xms-mp3. beautiful. i can now stream with glee. :]
<0> what's better than Bochs?
<12> anyone?
<0> DragonRift: i wasn't able to find anything on their site. however, they have an irc channel on freenode. just join #openmosix
<0> you can try asking there
<13> is anyone else having trouble with the vlc package from livna?
<13> :S
<14> hi.. do I use the rh bugzilla to file a bug against a package in extras?
<14> er.. I see that I do. nevermind.
<13> hye, Foolish
<15> hey
<16> :(
<16> this printer is really giving me a headache
<17> given a .src.rpm file, how do I build it?
<17> rpmbuild seems to want a .spec file..
<0> what exactly is "polling"? I noticed the "POLL AND BE MUTED" thing in the topic
<0> is that like regular voting or is it some irc term?
<18> cypher543, as in to repeatedly ask for help
<0> ah, thx
<17> oh, interesting
<17> I thought it meant to ask for votes or or something
<0> me too :P
<17> "who things fc4 is better than fc5?" kinda thing
<0> i suppose that could someone muted also, since it could start a flame war
<0> *could get someone
<0> i made the mistake of asking which GUI was better (kde or gnome) one time
<19> interesting gift: http://www.go-mono.com/download/fedora-5-i386/mono.repo
<19> get the entire mono in a yum repo for fedora core 5
<19> monodevelop included :p
<0> yay! i've been looking for a way to use MonoDevelop on FC5
<19> installing now
<19> the fun part is that it is a yum repo
<19> :P
<0> so would i just type "yum install monodevelop"?
<19> no more h***le with having to hack fedora to work it out
<19> yum install mono-complete
<19> that is what I am doing right now
<0> oh
<0> k, thx
<19> will tell you once it is done
<19> np
<19> i am testing it too man, so far, so good and it is the LATEST edition
<19> with winforms :p
<19> now I have no use for suse at all :(
<19> he he eh
<19> :)
<0> :P
<0> what's the best IRC server for fedora?
<0> i've heard og hybrid, but is there anything else?
<0> *of
<20> mrrcp, hey
<20> i found out why your selinux stuff was saying "can not read file"
<19> cool 3 packages left for mono to complete installation
<19> man
<19> yum install mono-complete
<19> awesome
<21> hi all
<21> does NetworkManager work well in FC5
<19> ok the commands are
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