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<0> I compiled pdisk for x86 once. It worked.
<1> okay, I've made it from RH7.2 up to Fedora1... reboot complete. How hard is it to go from fedora1 to fedora4?
<2> LaidBack_01, wow!
<3> i think i should get ks starting from dhcp automatically
<1> keep in mind this is remote work on a live server... so don't tell me put in a cd or something.
<3> somehow :)
<4> LaidBack_01, just download the fc5 dvd and do a fresh install
<4> LaidBack_01, you save yourself lots of time.
<5> ignacio, hey.. think you can if i can install evince without all the gnome stuff like natilus? yum defaults to those deps..
<6> No clue.
<1> shoulda posted about it being remote right off..
<3> ahh, i just have to modify the yaboot.conf
<7> Is there an RPM for the nvidia driver yet?
<0> In testing.
<7> How do I get it?
<1> So... look, anyone do the migrate from FC1 to FC(whatever) ?



<0> yum install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia kmod-nvidia --enablerepo=livna-testing --enablerepo=updates-testing
<8> whats the name of the program that sets frequency of cpu?
<9> LaidBack_01, yea, from each version
<0> LaidBack, either upgrade to FC2 and then FC3 then 4, or do a fresh install.
<1> I'm a FreeBSD guy.. this RH stuff is testing my nerves, thats for sure ;)
<0> If you have to ask, you don't want to do anything else.
<0> You may want to run CentOS instead. ;P
<9> I don't think you can do anything but FCx to FCx+1
<1> okay, so it's a step by step deal, good enough.
<4> LaidBack_01, maybe you are just not a member of the intended audience then.
<0> You can try going from FC1 to 4, but you're on your own.
<10> Shikkie: he can "attempt" FCx to FCx+y
<9> I went from RH7 up to FC5 on one box and only had one hiccup
<0> I've never tried it though. I could probably make it work.
<9> |Jef|, I meant successfully do anything but FCx to FCx+1 :)
<5> anyone using mythtv here? my OSD fonts look really bad in FC5.. wondering if anyone has similar problems..
<10> LaidBack_01: realistically... FC1 to FC4 is going to be no harder than FC1 to FC2
<1> All I was doing was making a little light fun there.. take it easy che. I use debian, slack, gentoo, freebsd... and now apparently redhat. Since I'm least familiar with RH products, they feel foriegn just yet.
<0> Are you yum updating?
<4> |Jef|, but without manual work it wont be like fc5 clean.
<10> LaidBack_01: the BIG issue with a move from FC1 is the jump from the 2.4 kernel... thats a biggie
<9> weren't there changes in the X engine at some point also?
<0> What are you using it for, LaidBack_01?
<10> che: i didnt say it would be the same... i said it be no harder than a jump to fc2 :->
<4> LaidBack_01, i am easy but i am a realist and pretty serious usually when it comes about problems.
<1> OKay, well.. good tnough then, I'll leave it at FC1, let them decide if it's worth it to move to the 2.6 kern.
<1> Seg, just an old web server my company inherited.
<0> Ah.
<10> LaidBack_01: they should REALLY look at CentOS
<0> Sounds more like RHEL material to me.
<4> LaidBack_01, fc1s lifecycle has ended ages ago.
<9> heh, I'd just clean install at that point; Inherited stuff is always scary
<10> LaidBack_01: instead of upgrading to another fedora version
<10> Shikkie: and yet.... when its your job... you don't necessarily get to make that call
<9> which btw, I may be in the position to choose a linux distro for a Jabberd server at work. dual 1ghz system w/ 2GB of memory is my expected
<4> LaidBack_01, fc can be used as cutting edge server ... but that requires work.
<9> system specs... darn enter key. FC5 should be stable enough for that I think; server only.
<1> well, I'll post your guys thoughts cause you certainly have more exp with Fedora than I. What's the benefit of CentOS?
<4> LaidBack_01, if you want cutting edge you gotta keep the edge sharp.
<10> LaidBack_01: long term updates
<0> CentOS isn't an upgrade treadmill.
<1> I mean if it's just stability and all, I'm used to converting RH servers into debian servers.
<9> |Jef|, yea; I agree. But that'd be my recommendation to management (where I work they listen to us 90% of the time; pretty nice)
<4> LaidBack_01, how about debian stable then?
<1> yeah, and as far as cutting edge goes, I'm used to the gentoo way and freebsd way there.
<1> che debian stable is a bit... too old.
<1> lol
<1> I'll just keep on the path I'm travelling currently.
<1> never done it... so why not.
<4> LaidBack_01, but its definitely not something that has fast upgrade cycles.
<4> LaidBack_01, and its stable.
<0> I run Debian on my server.
<0> The glacial pace is an advantage there. ;P
<11> LaidBack_01, with backports you can get a lot of updated software on debian
<10> LaidBack_01: if thats a website... you have to be aware that there may be some forward porting required for any in house code used for that website
<1> Yeah, we have Debian as our webservers and Gentoo for our postgres servers.
<10> LaidBack_01: if you move to newer fedora versions with new versions of php and apache httpd
<11> |Jef|, is that my buddy jef?
<4> LaidBack_01, dont expect me to comment on that choice. :) happy supporting.
<0> I just pull newer stuff out of testing/devel when I need it.
<1> yeah, have already moved from apache1.3.whatever to apache 2.0.40... just want to get to 2.0.51, that's suitable.



