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<0> airmikey: if the device isnt listed in /proc/scsi/scsi that pretty much means the the usb-storage driver isnt getting loaded.. and the kernel doesnt recognize the device as a storage device
<1> |-BigBoss u here still?
<2> puneet_batura: no, early fc4 kernels didn't handle ups thumb drives to well
<0> puneet_batura: can you stfu?
<2> s/ups/usb
<3> |Jef|, didnt get u..
<0> airmikey: i suggest getting all the updates installed... rebooting into the latest update kernel.... and trying again
<4> ok
<0> airmikey: hopefully with the device plugged in... you should see it listed in the output of cat /proc/scsi/scsi
<3> |Jef|, wont mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/pendrive works in this case...
<5> Could someone help me installing yum?
<0> airmikey: from there.. you have ways to work around brokenness at the gnome level
<0> airmikey: but if the kernel doesnt see it... you cant do much about it
<0> puneet_batura: IF THE KERNEL DOES NOT SEE IT YOU CAN NOT FRELLING MOUNT IT
<3> |Jef| thanks buddy...
<0> airmikey: after updates and a reboot run uname -r you should be running kernel version 2.6.15-1.1831_FC4



<6> can he force the kernel to see it? i.e. forcibly patch eyeballs onto it?
<3> |Jef|, how can i enable hot plugin on my linux box so that whenever i insert usb drive it automatically mounts it?
<0> airmikey: after all the updates are installed and you have the latest kernel
<4> |jef|: thx for the help dude...ok i will
<0> airmikey: you are using the kernel that comes on the fc4 isos right now?
<4> yes ...im getting updates now
<3> how can i enable hot plugin on my linux box so that whenever i insert usb drive it automatically mounts it?
<5> do i have to be a super user to install yum?
<2> eodcho1: it should already be installed
<2> eodcho1: but you do have to have root prive to use it to install or update or remove
<5> Anton: It was a fresh install
<5> how could i open it?
<2> eodcho1: su - root
<2> enter root's p***word
<2> and then yum........
<5> ok
<5> ok its there, how do i open it as a gui?
<7> yum install yumex
<2> you have to install yumex if you want a gui
<7> Morning lxo
<5> i gotcha
<5> thank you
<5> ok, i got logged in as root now it says missing destination file operand after "yumex"
<7> eodcho1: cat /etc/fedora-release
<8> AntonTakk, there are several options for a yum gui but yes yumex is the best choice
<7> eodcho1: what does it say?
<8> good morning StillBob how ya bee?
<7> f_newton: tired, I need an after church nap
<8> oh... you need an after church nap
<8> I need to find a good church to go to... when my gf dumped me I was asked not to come to church
<8> nothing like the baptist eh?
<7> lol
<5> its says cat/etc/fedora-release: no such file or directory
<9> cat /etc/xxxxx
<9> cat is the command
<8> the really sad part is I miss the gf a lot more then I miss the church
<9> it needs a whitespace before the filename :)
<7> eodcho1: spaces and thier placement are important
<5> ok it says fedora core release 4.92 (pre-fc5)
<7> eodcho1: so you are running the test and clearly don't know why
<7> eodcho1: the first thing you need to do is run "yum update"
<5> ok do i do that on the command line?
<5> stillbob:thank you for your help
<7> eodcho1: yes
<5> ok its updating
<7> eodcho1: you are a new Linux user?
<5> no, new to fedora, have been using mepis for the past year
<7> eodcho1: IC
<5> Stillbob: it says added 40 new packages deleted 40 old
<5> no package marked for update/deletion
<7> eodcho1: typically test releases are only for people with enough experience to provide feedback to the devs through Bugzilla
<7> eodcho1: I would suggest installing FC4 at this time
<5> Yea, I just wanted to test it out.
<5> heard great things about it
<7> eodcho1: you "should" be able to upgrade from FC4 to FC5 when it comes out
<7> eodcho1: the tests are not normally considered "usable"
<5> Our local Lug told me that test 3 was damn near the final product minus the new gnome
<0> eodcho1: your local lug mislead you
<7> eodcho1: and there is not an upgrade target from the tests to te final release



