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<0> Tinned_Tuna: a lot of turorials in google, and even more examples in all .src.rpms
<1> IClown: then contact the page owner about adding it
<2> thank you
<3> cool :)
<1> Tinned_Tuna: that is waht I was talking about yes
<3> awesome
<3> i might try my hand at that some day...
<4> um, is there any way to reset a PS/2 mouse from the console? because I have a KVM switch and occasionally when I switch it loses synchronization
<1> Tinned_Tuna: I bet you could find someone in the Extras project to help you learn
<3> not this day, however... i have too much coursework :-s
<5> misha-strong, service gpm restart
<3> StillBob: Yea, I'll finish my work, and then go hunting :)
<1> misha-strong: get a better KVM
<4> thx, will try noe
<6> hi all..



<4> *now
<1> Hi puneet_batura
<6> hi bob... :))
<1> puneet_batura: what are you doing up so late?
<1> hehehe
<6> StillBob: just wanna see u guys.... ;))
<1> puneet_batura: 05:12 here, I should sleep
<6> StillBob: sure... have a great sleep....;))
<6> che, nice to see u too
<1> I have tried several times, I think I might shower and give up trying
<6> StillBob, it happens...lol
<4> * tuna is way too fishy *
<2> lol
<3> lol
<1> Tinned_Tuna: there are many ways to help out with Extras other than packaging BTW
<2> how else?
<1> Tinned_Tuna: it might be that reviewing packages is more your style
<1> Tinned_Tuna: that might also be a great way to learn about packaging with out actually doing it
<3> coll
<3> *cool
<6> StillBob, i agree ....
<1> Tinned_Tuna: then as your knowledge and schedule change you can branch out
<5> I don't understand why IRC users correct words that aren't important for a particular situation.
<1> AutOPSY: just to make sure we are understood sometimes
<5> I guess.
<1> AutOPSY: How are you this morning?
<3> StillBob, I'll look into it when i have more time, I have to get some course work for electronics and Business Studies out of the way first :s
<5> Just sitting around..
<7> hi, i want to install a bluetooth development env on FC4, but yum search *blue* does not reveal any libs; anyone an idea how come/what I should do?
<1> Tinned_Tuna: I understand that
<5> Watching the news actually.
<3> :)
<1> eFfeM: yum search blue
<1> eFfeM: wild cards must be excaped when used \*blue\* for example
<5> I am pretty sure with yum you need to use \*
<1> eFfeM: if you do not excape the wildcard bash gets in the way
<7> ah ok, tnx
<8> hi
<8> how can I remove rhn channel ?
<7> StillBob, thanks alot, that did it
<1> eFfeM: have you read the http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum ?
<5> e-lor, rpm -e rhn-applet will remove the applet in Fedora Core.
<8> and ?
<1> e-lor: I suggest "yum remove up2date"
<9> Hi
<1> e-lor: that way up2date leaves and takes it's little anoying friends with it
<6> hi..
<1> Howdy rudyV
<4> wow if i could program c++ i could really add some things to yum O_o
<5> StillBob, last time I checked up2date's deps were a very long list, and it would remove some things you don't want to remove.
<4> the download eta is really bad
<1> misha-strong: yum is written in python
<4> oh okay lol, if I could program python then
<1> AutOPSY: nope, only 4 packages depend on yum
<9> I'm getting an error while trying to install FC4: "Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/hda2 - Device or resource busy..."
<1> errrr
<7> StillBob, yeah, read that, but it is a while ago and I seem to have forgotten some of the details, will reread
<1> AutOPSY: nope, only 4 packages depend on up2date
<5> Ok.
<1> AutOPSY: less if you do not have a GUI installed



<5> Well, it must have been broken when I tried it, otherwise I wouldn't suggest rpm -e rhn-applet to people.
<1> AutOPSY: could be, not sure how "bad" it was in older versions anymore
<5> Right, now it says firstboot, up2date-gnome and up2date, which seems sane.
<1> AutOPSY: I did not start removing it until FC4 with is being FUBAR
<1> s/is/it
<5> I don't know specifically what I remember, but yum remove up2date used to try to gut the system.
<5> Seriously.
<5> Ok. yum remove up2date, cool.
<3> how would yum remove yum fare? lol
<3> just out of curiosity...
<5> It would remove it of course.
<1> Tinned_Tuna: better than yum remove rpm
<3> hehe
<9> Why is the installer failing just before install with the error "Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/hda2 - Device or resource busy..." (/dev/hda2 is my swap partition)?
<1> "don't try this at home we are insane"
<3> lol
<1> rudyV: delete or reformat that partition
<5> rudyV, you could try partitioning the disk by hand if you absolutely cannot avoid that.
<9> So it's just a corrupt swap partition?
<2> i'm gonna get off to bed
<1> rudyV: could very well be, not sure if currupt is the right word
<2> StillBob thank you very much for your help
<1> IClown: Good luck
<1> IClown: no problem, glad it worked out
<2> should I update to fc 5 when released?
<9> Should I try removing the Linux partitions with PartitionMagic?
<2> or should fc 4 be ok for a while?
<1> IClown: I would wait about 1 week after release
<3> ok, now im annoyed... the only application with the ability on Mac OS X to create/edit open document files is OpenOffice.org2 which does not play nice with the osx aqua theme and needs X windows to be installed :(
<2> ok
<2> thank you again
<2> g'night
<1> IClown: good nightr
<3> g'nite
<1> my family will be waking up soon, then the screaming will start as they get ready to go to church
<10> hi,before i could see my ntfs partiitions but yesterday i installed the vmware player and noe they are unreachable,have any ideas???
<3> heh
<1> preho: not related
<3> i thought NTFS was not write supported under FC4...
<1> preho: somethign else was the cause I am sure
<3> although u could read them...
<1> Tinned_Tuna: he said "see"
<1> Tinned_Tuna: what ever that means
<3> well im just guessing here...
<10> the /etc/fstab is same
<3> lol
<1> Tinned_Tuna: I personallt can not see any of my partitions, I wonder if I should open my harddrives....
<5> preho, please, come informed. VMware isn't a "player" of any kind.
<10> ???ok i cant reach them sorry for my english
<1> preho: did you update your kernel? did you remember to update your kernel-modules?
<3> open you hard drive??
<3> as in with a screw driver?
<10> no the kernel is same
<1> AutOPSY: there is a "VMware PLayer"
<10> yes there is
<1> AutOPSY: stripped down "workstation"
<5> I don't know why they would call it a player.
<9> OK, I've deleted the Linux ext3 and swap partitions, I'm trying this again
<1> preho: I would check that your ntfs kernel-modules are loading
<11> rudyV: still having problems?
<1> preho: I don't run windows so I have no details on this
<6> rudyV, details please...
<1> AutOPSY: it is called a player because it can only be used to run preconfigured Virtual Machines
<5> preho, I would begin checking: fdisk -l output, lsmod output, and.. and.. that's it.
<11> please, come informed :)
<10> ok i'll try it
<5> You stated the fstab is the same, unless you have made partitions or moved a partition, they should still be correct.
<1> puneet_batura: the installer was having trouble dealing with some existing Linux partitions on this disk
<9> The Fedora installer says: "Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/hda2 - Device or resource busy..." (/dev/hda2 was my swap partition)
<6> oh ok
<5> rudyV, you are positive that is a swap partition?
<6> so u have a dual booting machine..
<6> go for linux rescue


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