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<0> LLyric: i have to do /sbin/rmmod
<1> rmmod definately exists then, otherwise your system is very bad
<1> maestros: did you su to root without doing "su -"
<0> LLyric: and i get this error - ERROR: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use
<2> then it's not in your path
<2> echo $PATH
<1> maestros: use lsmod to see who's using it, and rmmod them too
<2> as he said, do su - to create a login shell
<0> kratzers: i didn't do su -
<0> kratzers: thx
<0> LLyric: snd_intel8x0 35520 1
<0> do i do "rmmod 1" ?
<1> No, hmm
<1> what's "lsmod | grep snd_" say?
<1> You stopped system-config-soundcard, right? :)
<3> it didn't say anything about wanting other CDs for a minimal install so I guess that means I only needed CD 1?
<0> yes, i haven't re-ran it since reboot
<0> LLyric: can i private send you the output?
<1> maestros: sure, just msg, not dcc
<0> ok
<1> rudyV: you'll see. A minimal install is pretty minimal (no GUI for example)
<1> rudyV: but you can install all that later.
<3> It said that there was an exception
<1> rudyV: get the base in, secure the box, then you can do whatever you want.
<3> (The installer) said "Exception occurred"
<1> maestros: lots of stuff.
<0> yea
<1> Run this a bunch of times: lsmod | grep snd_ | cut -d' ' -f1 | xargs -t rmmod
<1> That: lists the modules, looks for snd_ ones, gets just the module name, and then rmmod them all (mostly will fail, but some will succeed, freeing up others for next time)
<2> I have a weird problem with sound in FC4. It works to play ogg and other digital files, but when I pay a CD, it acts as if it's going to play but then doesnt. Or it'll play a few seconds and then stop. And after that, it won't play digital media until a reboot...
<1> maestros: keep running that whole line, a bunch of times
<0> erg
<0> LLyric: I ran it 10 times
<1> Most of the modules uninstalled okay, the list should get shorter each time
<0> what i sent is what i got the last time.
<1> Hmm, okay. Something is using snd_intel8x0 but not saying what.
<0> LLyric: i have a confession to make.
<1> ?
<0> LLyric: I went to www.realtek.com and downloaded some codec packs and installed them. thinking that was the problem
<1> Ew :)
<4> :)
<1> Probably not the problem right now, it's a bit lower level than codecs
<0> LLyric: my xchat crashed.
<2> is there a way to use regular expressions via xchat's cli?
<1> Hmmm. Are you starting the system with X? It may be the gnome/kde sound thingies that are using it.
<0> ok, that is pissing me off
<1> maestros: Hmmm. Are you starting the system with X? It may be the gnome/kde sound thingies that are using it.
<0> do not....right click....in toolbar.
<0> the package i installed from realtek is this: realtek-linux-audiopack-3.5-6.tar.bz2
<0> I can try switching to KDE
<0> see if that fixes things.
<1> No, stop X completely
<1> Might be too late even
<0> is xfce4 supported under FC4 ?
<1> Boot into runlevel 3, and try the rmmod trick
<1> maestros: yeah
<0> i've tried stopping X ....it keeps restarting on me.
<0> i kill it.
<0> and it starts back up
<0> as pretty as it is...I honestly am starting to despise this distro...
<1> It's nothing to do with the distro, it's your understanding of it.
<0> of course.
<1> In runlevel 5, the display manager is set to restart.
<2> your display manager restarts it
<1> You need to change to runlevel 3
<2> try 'init 3'
<1> "init 3"
<0> i'm doing a yum update at the moment.
<1> you can break out of that, it'll resume properly
<0> its not downloading, its actually in the process of installing/updating
<0> [290/[591]
<3> My virus scan just finished on this computer - no viruses
<0> LLyric: are you sure i can break out of it?
<3> brb
<1> Yes
<1> maestros: the rpms are all in /var/cache/yum
<1> It won't download stuff it already has
<1> but breaking out of it is a bit annoying, use ^Z then killall yum
<0> LLyric: ok, once i'm in 'init 3', i ***ume i won't be able to chat with you. what command do you want me to run again?
<0> my xchat crashed...i am sorry
<2> so, regex's in xchat?
<1> maestros: Run this a bunch of times: lsmod | grep snd_ | cut -d' ' -f1 | xargs -t rmmod
<1> maestros: put it in a script file now, so you don't have to remember it
<0> ok
<3> How do RPM packages work?
<1> rudyV: you just install them, using rpm command.
<1> They contain files that go in certian places, and scripts that get run to install/uninstall stuff
<0> LLyric: ok, when i went back to init 5, it says, "No volume control elements and/or devices found".
<1> It's very easy
<0> LLyric: i think its all clear.
<1> maestros: you rmmod them all?
<3> LLyric: Are they similar to Windows Installer MSI scripts?
<0> LLyric: yes, i believe so
<1> rudyV: in a way, yes
<3> cool
<1> maestros: okay, now "modprobe snd_intel8x0" to load it back again
<1> Then check with system-config-soundcard
<0> LLyric: Hmmm, this looks different. Maybe the yum update?
<0> LLyric: YAHHOOO!!!!!!
<0> LLyric: :: faints ::
<1> rudyV: how's your install going?
<5> Where is the 1831 kernel-devel package?
<5> I don't believe this.
<5> It is there now.
<5> I must have been retrieving from a silly repo mirror.
<3> I got a dialog that said that an "exception occurred in anaconda"
<1> maestros: finish your yum update, then we can check out how to make it work better.
<1> What error?
<3> It was saying something about hda1
<0> LLyric: uh oh...yum update isn't resume from before. it says "No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion"
<1> Did the last update finish?
<5> I swear I opened a web browser to the site too, and updates had just the 1830 kernel and 1830 kernel-devel (UP and SMP) but.. 1831 wasn't there.
<1> AutOPSY: probably your mirror is slow
<0> LLyric: it was doing "CleanUp" when i aborted it.
<5> psh
<5> It isn't my mirror.
<1> maestros: it had downloaded them all?
<1> Oh, we should have waited.
<3> I should have copied the text of the message onto paper or into a text file - I rebooted it when it told me "you may safely reboot"
<1> I thought it was still downloading
<0> LLyric: LOL!
<5> I don't even mirror repositories.
<6> hello, i am running FC4... on my dell inspiron8600 and having great diffuclties getting my wlan to work and connect.... i am on XP currently
<1> AutOPSY: Not your personal mirror, the one that you were using
<0> LLyric: Hmm, i'm pretty sure i said it was done d/l'ing and it was in the middle of installing.
<1> maestros: okay, we shouldn't have aborted *that* bit
<7> hello
<0> LLyric: ick
<1> Um, you might have some duplicate packages etc.
<1> Just a sec
<0> LLyric: any way to recover?
<7> i want to play my flac music files with xmms, but when i try to add the files to my xmms playlist it doesnt add them
<1> There's always a way :)
<0> LLyric: no reinstalling.
<7> i've already done yum install xmms-flac but its still not working
<1> No reinstall OS, but we might just reinstall those rms.
<0> LLyric: ok, not a problem....how do i do that?
<1> You've only done one yum update?
<0> it seems that way.
<1> cd /var/cache/yum/updates-released/packages/ && rpm -Uvh --force *.rpm
<0> wow
<0> ok, will do
<0> as root, right?
<1> Yup
<1> It'll take a while to check everything, and probably come back with an error, which we'll look at
<0> LLyric: you are an amazing system admin.
<5> LLyric, why would you use --force?
<1> because those versions are probably already installed - we really just want the preinstall/postinstall scripts run cleanly
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