<5> well so be it, i have test 3 on my pcnow
<5> make the best of it i guess
<7> morning |Jef|
<0> eodcho1: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing
<3> morning StillBob...
<10> where can i ger rar or unrar rpm?
<10> get
<7> lion_king: man yum
<5> thank for your help:stillbob, I got it figured out...
<7> puneet_batura: yes it is finally afternoon here actually
<5> can you use apt-get in fedora?
<6> you know on FedoraFaq, the maintainer offers a yum configuration, how, without installing it can i find out where the repos are
<3> oh..ok ..lol
<6> eodchol: Yes, but it's not recommended
<7> eodcho1: apt-rpm is a dead project
<6> its not dead!
<6> it just smells that way...
<7> Tinned_Tuna: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/Apt
<5> apt-works great in many distros and for me seem sot be much more reliable than synaptic or any other gui package manager
<7> Tinned_Tuna: it goes beyond recommendations
<6> apt is for debian, as far as i understand it
<10> thanks StillBob
<7> eodcho1: apt is great on dpkg based distros, fedora is not
<7> eodcho1: yum is the automagic package managment tool that is suggested
<3> thats correct...
<7> eodcho1: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum
<7> eodcho1: you can read about most of the yum features there
<7> eodcho1: in the test you should have pirut that will be a GUI updater
<7> eodcho1: it is a yum frontend, I have not used it
<6> i heard Yumex was good...
<6> i've installed it, but always prefer the command line (i just forget that i installed it :/)
<7> Tinned_Tuna: it is quite good now, in older versions...not so much
<5> Will fedora play restricted formats? mps/wma/divx/.avi etc?
<6> yea...
<7> eodcho1: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems
<6> eodchol: you can, but it takes some coaxing
<6> thankfully, www.fedorafaq.com made it good and easy :)
<5> i will take a look thank you
<7> eodcho1: running the test it will take a fair amount of work
<6> oops
<6> www.fedorafaq.org
<7> eodcho1: few of the third party repos that we get forbidden items from track the test releases
<11> or if someone can point me in the right direction for the docs it would be apprciated/..Thanks
<7> bzposse: what exactly are you trying to do?
<12> bzposse, i dont think you deleted your /boot mount, but check /etc/grub.conf and /boot/grub/menu.lst
<10> how to play .img file with mplayer?
<2> lion_king: first, figure out what type of file it really is
<10> dvd img file
<6> ahhh
<2> ok, it's a dvd
<7> Night honeyzzz
<2> first you'd have to loop mount it
<6> burn it to a DVD, then use a DVD player that supports copied disks?
<3> bzposse, check it for reinstalling grub... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lug_noida/message/3
<2> then point mplayer at it
<3> for dual booting machine...
<13> (back later :) )
<6> does any one know where the MPlayer-plugin package is stored at?
<10> can you help me how to mount that ?
<14> is it possible to use XGL and Compiz with fedora?
<2> Tinned_Tuna: mplayerplug-in
<11> me/ /etc/grub.conf is a link to /boot/grub/grub.conf hence I am puzzled why the OS still loaded after deleting /boot directory
<6> well yes, but im trying to write a script that won't put my yum configuration at risk
<7> Pedrolito: possible, yes, practical? no
<2> Tinned_Tuna: scuse me?
<14> StillBob, why is it not practical?
<6> hence im not using fedorafaq's yum config, due to the 3rd party repos
<7> Pedrolito: as I understand it, xgl is a new xserver
<2> Tinned_Tuna: Livna is a save repo to use
<6> you know, a one-shot enable MP3s, movies, pdf and flash
<2> s/save/safe
<3> bzposee, i think its just the alias that u deleted..
<15> Question...is Dia drawing software available via RPM?


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