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<0> maestros: start with system-config-soundcard : make sure it finds your card, and uses a good device, and you can test sound
<1> zcat: seems like an extra step that's uneccesary
<0> rudyV: they're probably fine. you can let the installer check the media if you want
<0> That's an option during install
<2> LLyric: nothing seems muted.
<0> maestros: start with system-config-soundcard : make sure it finds your card, and uses a good device, and you can test sound
<3> what is that for a Error? "VFS: busy inodes on changed media."
<0> intelinsider: you forgot to unmount a drive/cd/etc before removing it
<4> Has anybody got O'Reilly's Linux Cookbook?
<0> intelinsider: it's saying that it was in the middle of doing stuff, and the drive went away
<3> i used ctrl+alt+f2 or f3... and he messaged me this a long
<3> because i stopped "netfs" in the Services Gui
<4> I just ran across the second recipe that wouldn't work.
<0> you had a nfs-mount or samba-mount, perhaps?
<2> LLyric: The following Audio device was detected: Vendor: Intel; Model: Corporation 82801FB...(ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller; Module: snd-intel8x0
<3> LLyric, no i had all services about nfs smb or so deaktiveted



<2> LLyric: when I click "Play Test Sound", i hear nothing.
<5> I'm from the US, BTW; where are you all hailing from?
<0> maestros: what's the default pcm device, and the state of the checkboxes?
<2> LLyric: how do i find that out?
<1> bbl
<0> maestros: arent' they on the system-config-soundcard dialog? (perhaps not, I have the latest updates, perhaps they added them)
<5> cool
<2> LLyric: no sir, they aren't there.
<0> I still think it's muting, of one sort or another. In any case, my /etc/modprobe.conf has the following three lines relating to sound
<0> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 | options snd-card-0 index=0 | options snd-intel8x0 index=0 | remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
<0> Sorry, four lines.
<0> Don't include the | that's just to avoid flooding channel
<4> I'm trying to set up ipforwarding. Do I need a dns server running, or is it just all through iptables?
<3> LLyric, hm thats called, i musst "umount drive" before i remove the cd
<2> LLyric: interesting, i don't have anything in my modprobe.conf related to sound.
<0> intelinsider: yup
<0> maestros: maybe if you answer "yes" to system-config-soundcard it will add them?
<5> is it possible for me to do a text-mode install of fedora via serial port?
<0> Uh, probably not.
<2> LLyric: it didn't add them.
<0> Just plug in a monitor/keyboard long enough to install. It takes about 15 mins.
<5> then I'll brb
<0> maestros: try adding them, and rebooting
<0> rudyV: you have the ISOs already?
<2> LLyric: when i run the sound test, i see two errors in my terminal console.
<0> maestros: ahh, what errors?
<0> They should be in "dmesg" output too
<5> no, just my old FC4 CD set that I mentioned earlier
<2> LLyric: amixer: Unable to find simple control 'PCM-2',0 AND amixer: Unable to find simple control 'DRC Range',0
<5> I decided to get the ISOs as a backup incase the CDs are bad
<0> maestros: try my config lines, and rebooting. that error seems to relate to a module stealing the device early.
<0> Those lines won't kill you - they're straight from my own fc4/inspiron 9300 config
<3> LLyric, thank you that explained my problem
<0> intelinsider: np
<2> LLyric: there is an inspiron 9300 config ?? why didn't FC4 install these?
<5> ...brb
<2> LLyric: Nevermind. I have been spending way too much time trying to get Linux to work for me. Linux hates my guts.
<0> maestros: there is no config for the laptop (or any laptop) in particular, sometimes you just have to tweak these things yourself.
<2> LLyric: I'll reboot and brb. Thank you.
<2> LLyric: do you use MythTV perchance?
<0> yup, but not on the inspiron
<2> LLyric: I have a mythtv server up...i'd like to be able to use my laptop as a client.
<2> LLyric: need to get the sound working first though. :)
<0> Should be no problem, I was doing that previously
<2> BRB
<5> LLyric: is it early Sunday in Australia?
<0> Nearly 4pm sunday
<5> oh I must be miscalculating the time zone differential then
<5> I am in GMT -7
<0> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ is very useful
<0> Also has a tool that allows you to pick locations, and plan a meeting that "works" for all parties
<5> yeah
<5> I'm checking my old FC4 discs that I burned a few months back
<5> I heard Australia has a warm winter and a cold summer - is that true?
<5> \
<6> hi all
<5> hi vsingh16