<11> Seg, thats not recomended
<4> LaidBack_01, fc5 has 2.2.0
<0> It took me forever to upgrade to Apache 2.
<0> I upgraded long after it was available in Debian. Thats a long time. ;P
<3> hmm, how do i install with kickstart from the cds? (i dont have a fast internet connection)
<1> che, yep, so does gentoo. It's justa matter of preference as to which razors-edge you wish to walk.
<0> Few things I do are "recommended".
<4> LaidBack_01, we are drifting offtopic though.
<4> LaidBack_01, :)
<1> yeah, thanks for the pointers folks.
<4> LaidBack_01, if you want a cutting edge desktop system and can support yourself get fedora... :)
<3> ahh, cdrom
<3> too simple :)
<12> yum --exclude={openoffice\*,kde\*} update
<12> Haha.
<1> che I'll try it someday, but right now my desktop rocks. It's a XEN based system with gentoo as host, and 3 dom0's... two gentoo one debian.
<4> LaidBack_01, support yourself demands the ability to be able to read releasenotes and faqs... use mailinglists forums and search engines.
<9> I might be picking a linux distro to host a jabber server at work; I'm thinking FC5 since we have strict security requirements to patch know vunerabilities within a certain window and I know fixes for FC come out quickly.
<12> OpenOffice.org updates can get pretty out of hand.
<4> LaidBack_01, xen ships with fedora since core 4
<1> che and when you're in a bind, and looking for an answer all the gurus would know... go to irc ;)
<0> Crap, this WD drive is failing.
<0> # 1 Extended captive Completed: read failure 90% 757 59555625
<0> I was hoping to use it for RAID1. Meh I'll probably do it anyway.
<1> the main thing thats odd for me with RH & Suse & others is the filesystem layout. Slack, Debian, Gentoo, *Bsd, etc all have a similar structure. Somehow the RH way is differnt and I'm usually quite a bit slower with a RH system. But, that aside, from what I can tell, Fedora does look like a decent linux, and probably worth a good looking over.
<13> I have just added a new drive to my system - /dev/hdb. It has been partitioned as /dev/hdb1 and formatted as ext3. I want to mount it, make sure it mounts every time the system starts, and then move an existing directory onto that drive. Where do I start?
<0> Mount it, and cp -a as root.
<13> After I do the archive copy, I can delete the old directory and rename the new one to take its place?
<14> does anyone know how to compile and install tarballs when u in FC5 (hda1) to FC3 (hda2) pleae?thanx
<0> You can't move a mount point, you have to umount it and mount it in the other place.
<0> (technically you can move a mount)
<13> Ok...let me clarify what I want.
<13> I have /trough , which contains all my samba shares. The linux box only has a 20 gig drive though. I just added a 160 gig drive. I want to get /trough onto that drive so it has more space.
<0> Mount the new drive on /mnt or whatever.
<0> cp -a /trough/* /mnt/
<15> I'm having trouble mounting this ntfs partition. i installed kmod-ntfs, and now it asks me to add "/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults,umask=0000 0 0" which it rejects as being incorrect (obviously i changed the initial bit to be correct). any ideas?
<14> does anyone know how to compile and install tarballs when u in FC5 (hda1) to FC3 (hda2) pleae?thanx
<0> Then unmount it from /mnt then mount it on /trough
<0> Then unmount trough and carefully rm -rf /trough once you're sure it works.
<13> Would it be cleaner to just copy, then delete /trough, then create a link called /trough to the mount?
<0> You'll need to add an /etc/fstab entry to get it to mount boot.
<0> Err, mount on boot.
<16> is this a web browser plugin for xine?
<16> is there*
<0> Use mozplugger.
<16> Mozplugger ok thanks
<0> Whee, I'm getting no text in X.
<17> oasiao: if you just want video playback, i'd suggest mplayerplug-in
<17> much simpler than mozplugger
<16> AntonTakk yeah i just installed it , hope to see if itll work
<16> :D
<17> oasiao: don't forget the codecs
<17> /usr/lib/win32 iirc
<16> AntonTakk damn its always a chore
<0> Except mplayer ****s.
<0> You don't really need the codecs.
<16> :p i dont know havent used it
<17> oasiao: nah, just download the codecs from the site, and un-tar them
<16> i know , i was joking , but thanks :)
<17> if you want support for non-open formats (wmp, qt, rm, etc) you need them
<0> Not really.
<17> ever tried to play a quick time file w/o them?
<3> for a vnc remote install, do i need only "vnc" to connect to the installation computer or also vncconnect?
<0> FFmpeg plays damn near anything these days.
<0> No need to filthy up your machine with win32 dlls.
<17> ffmpeg doesn't have the range of support the codecs pack does
<3> ffmpeg doesnt play quicktime/wmv
<0> Yes it does.
<17> Seg: not all of the wmv formats
<3> ok, the new wmv
<0> http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/index.php
<3> the wmv used by most of the people
<18> does fedora have a live cd?
<13> grr, what's all this about fstab-sync and HAL events? I just want to set my new drive up :(


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