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<0> The server is up, but the ices.xml file was not created on the yum install. Just wondering..
<0> there is an ices.conf file.. hmm
<1> cypher453: i'm sure I saw "Edit Menus" in the Desktop menu, or somewhere, but either its disappeared, or I'm getting confused with a different distro
<2> are you using Gnome?
<2> cause there is a Menu Editor item, but i don't know if it lets you add launchers or applets to the Applications menu
<2> why not just create a drawer?
<3> what tool do i need to extract a rar archive?
<4> I'm trying to configure dual-head in fedora5, but I could do cloning only not spanning, whenever I switch to spanning the second monitor has problems with vsync, what gives?
<2> Eureka: are both monitors the same brand?
<4> cypher543, they're not, that's the problem
<5> hey all I have a question is there a way I can build up a system (for a server) install everything I want on it then burn it to a DVD so I can install the same build on other machines (NO THE SAME HARDWARE)
<2> well, that's as far as I go
<1> cypher543: looks like I'll have to - but I just wanted RealPlayer (which seems to have installed weirdly without a launcher) with all my other media players
<2> ah, so it's not an applet you want then, dimbles... you can most likely just add t using the gnome Menu Editor
<4> cypher543, what if they're the same brand
<2> Eureka: i would think that it would work if the monitors were the same



<6> Cerial^Killer: I think kickstart may be the way to go
<2> since your X configuration most likely only has settings for the first monitor
<4> cypher543, you mean without touching the xorg.conf
<1> cypher543: where is the menu editor?!
<2> it's under Applications -> System Tools or something like that
<6> Cerial^Killer: this may help http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/24/1724216
<2> dimbles: are you using FC4?
<2> becuase the menu editor is only in FC5
<2> dimbles: try this: open a terminal and type "gnome-menu-editor" and hit enter
<7> Hi everyone. I need help getting ~/.procmailrc to be processed on an FC4 box.
<0> so just to clear this up.. the ices.conf file is for ices0, not ices2..
<7> I've tested all the recipes manually and it works just fine (using `formail -s .....`) but any incoming mail does not get processed.
<6> oh, I initially hopped on this channel to ask a question but got preoccupied. I was wondering if anyone has had any issues getting ati drivers from livna working on the most recent xen compiled kernel in FC5
<7> but the site-wide /etc/procmail setup does get ran
<8> Is it normal that all sombolic links in /usr/bin etc. have read/write/execute permition's for everyone?
<7> Can someone help me with sendmail + procmail? ~/.procmailrc is not being used, but /etc/procmailrc is being used.
<9> Advance:nop
<9> oops
<9> w8t
<6> advance: only write should be availible for the owner, root
<6> so is anyone here using the xen compiled kernel?
<8> Im using reiserfs, selinux=0. But still all my symbolic links are like"lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 May 25 15:04 yumex -> consolehelper"
<6> what is happening is that fglrx is not getting found ( I had it working for a short bit)
<10> advance: and this is a problem why?
<6> advance: that doesn't look normal. but I'm not an expert
<10> ToeNad: thats compltely normal for a symlink
<8> Becous anyone can change them!
<9> ToeNad: mine is =
<6> |Jef|: oh, that is right
<2> is installing SELinux with FC5 worth it? i mean, i hear that it causes a bunch of problems.
<9> all simlynks are chmod 777
<6> |Jef|: my misunderstanding
<10> advance: i think you misread
<8> |Jef|, I just whonderd if its normal ;)
<10> advance: no.. not everyone can change them
<8> Nice misspell by me there ;)
<11> advance: using reiserfs s not "normal"
<10> advance: symlinks dont have mutable permissions
<8> |Jef|, ok, thanks
<10> advance: and you'd know this foryourself if you had made the effort to delete the yumex symlink as a normal user
<8> StillBob, I know. But i like it ;)
<8> |Jef|, Well I'm terribly sorry that i did not take the chance of maybe fxxxxx up my system ;)
<10> advance: yeah thats right... making your own symlinks as a test would have been rife with danger
<10> advance: whatever
<10> advance: instead you asked the opinions of people..whom you do not know.. to tell you its okay
<10> advance: if you cant trust yourself.. why do you trust why i say?
<2> anybody got a big (like almost 800x600) PNG or SVG image of the FC5 logo (with the text also)? i need it for this wallpaper I am working on.
<9> |Jef|: nice point
<10> StillBob: starting exactly 1 week from now.. i am going to be handing out delibrately bad and dangerous advice
<10> StillBob: mark your calendar
<9> like rm -rf /
<9> :D
<8> |Jef|, jesus, watch the bloodpressure. I asked if it was normal. I'm not going to waist any more time arguing about somethim that idiotic. Thank you for "your" opinion.
<12> |Jef|, note taken I will be here to watch
<11> |Jef|: OK How do I apply for ops?
<2> oh, i can't wait :P
<11> LOL
<10> StillBob: thats a question for next week
<10> StillBob: because the answers are dangerous and illadvised
<4> advance, it's not for your reference, some could be exec by normal users, some are not