<6> how do you set user permissions in fedora?
<2> LLyric: still no sound.
<6> i have a diskless network here
<6> and my clients boot fedora off the server
<2> LLyric: maybe FC4 broke my speakers somehow. ;)
<6> maestros: lawl
<6> my speakers are 3 yrs old and i used to have them hooked up to a 12-inch sub
<6> they still work
<0> vsingh16: how did you get the diskless clients working? I can't get them to start the initrd properly
<6> hmmm
<5> wow I did not know you could do that :)
<6> check out the ltsp wiki
<6> http://wiki.ltsp.org/
<6> its useful
<5> I am
<6> plus the #ltsp channel on freenode.net is a great place also
<6> anyway
<6> back to my prob
<6> i'm trying to prevent all users but myself (root) from changing settings
<0> I'm well familiar with most of the tech stuff, dhcp/tftp/nfs works fine, it's just that the kernel doesn't seem to want to start the initrd script
<6> o ok
<0> vsingh16: so only export the nfs as read-only
<6> does it dload the kernel?
<0> Yes, and the initrd. It starts the kernel, does a couple of pages of stuff, then stops about when I'd expect it to start running the initrd script
<0> If I use a slack initrd, it loads that fine (no nfs-root, of course)
<6> o ic
<5> 2 of 4 discs p*** so far :)
<6> try this: service nfs start
<6> nfs might not be running
<6> i had this prob too
<6> it was like 2 weeks ago
<0> it's started, of course, man - I'm not a total noob :)
<6> o ok
<6> sry
<0> I can mount the nfs using another pc on the lan, no problem
<0> I'm thinking it might be a initrd size issue? Since the slack initrd is about 1/3 the size...
<6> no it shouldn't matter
<0> I tried p***ing the initrd_size or whatever it's called to the kernel, but that didn't hlep
<6> take that out then
<6> there might be a typo in dhcpd.conf where you have specified what kernel the client will boot into
<2> I'll try doing another yum update, then maybe reinstalling FC4, and if all fails....Ubuntu. :-D
<5> I took advantage of the "ShipIt" promo and sent away for a free copy of Ubuntu
<0> maestros: google for your error messages, there seem to be quite a few results
<2> are you kidding?
<0> no, why?
<2> LLyric: Grr...i've been googling all day. I just got those errors. I'm Googled out. Trying to get world of warcraft to work, my sound to work, i haven't gotten to mythtv yet...:: sigh ::
<0> maestros: well, the fact that I have it working perfectly should give you some hope, right? :)
<5> Disc 3 failed :( I'll wait for bittorrent
<2> LLyric: yes, a little.
<0> rudyV: if you do a smallish install, it probably won't need disk 3, or much of it anyway
<2> LLyric: i compiled Wine from scratch today, you would be proud.
<0> maestros: google for "amixer: Unable to find simple control 'PCM-2'"
<5> brb, can't remember if I did store the ISOs on my HD
<0> maestros: try (as root) "rmmod snd_intel8x0 && modprobe snd_intel8x0"
<0> maestros: the try again with system-config-soundcard
<2> LLyric: yeah, i just read those solutions....wow
<2> LLyric: i wish i caught these errors before i bothered you about them.
<2> LLyric: bash: rmmod: command not found >:(
<2> ok
<2> LLyric: i'm not insane....seems like FC4 doesn't have a lot of basic commands
<5> OK, I'll see if the minimal install works out without disc 3
<7> is it not in your path?
<7> FC4 def has rmmod as part of a base install
<8> maestros: /sbin/rmmod
<2> choisyjc: that worked.
<5> I'm at partitioning, how much of a swap do you recommend?
<7> twice RAM
<7> is a general rule
<7> if you're doing LVM, you can resize later as needed
<7> or create a swap file to add more
<0> maestros: you need to be root
<0> maestros: it's definately got rmmod
<2> LLyric: i am root
<2> LLyric: i have to do /sbin/rmmod


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