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<0> ??
<1> Benix: i suppose theoretically it might be possible, anyway who uses cds? i thought everyone used dvds these days
<2> Benix: the minimal install needs only the first cd
<3> XulChris: DVD burners are still expensive in other countries.
<0> choisyjc: so minimal means gnome is included?
<2> Benix: not even X :)
<3> XulChris: trust me, I'd love to get rid of CD iso creation for Fedora releases, but no such luck.
<0> XulChris, choisyjc thanks
<1> f13: well maybe in a couple more years
<0> although there are X and gnome packages on CD1
<3> XulChris: doubtful



<2> Benix: not enough of them to actually install gnome
<0> choisyjc: ok, thanks
<4> FC-4 is considered the latest stable release?
<5> RadSurfer: yes
<4> does someone have the CD d/l url please?
<5> i think this channel should get a topic that everybody reads :)
<6> anybody use metabar in here ? (little sidebar in konq, in KDE ?) my icons seem a little oversized, it makes it look, well... gauche.
<7> RadSurfer: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/
<4> thank you.
<7> RadSurfer: have you heard about his new site, google http://google.com/
<8> WOW! GOOGLE!
<7> RadSurfer: it is really cool they even have a Linux search
<7> RadSurfer: http://google.com/linux
<4> ok
<8> yea, 'da man' does that sort of thing, they've probs being doing it since google became popular
<1> man i cant wait for fc5
<7> XulChris: you catching the bug?
<8> KulChris: Get FC5t3 if ur that desparate :)
<1> i dont want to download a dvd only to redownload another one a month later
<9> anyone use kde here
<7> XulChris: then download 5 cds
<7> LOL
<6> lots of people use KDE.
<6> i use it.
<1> tvtwm > twm
<6> i'm sorta wondering why metabar's icons seem a bit oversized. http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=metabarwithoversizedicons3fr.png
<8> lol
<9> i just made some theme RPMS if anyone wants them. like vista bar and metatheme msstyles theme library
<8> this just turned into a "which window manager do you use?" survey
<9> http://members.shaw.ca/stylish/Linux
<7> Sin_Eastwood: are these the unsigned trojaned versions?
<9> EvilBob : just generic checkinstall rpms
<7> Sin_Eastwood: no secret payload?
<9> nope
<7> damn
<9> just the goods
<3> Sin_Eastwood: why don't you package these for Fedora Extras?



<0> i am curios about fedora. I used nearly other distro - except fedora
<9> becouse i cant write a spec file
<3> Benix: http://fedoraproject.org is a good place to start.
<9> <3> : that metatheme package rocks
<3> thats.... nice
<7> lol
<9> <3> : it runs msstyles themes
<10> hi there
<8> hi
<10> i am new to linux
<9> hi JayJay2
<10> i did have a zaurus, but got rid of it
<10> my employer requires me to get a portable device that can be encrypted
<10> i am thinking of using truecrypt on a linux OS
<3> Sin_Eastwood: I think you've mistaken me for somebody who cares
<9> <3> : ok
<10> is that a good idea? if so what linux OS and portable device should I get?
<0> f13: i am just downloading it via torrent
<7> f13: you can't fake it, we know you care deep down inside
<3> EvilBob: riiiight. No wait, thats heartburn
<7> lol
<7> sorry my error
<7> I knew you were feeling something
<1> hmmm Nazghul looks pretty cool
<10> so is it not a good idea?
<1> er
<8> what's nazghul?
<11> What file do I edit if I want to p*** arguments to my WM at startup?
<0> is yum as far and good developed as apt?
<1> Tinned_Tuna: http://myweb.cableone.net/gmcnutt/nazghul.html
<8> ooo
<8> i wonder...
<1> Benix: yum + yum-utils is
<8> can i run it from the terminal over a telnet connectiong?
<12> How do I get the Symbols for the Eclipse IDE debugger?
<7> Benix: does not matter apt-rpm is not being developed
<0> XulChris: nice
<7> Benix: yum is under active development
<0> EvilBob: Well, I know comparing rpm repos to deb-repos is difficult but I know that the apt for debs is very high developed
<0> good, so there is an efficient way to do upgrades ;)
<7> heh
<7> I dunno if I would go that far yet


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