<11> Hey spot
<12> hehe
<13> StillBob: hey bob
<11> spot: you goign to Nashville?
<13> StillBob: I sure am. I'm giving a presentation on "RPM Best Practices"
<11> spot: I wish I was
<13> StillBob: maybe next year
<13> err... +v
<6> What host intrusion detection systems are people using here? aide, tripwire, or other?
<11> spot: I could just drive down and stowaway in someones room I guess
<13> Yeah, but you wouldn't be able to get into the conference.
<13> they're being strict about the badge checking
<10> spot: best pratices.. surely thats just a slide telling people to use rpm2cpio
<13> |Jef|: its actually just a loop of sean connery saying "YOU'RE THE MAN NOW, DOG!"
<8> Eureka, ok, thanks ;)
<11> LOL
<10> spot: worst webpage ever
<13> |Jef|: no, i think the hypercube website is worse
<13> no, not hypercube. timecube
<13> http://www.timecube.com/
<13> "You have a cyclop perspective"
<2> oh wow... that is bad
<14> well. if you wan't pictures with your bad, bad html there's always arngren.no
<10> spot: have you ever dared to go to the "next page" on the timecube site
<13> |Jef|: yeah, i remember when page 2 was page 1. :)
<2> ugh... why doesn't XP show SVG images in it's thumbnail preview??? that's just dumb...
<10> spot: i so need this on a bumpersticker "You maybe academically retarded."
<10> spot: thats a great quote
<13> Indeed. :)
<15> cypher543, muahaha
<2> che: ?
<15> CyberSpy, whats xp?
<15> cypher543, whats xp?
<15> CyberSpy, sorry :)
<2> :P
<2> that happens a lot
<15> thats because lazy people use tab completion everywhere
<16> After installing FC5, it won't let me start apache... I've run a yum update and everything, yet I still get -- Starting httpd: httpd: Syntax error on line 170 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/mod_access.so into server: /etc/httpd/modules/mod_access.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [FAILED]
<16> I haven't even touched my httpd.conf file.
<2> asim: try commenting out that line and see what happens
<17> Greets. Can anyone recommend the least-grief upgrade from FC4 to FC5?
<16> cypher543: actually, I just found the issue listed in bugzilla.. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=180056
<2> ok, nvm then :D
<6> asim: I used the setup from the "perfect" setup guide which recommended this: php php-devel php-gd php-imap php-ldap php-mysql php-odbc php-pear php-xml php-xmlrpc curl curl-devel perl-libwww-perl ImageMagick libxml2 libxml2-devel
<6> asim: for the yum install packages that is
<18> hrm
<18> i'm having trouble getting this printer to work :(
<2> what exactly is this so-called "perfect" setup guide?
<6> cypher543: well perfecg for some I guess, I used it for some aspects of my setup, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_fedora_core_5_p5
<6> more of a document for setting up an ISP type server
<6> (as it is catered to ispconfig specifically)
<2> ah, thx
<19> Can anyone point me in the direction of well written documentation on howto run PHP4 and PHP5 on a Fedora core 3 machine at the same time.
<6> cypher543: but now that I think of it, its not that perfect as now my fglrx modules will not load :P
<2> lol
<6> all hail the power of remote admin I guess, hehe
<2> pr0t: why would you want to do something like that?
<20> okay is there a Xconfig like tool that can be run from the command line? (my xorg.conf file seems to be messed up)
<2> knighthawk: open it in gedit
<20> cypher543, I can open it with vi but I have *no* idea what's wrong with it.
<2> well, do you get an error?
<2> any hints to what might be wrong? maybe a v/hsync problem or something?
<6> knighthawk: were you messing with the vertical/horizonal refresh rates? :)
<20> cypher543, when I edit '/etc/X11/xorg.config'? no no error. but when I try to start the computer nothing happens on the monitor.
<20> ToeNad, yeah I had commented them out. But I uncommented and nothing.
<2> i had that happen once... somehow, Fedora simply "forgot" my settings. i just did a reinstall. i didn't have any critical documents at the time anyway
<2> i'm not saying you should do a reinstall, i just figured it was storytime :P
<20> CyberSpy, lol
<2> *cypher543
<2> honestly, one of use should change out nicks :P


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